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Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2024, 12:48 pm » wrote: I am pro-Trump. I want him to win. And I think he is a terrible businessman. And if you were the businessman you CLAIM to have been, you should also consider him a **** business man. 

But then, perhaps you were the same type of fellow as Trump, just not as successful because you were not loaned hundreds of millions by your dad?

Trump lies, cheats and steals. He stiffs small business people. He hires contractors who are delighted to work with the great Donald J. Milhouse Trump, and he pays them pennies on the promised dollar. That's a **** business man - a fellow whose DISHONESTY is key - not his **** "genius." His only genius is self-promotion - and at THAT, he certainly excels.

He is at heart a **** bag man - the kind of guy who slips out the back door with all of the money and as many of the supplies as he can carry, right before the creditors show up. Four bankruptcies - not one of them cost him a penny, but his creditors lost their shirts. 

If you consider that good business, that reflects badly on your judgment and your character. A GOOD businessman makes wealth for his investors - not ruin. A GOOD businessman has the friendship of his partners - not the enmity.
First of all, isn't it a tad disingenuous to claim you are pro-Trump now, after arguing against voting for him just a few weeks ago?  Didn't you state with all clarity that you intended to waste your vote on a 3rd party candidate because you had some idiotic reason for despising Trump?

So you think he's a terrible businessman, huh?
How many other businessmen do you know that was able to turn a million-dollar business into a multi-BILLION dollar international organization, then star in a hit TV series for years, and ultimately beat out over a dozen life-long politicians to become President, run as an incumbent and secure more votes than any other Republican in history despite being cheated out of victory, and now take the lead in the polls for a second term as President?

As far as your concern for people he may have fired in the past, your ignorance regarding business ownership is quite apparent.  I've owned or been a partner in 5 businesses in the last 50 years and probably fired 40 or 50 people in that time.  I can't think of a single one of them who didn't make derogatory comments about me or my businesses after I fired them.  But a fool like you takes the word of a disgruntled and likely incompetent employee and believe his animosity toward Trump is both justified and truthful, without obtaining Trump's specific reasons for a single worker he's fired.  When you have thousands of employees, there will always be workers who prove that they don't deserve the job you gave them.
Always.  

And if you don't like the banking laws that allow a business owner to file for bankruptcy then go find a representative in Congress that will change them.  Those laws are vital to the economy of the country, and there is no reason that Trump shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of them.  Banks and other businesses that have worked with him in the past are not children.  If they entered into a contract or a loan agreement with him and gave him favorable terms to secure his business, then it's on them to be more careful not to enter into such a risky, one-sided deal.  Trump has NEVER filed for personal bankruptcy, and most of his businesses over the past 50 years have been great for the banks that loaned him money and the hundreds of businesses that he's dealt with in that time.

You know NOTHING about the terms or the contracts or the people you claim he cheated or stole from, not surprising when it's coming from someone who flips his opinion on his vote more often than a short-order cook flipping pancakes.  Who here would be surprised to see you flip back again over the next month if the political wind changes?   
 
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