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Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑ Well let's look at the situation. First, Ukraine would almost definitely never have joined NATO before the war. That is almost a guarantee.
Almost doesn't count in war.
In any case, the 38 biological weapons laboratories the CIA/NWO et al were operating on Russia's border in violation of international law are more than sufficient justification, even if your "almost" were changed to "certainly."
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑ Second, Zelensky was on the way out anyways given his unpopularity before the war.
Which US proxy heads that fatally compromised ****-show of a state is not relevnt to Russi's justifiction for invsion.
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑ Third, even if Ukraine joined NATO (and that's a big if) it would not have used it as a pretext to threaten Russian territory.
Enemy missiles on one's border seem less threatening to those pointing than to those being pointed at, Dr. Kissinger.
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑Fourth, Russia signed a non aggression pact with Ukraine in 1994 when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons.
Nonaggression pacts are not suicide pacts. They are two way streets. Bio-weapons labs operated by strategic enemies violate those - as do mass murders of ethnic Russians by committed Nazis empowered by the state..
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑Fifth, Russia has caused these so called "coups" in Ukraine too.
Because you just said so.

Even if that *** pull were true, it isn't relevant to Russia's position in responding to the US doing so. We have fostered coups in Mexico. Are you under the impression this gives Russia the right to plant a hostile government on our border?

I dare you answer this question for yourself with a yes or no - understanding that a no will negate your argument on this point.
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑They have also helped install pro Russian leaders over the past two decades.
One certainly hopes so, or they are not doing their job.
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑The West and Russia BOTH played the game. You call them coups, I just call it foreign meddling which is not a black and white issue.
Good - this is a good start. It's not a black and white issue.

Keep noodling. When you get to it's none of your **** business, you have arrived - then you can start addressing the fact that the white house is occupied by a man who lost the election and had it stolen for him.

You know - your REAL business - not the **** that fox and msnbc would have you on about. .
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑Hell, Russia played the game in America by supporting Donald Trump given Putin's dislike for Hillary Clinton.
The nice lady who sold him Uranium One and left four years of State Department work product cooling on the window sill like an apple pie for him to take?

Are you drunk?
Monderegal » 06 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑Finally, this is an actual war with dead bodies and buildings and historic landmarks lying in ruin.
Like Yemen, you mean? Or Nicargua? Or Panama? Or lybia? Or Syria? Or Afghnistan? Or Vietnam? Or Iraq? Or El Salvador? Or GUatemala?

Like those places, you mean? Continued...
 
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