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LibDave » 29 Dec 2021, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2021, 9:18 pm

And yes I am aware of what you are saying in regards to government interference and corruption. Corporate payoffs and partnerships with the FDA and other regulatory agencies. But this isn't an aspect or the fault of capitalism. The corruption seen in socialist countries is FAR worse. Putin doesn't even have to hide his corruption. The oligarch's openly ally with the government. We have laws and in cases where there is improper alliance with regulatory agencies they should be strung up and spend the rest of their life in Oklahoma's Supermax. This is not capitalism it is just a fact of human nature. When people have more power and as a result more access to corrupt bureaucrats they will often commit crimes. At least they're crimes unlike Communist Russia and Fascist Germany.

Putin has put a **** of a lot more oligarchs in jail than any presidents in the last century have put wall street tycoons in jail. Even the legendary teapot dome scandal of the 20s resulted in only one incarceration of 6 months duration. I defy you to name ONE CROOKED RAT who has ever even been THREATENED with a supermax - hell, with a country club. 

No, sir. Super maxes are for the little people - not for the capitalists. They OWN the super maxes. The super maxes are there to enforce their hegemony. 

But let us deal with the meat, not with the side dish. 

Again, you are attempting to relegate a primary feature of capitalism - the corruption and takeover of regulatory agencies to effect monopoly powers - to a mere foible of a few capitalists. But in truth, capitalism is all about government enforced monopolies - and I have given you plenty of examples to dispute, if you can do so.

Explain to us, for example, how the current bullying to get vaxed, using government muscle to force people to take wall street's products, is a mere foible. Or explain how the takeover of the vape market using the government gun is not a feature of capitalism, but a mere foible. Or how preventing new entrants into the market place in the solar pane industry is not a feature, but merely a foible, of capitalism. Or how nullifying the democratic power of governments through trade treaties is not a threat to national sovereignty and an attempt to overthrow/overtake the government from within.