not disagreeing with you, just discussing the one drawnback to having them. It was always a rare occasion with a well tuned bike. But let those points get out of gap or a dirty carb, ouch.Skans » 13 Feb 2023, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ I always used the kickstarter on my CB550 - it would start right up no problem. It was so much more fun to kickstart a motorcycle than to press a button to get it to start. It had some kind of ratcheting mechanism so that it wouldn't kick back on you. I think that was more of a problem on 2-strokes.