Cannonpointer » 19 Nov 2023, 2:31 am » wrote: ↑
You seem to be suggesting that humans are not even human at all except in community - that without a community we are simply creatures of the wild, incapable of writing poetry or pop songs; that without fellows and factories and bureaucracies, we would have no automobiles or indoor plumbing or drywall or protection from predation. You appear to believe that human life is not about survival of the fittest, but rather, it is about survival of the tribe. You present as being under the impression that I have not only rights in this society, but duties to it; and that I have some mythical interest in the health and wellbeing of those with whom I share a community and a country.
I'll bet you are one of those commie types who thinks that men should swim alongside the over-crowded life raft, rather than throwing a woman or a child overboard and taking THEIR spot - as we libertarians preach and believe. Survival of the fittest, babe - and that pregnant woman just wasn't strong enough to keep her seat. I did everything all by myself and I owe nobody anything. I built that. I have rights, but no responsibilities except not to initiate violence. And the Invisible Hand will dispense perfect justice forever and ever amen.
Right, libertarians? TELL HER! She's a damned commie.

No, I just point out that people somehow believe that hardship and bad luck won't happen to them. I met a young man in the 90's, who didn't have health insurance for his family with young children, even though he could afford it. He was very proud of the fact that he had used the money for a down payment on a rental property. He said he was willing to take the chance because he knew that if something happened that they would be taken care of in the emergency room.
I have no problem with Libertarians, but they are the first ones to apply for "safety net" programs when faced with adversity. At least the ones I've met.
I was invited to a local church to see a visiting evangelist. One of the members asked about the movement to not pay taxes because they didn't agree with how the money was being spent. He asked her if she had driven to church on a paved road, and told her that unless she was willing to go up into the mountains and live off grid, then she should pay her taxes.
My daughter is a Director of a non profit that deals with homeless people. They go out to find all the mentally ill, brain damaged, and disabled veterans living in storm drains, tents, cars, and under overpasses. Sometimes their families are living with them. Life does not go smoothly for everyone.