Where do you think everyone from California, Oregon the Washington coast will flock to when they run out of drugs and food? They will be ambushing anyone with 4 good wheels and gasoline. Good luck with that.walkingstick » 07 Dec 2024, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑ in the pacific northwest there are many wilderness doomsday retreats. only way in is by hiking and pack horse. rugged areas with no landing spots for helicopters. lots of deer, fish, good soil, water and firewood. what great places.