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Already debunked this pic:
What AI says about BV's pic of Trump in drag
VF made an editorial assertion, not a caption based on evidence. In other words, neither BV nor VF can prove that it is Trump any more than it can be proved that it isn't.
**** moron.
About the claim itself
- Over the years, various outlets and social-media posts have circulated photos from 1980s–1990s New York society events and charity galas where guests wore elaborate costumes or drag as part of themed parties.
- Some publications (including Vanity Fair, in commentary pieces rather than forensic reports) have reported or repeated claims that a person in one such photo was Trump, often citing second-hand accounts or party anecdotes—not conclusive proof.
- No independently verified, primary-source confirmation (e.g., Trump acknowledging it, event records explicitly naming him in that costume, or contemporaneous reporting) has ever settled the matter definitively.
Vanity Fair could be wrong, and a caption alone is
not proof.Here’s the key point, stated plainly:
A magazine caption is not evidence. It’s an editorial assertion, and those can be mistaken—especially for old party photos with costumes and incomplete records.A few important clarifications:1. Captions are not fact-checked like investigative reporting
- Captions are often written by editors using:
- prior anecdotes,
- social-circle lore,
- secondhand attributions,
- or assumptions repeated from earlier commentary.
- They usually do not cite primary verification unless the piece itself is an investigation.
2. Vanity Fair has editorial credibility — but not infallibility
- VF is reputable in culture, fashion, and commentary, not forensic identification.
- They are not immune to errors, especially in retrospective society gossip from the 1980s–90s.
- A caption saying “this is X” does not mean:
- the person confirmed it,
- the identity was verified,
- or that documentation exists.
3. Why this specific claim remains weak
- No contemporaneous reporting from the event identifying him that way
- No on-record confirmation from Trump or the event organizers
- No multiple independent primary sources backing the claim
- The photo itself provides no verifiable identifiers, especially given costume, makeup, lighting, and angle
So the correct epistemic status of the claim is:
“Asserted by a publication, but not independently established.”
That’s very different from “proven,” and it’s completely reasonable to be skeptical—especially if the visual resemblance doesn’t persuade you.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...