Liberal Forum

bigsky » 16 May 2014 10:42 am » wrote:
i will say that to have an economic system that has a federal reserve, an irs, a stock market, a progressive tax system and a few mega rich mother **** influencing our legislative process...we will never be as free as we should be. so now we have politicians telling their constituents that their billionaire is better than our billionaire and even though it is in the ten commandments that unions should be able to influence politics...corporations cant...dude i am wanting to end the lies told by politicians and the enabling that politicians do to get votes...the way to do this is to get rid of all this government funded crap and KEEP IT SIMPLE...and that my friend is free enterprise

I don't disagree with you. Yes the koch brothers are trying to influence elections. The other side of the coin is so are Buffett and Soros. And all of them do it for the benefit of their companies. Where the problem is most don't want to admit that the billionaires on their side are doing for their own purpose, not altuistic reasons. So the cycle continues.

On the other hand in order to reverse citizen's united, (the part of the conversation you joined at) we would have to remove the freedom of association, liberties, from all these different groups of people. Not sure I support doing just that. A basic understanding of what citizen's united actually did is needed as well. It does not allow corporations, unions, non profit corporations, etc to pour unlimited amounts into campaigns. It does not allow foreign money to be used. It does not allow direct contributions from unions or corporations. It simply addresses the electonic electioneering aspect. I blame the President for the misconceptions and the left, all stemming from his SOTU address where he "lied" about what that decision does. So we get these progressive posters spewing garbage that is not true.