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12 Jul 2024 6:58 pm
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jerrab » 12 Jul 2024, 2:20 pm » wrote: I looked to see which is true, the dead are asleep until judgement day or people go to heaven or hell at death. neither is true. there will be a judgement but the dead have not slept until judgement day. the workers in the vineyard is the  explanation that Christ gives, and it shows that no one stops working until the final day,

I will go one step further..... churches don't really care who goes to heaven. otherwise they would implore people to be more generous and the amount of hungry people reflect that churches are not concerned enough to warn the people to be more generous and caring. the  catholic church allows, even encourages animal torture with bullfighting and that is something Christ did not like and would hate to see bulls tormented to death for the enjoyment of evil people.

---------------------------Fiesta de San Fermín, festival held annually in Pamplona, Spain, beginning at noon on July 6 and ending at midnight on July 14, honouring the city's first bishop and patron saint, Saint Fermín. The festival was originally observed on Saint Fermín's feast day, September 25, but in 1592 the celebration was moved to July.--------------------

------------------------The best-known part of the festival is the running of the bulls, or the encierro. From July 7 to July 14 the bulls to be used in the daily bullfights are run through the streets of the town to the bullring. Both locals and tourists participate in the event, made famous in Ernest Hemingway’s 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises. The bullfight, or corrida, is held every afternoon. In addition to the secular events, the Procession of Saint Fermín, a religious celebration, takes place the morning of July 7. Other events associated with the fiesta include the comparsa, a parade featuring large puppets carried by the marchers, as well as numerous parties and spontaneous gatherings. The festival ends on July 14 with the singing of “Pobre de Mi” (“Old Poor Me”).-------------------

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fiesta ... 0to%20July.
being dead and asleep are one in the same...AFAIC...
 
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