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Huey » 09 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2022, 12:56 pm

Let's finish off your NATO reference.  They are designated NATO rounds because they are designed for military use.  They are nothing more than FMJ rounds.  They are not hollow points or any specialty PD rounds.  Reason being for years expandng bullets were considered illegal by Geneva Convention Standards, including the time when Stoner created this round.  Here is what soldiers say about this allegedly devastating round:

Soldiers in combat suggested that existing ammunition (like the M855 5.56mm round) was often ineffective against the enemy, especially in urban environments where bullets tended to pass “through and through,” causing insufficient injury to put the enemy out of the fight, and escalating civilian deaths from ricochets and the increased number of bullets fired. 

That article is actually taking the line that expandable bullets (hollow points, etc) are allowed in combat and DOD has changed their rules:

https://www.justsecurity.org/25200/dod- ... -conflict/

While hollow points are commonly used by police and civilians, they are banned in international warfare under the 1899 Hague Convention's early laws of war that the United States has followed even though the U.S. government never ratified the agreement.

https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/hollow ... n-us-army/

The point being is the round that Stoner created was not really as effective and destructive as you claim.  Let's talk ammo.