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AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote: It isn't in the Constitution.

Then it's not the "fourth branch" of the government. New branches of government require a Constitutional Amendment. Google it.

AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote:The Federal Reserve Board of Governors requires no government approiprattions, but -- for all intensive purposes -- it works with the government on terms of monetary policy.

WITH? Not AS, but WITH? Okay. So does my cable monopoly. Which branch of government is THAT privately held corporation in?

AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote:While that may be true, why does the Congress need to oversee an entity, by law, if said entity is not a part of the Government?

Because the private entity has been granted a franchise by government - a monopoly, which requires oversight.

AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote: You are aware that an agency does not have to be under a specific branch of government to be part of the government, correct?

Incorrect. Neither of us is aware of that, though one of us seems misinformed on the issue.

AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote:How do you explain the SEC, CFTC, FTC, and may others. It's really no different from the Federal Reserve.

The SEC is part of the executive, as is the FTC. I am not familiar with the CFT.

I think your confusion is that government can give certain powers to corporations - for example, a department store can collect taxes on behalf of government. But that does not make department stores government agencies as part of a secret or nonexistent branch of government.

We have three branches of government, and 57 states. I think you have those numbers mixed up.

AmazonTania » 18 Feb 2014 6:20 pm » wrote: 5. How exactly does your source debunk me when it even supports what I've said all along. "Independent within the government?" Check the second to last sentence.

The one where it calls **** on that position?

We’d suggest the phrase “independent within the government” is much too ambiguous and has the effect of conveying great power while avoiding responsibility.

THAT ONE? Is that the part of my link that buttresses your position?