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Cannonpointer » 20 minutes ago » wrote: Even a monkey can hurt you, if he has a monkey wrench. 

The U.S. is ABSOLUTELY a colonial power. It has 32 vassals in Europe alone. It has a record of involving itself in disastrous and retarded conflicts. Avoiding a knock-down, drag-out with a retard does not make one a coward or a vasal. I never suggested that Trump could make Putin accept any redline-crossing ****. I merely said that Trump can make Putin an offer he doesn't refuse. Indeed, I EXPRESSLY stated that Trump will end the war on conditions favorable to Putin. 

Putin doesn't run on pride - he runs on intelligence and cunning. All Trump has to do, if he wants to sway Vlad this way or that, is convince Vlad that there is more pain for Russia in this course of action than there is in that course of action.

Let me put it to you this way: The deep state forced Putin into this war. Since they made him fight a war he did not want to fight, are YOU saying that makes Putin our bitch? They DID force his hand, did they not? And if Nigbama's deep state can force Putin's hand, without Putin being our bitch, what makes you suppose that Trump cannot? And in the scenario that I describe, Putin gets what he wants: an end to the hostilities on terms that he can live with. That is PRECISELY Putin's victory condition.
Hmmm.  Okay.

Great dissertation.  I agree with most of it...the sentiment I mean.
You and I are both admirers of Vlad.  I respect you.

But your plan or scenario, presupposes no interference by the Empire.
The problem.....Putin no longer trusts anything from DISEASED WASH DC.
All liars...and liars WILL BE in Trumps cabinet. 
 
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