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Fuelman » 36 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

36 minutes ago

Hmm, does your net worth at death signify the amount of value you added to the economy?  I think not. A fairly poor person that is a long term saver could end up with millions while the super rich guy decided to give his money away before death. Now do your little math exercise.

It doesn't make sense to me to compare your Grandpappy to Sam Walton. Literally everyone ends up at a different number in the end and doesn't really tell the story of ones life.

I could not agree more.

The issue is not whether one or the other of us wants to defend "equal outcomes." Neither of us do.

The issue is whether a system which allows men to amass more wealth than entire nations is a just one or an unjust one. At least, that is how I read the argument. You?

Fuelman » 36 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

36 minutes ago

We can look at some numbers concerning Walmart though.

Walmart is generally, on average, roughly 9% to 25% cheaper than Safeway and Albertsons, making it the more budget-friendly option. According to 2026 data, Safeway is about 8.8% more expensive than Walmart, while Albertsons is significantly higher at approximately 24.8% more expensive. 

Higher end food stores like Sprouts, Trader Joe's, etc. will cost you 25-40% more than Walmart.

90% of Americans live within 10 miles of a Walmart.

Walmart serves 190 million customers a month in the US, 2.2 billion annually.

Now consider that every transaction at Walmart saved the consumer 9-40%. That is a massive number and then multiply it by the 34 years since Walton died. The number is staggering.

I would say even in death Sam Walton adds value to consumers in a big way.

You make a fantastic argument. But you're using an outlier to do it - can we agree on that?

Let me be more direct. Cn you make a similar argument for - oh, say, Ted Turner? Warren Buffett? Have they added similar great value to society? (See what I did there? Great Value? )

Fuelman » 36 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

36 minutes ago

The Walton wealth doesn't bother me, I spend $500-800/ month at Walmart and Sam's club. Mostly Sam's. It saves me money.

Have card will travel. I do the same.

Fuelman » 36 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

36 minutes ago

What if Walmart never happened? Sam was content with his hand full of stores at the time.

I don't frown on people's wealth. ****, the "Shamwow" guy kicked my ***. $20k investment on a commercial and he sold millions of units in a 2-3 year period. Life takes you exactly to where you are.

  Now I know where you got your saltyness.

I will not stand for being called salty, sir. I am probably the most affable man on this board.

Anyone says different is a *** loving commie.