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Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm

No.  Guns serve a much greater purpose.

If you have the Kyancah, or the Crones, you can't fix that with a gun. And I don't think anyone has suggested we have to choose one freedom or the other. We can have both. It's not a contest.

Weed can make the difference between life and death. I have as much right to grab your gun from you, as you have to take your neighbor's sack of weed. Which is zero, precisely.

You can only delegate rights you HAVE - not rights you don't. Are you genuinely thick enough to believe that you have a right to go snooping around on your neighbor and telling him what he can and cannot smoke in his house? And if YOU don't have that right, then I don't either - so how can we delegate it? Aren't all JUST laws derived from the governed?

Skans » 23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm

I do think that as a society we have a right to keep people off of addictive drugs,

Here is what I would say about that. You have a right to stop me from dealing drugs to your kids. You have a right to stop me from driving high on roads they use. You even have a right to say, if you're going to use drugs that are known to produce psychosis, you had best keep that **** in your house, because if you're using it out here around my family, I'm gonna act.

Now, THOSE rights? ^ THOSE rights you actually possess, and can delegate - unlike the phantom right of prohibition. THOSE rights translate to strong REGULATORY powers of government, in furtherance of your legitimte regultory interests as a citizen. 

You have no prohibition interest.  A man's home is his castle, and in it, he should be free of busy-bodies with their noses in his affairs. 

Skan » 23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2022, 3:56 pm

and to punish those who seek to get our citizens addicted. Otherwise, we're screwed.  The Chemists will get better and better at making drugs more addictive. You have to see that.

I guess I DO have to see that. I'm **** looking at it, every day. It's a **** epidemic - like Covid, only real. 

And what I'm hearing from you is that we should stay the course - so I have to conclude one of two things:

1. that you must be satisfied with the status quo.
2. that your thinking cap needs an adjustment. 

For the record, my money is on number 2. (Hee hee. I said, "number 2").

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