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29 Dec 2021 6:33 pm
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LibDave » 29 Dec 2021, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑ First, UL certification is NOT required.  When someone or some company seeks to insure a product against injury liability (unfortunately our society is quite litigious) many insurance companies require it pass UL certification.  Although there are many such competing certification laboratories.  In fact UL is nothing more than a group of independent laboratories who each specialize in the testing of various consumer products who operate and are advertised under the name UL.  Hence the term United Laboratories.  Companies are free to find different insurance and many forego insurance and the associated certifications it would require.  Not all insurers require certification though the costs are normally higher.  Major auto producers do just that.  They perform their own testing and handle their own litigation.  It's up to all parties involved what the services of each is worth and whether to enter into a contract at all.

As for the stock market, stock is just the shared ownership of a company.  Owning a portion of the stock allows you to share in any profits (or losses it incurs).  The company enters into agreements (as I described) which may or may not result in profits.  The company may rent out their capital equipment to skilled workers who then produce goods for market.  Free and fair contracts where all are benefited.  They may also desired to instead pay wages to these same workers and keep the product themselves.  If they sell the product for more than they agreed to pay in wages good for them.  Whatever agreements they come to as long as it is free of undue coercion everyone involved must believe they benefit.

As a stockholder I have entered into a different agreement in which I exchange my wealth for a share of the proceeds generated by the company resulting from whatever contracts the company decides to enter into in exchange for what the property owned by the company brings to the table.
Let me just put this idea to you, for your consideration.

We live in the golden age of capitalism. That is inarguable - wall street has never been richer, never been more powerful, never been more influential. We have seen record years for a record number of years. 

And we ALL believe in free markets - especially the capitalists. Right?

Right?

Yet regulations have never been more numerous and more stifling and expensive to startups - even though the capitalists have never been stronger. 
 
That doesn't strike you as incongruous?
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