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Blackvegetable » 09 Jun 2022, 12:11 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2022, 12:11 pm

Huey » 09 Jun 2022, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2022, 12:02 pm

DDM4 rifles are available in three main calibers: 5.56mm NATO, . 300 AAC Blackout, and 6.8mm SPC. While there are pros and cons for each of these calibers, and reasons you may be attracted to one over the other, the majority of DDM4 rifles are chambered in 5.56mm.

https://danieldefense.com/wire/firearm-features

The 5.56 will also fire 223:

We only recommend the use of factory loaded, brass cased ammunition. We urge all of our customers to stay away from steel cased ammo and reloads. In regards to our 5.56 carbines, all are chambered and function tested with 5.56 ammunition. It is safe to shoot .223 Rem but not all will perform on the same level. Find some ammo that works, and stick with it.

https://danieldefense.com/faq

Ok, now make your point.

Enough dancy dancy..

When you arrive at the (FRESHLY HEAVILY REDESIGNED) "Home Defense" (very recently nee "AR15 Rifles") page at the manufacturer's website, it specifies THIS round

5.56mm NATO


With which sporting/educational organization are the letters N, A, T, O associated?

By most sentients.




 

 

Let's finish off your NATO reference.  They are designated NATO rounds because they are designed for military use.  They are nothing more than FMJ rounds.  They are not hollow points or any specialty PD rounds.  Reason being for years expandng bullets were considered illegal by Geneva Convention Standards, including the time when Stoner created this round.  Here is what soldiers say about this allegedly devastating round:

Soldiers in combat suggested that existing ammunition (like the M855 5.56mm round) was often ineffective against the enemy, especially in urban environments where bullets tended to pass “through and through,” causing insufficient injury to put the enemy out of the fight, and escalating civilian deaths from ricochets and the increased number of bullets fired. 

That article is actually taking the line that expandable bullets (hollow points, etc) are allowed in combat and DOD has changed their rules:

https://www.justsecurity.org/25200/dod- ... -conflict/

While hollow points are commonly used by police and civilians, they are banned in international warfare under the 1899 Hague Convention's early laws of war that the United States has followed even though the U.S. government never ratified the agreement.

https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/hollow ... n-us-army/

The point being is the round that Stoner created was not really as effective and destructive as you claim.  Let's talk ammo.