A more realistic measure of 'economy' Post #141271 • Liberal Forum

FOS » 01 Dec 2022, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑
01 Dec 2022, 10:13 am
Sorry.. but the way most of you people talk about the economy is complete rubbish. I am quite tired of all debates over whether we are in a 'recession' and nonsense like that. All your numbers and charts and graphs are irrelevant and fake and stupid.

Here's the bottom line; Humans are life forms. In order for us to 'break even' ...everyone needs to have an average of slightly more than one child (slightly more to account for untimely death)...or slightly more than 2 per couple

and they need to have a decent quality of life.

That means

1) a single income household (somebody has to raise, cook,clean, change diapers, etc)

2) their own house

3) a decent education

4) a decently safe neighborhood...being able to actually play in the backyard without getting abducted raped and killed

5) the ability to retire and survive as some point (70 or so)

And you know...whatever else is a basic necessity.

That needs to be the AVERAGE. Maybe there is wealth inequality. Say 50% of the people cannot afford this. Then the other 50% need to be able to have 4 children...and they also would need to actually do it...since a bunch of rich infertile people will still cause population decline.

Such a 50/50 division would be cause for serious concern, however...since the survivors would be increasingly inbred and the people who failed to reproduce may have been poor for reasons other than being useless, and their heritable traits are being lost to the gene pool.

Now since we survive, it is clear that EVERY European society in history was able to manage this. You might think the English of the 12th century were desperately poor, but they could manage the above stipulations...and even better...since their population grew

what about the usa? What % of our housholds can afford 2 children with a decent quality of life?

I'm sorry...but just my personal experience of the cost of raising children decently and living in a decent area...I can't help but feel like less than 10% of thr people can even afford it. Me and my gf are bothe technically in the 1%, and we would struggle to afford such a thing. I can't get health insurance...and she only just recently paid off student loans.

I would say it's far more than 50% that can't afford it. They have kids anyway, though they can't afford to support them adequately. Thus, the government writes them checks.

America, generally speaking, has been founded on the idea that everyone should have equal opportunity to attain their own wealth. This is a beautiful theory, but hardly crosses over to application. As soon as we liberated ourselves from Britain, we used exploitation, not freedom for all, as a means to accumulate wealth. It hasn't changed. Therefore, there will always be more than 50% who left out to dry.

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...