Liberal Forum

greatnpowerfuloz » 21 May 2014 12:03 pm » wrote:
Right here, you show your ignorance. An employee is not a citizen while that employee is under the control of any corporation that is not a non-profit or government institution. A corporation is not a citizen - its a corporation where employees are contracted to perform certain functions within the corporation. A union is not a citizen - it's an organization which exists for the sole purpose of advocating for its members and supporting them in their relationships with their employers.

You have this crazy notion that democracy and individual rights operate in an environment where the Constitutional rights of citizens are not recognized. They don't of course but it appears there is no dissuading you from your errant perceptions that employees enjoy the same rights in the workplace that they enjoy as citizens outside of the workplace.

If you believe that to be so, maybe you need to start a campaign to insist that corporations bestow the same rights to their employees that the Constitution bestows on them as citizens.

This discussion, Citizen's united, etc are not about employees. WHy are you reframing? It is it ignorance? It is a low IQ? Lack of comprehension skills? I wasn't even discussing employees because they are not part of the equation in regards to Citizen's United.

So when you figure this out, start a thread on the topic you wish to discuss and we will see where that takes us.

PS. Never said a corporation is a citizen. I did say that way back in the 50's the USSC ruled that people who freely form an association, like a union, corporatioin, or a non profit do not forfeit their first amendment rights to speak as a group. The people who form and comprise that union or corporation ARE citiznes and you wish to supporess their rights. I will NEVER agree with you on that. And that "crazy notion" that you have reframed comes from the USSC. As far as the rights that employees in the workplace have I have not even addressed that. So you pontificating on what I believe, or what perceptions I have, is usual Ozzie ****.