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Cannonpointer » 22 Sep 2024, 8:48 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Sep 2024, 8:48 pm

Yes, they fly far better than we do. ON EARTH.

In what was does this suggest they are based lightyears from the Earth?

I mean, where have we seen them? To my knowledge, we have only ever seen them ON EARTH. There is no evidence they are on Pluto. In fact, there is evidence to the contrary. Ditto Neptune. 

How does their superior understanding of physics suggest they are from a world other than the only one on which we encounter them.?

I mean, do you understand everything about a porpoise? A spider? A manta ray? Can we replicate what they do with out technology? We cannot. But this doesn't mean they're from some other galaxy. They're from Earth. And how do we know this? We know this because we have only ever encountered them on Earth. 

Just like the "aliens."

Octopus DNA is off the track too. One odd little fellow.

btw
It is surmised that space itself is expanding so fast that lightspeed travel won't get us much farther than the nearest stars.
Lightspeed is the top limit. Imagine an ant running along a rubber band and you stretch the rubber band while he is moving.
From his prespective, he can still be traveling top speed but the goal is advancing away too.

The nearly incomprehensible concept is that from his origin point it would seem his velocity would have to be greater than lightspeed,
 but it is not. The space has expanded, not his speed.

So, to embrace this concept, one has to accept wormholes or something for interstellar or (even more so) intergalactic travel.
The observable universe is unfathomably huge much less the rest of it that we have no idea about.
And it is always expanding (adding conflicts to the theoretical mix about time and space).

So...
If there are aliens, maybe they are "accidental tourists".
Did a wormhole pop them into our neighborhood?
Is there any such thing as "control" over wormhole entry/exit points?
Are their species so fragile they cannot reveal themselves for fear of extinction?
  (maybe a generation to them is a thousand years...)