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Blackvegetable » 12 Jun 2022, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jun 2022, 3:47 pm

Huey » 12 Jun 2022, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jun 2022, 3:37 pm

And the coup de grace:

An AR 15 semi auto bolt carrier group does not have that lug. In fact, it’s cut off. This results in a lighter weight BCG and that’s the primary advantage of semi-auto BCGs. At least it was way back before every company out there produced lightweight full auto rated BCGs.

@Blackvegetable  

What have you learned?  You learned that a full auto BCG does not make an AR 15 full auto,

And you learned that the original AR 15 had a different BCG than the Stoner Design.

I told you that years ago but you didn’t listen.  Now you are just embarrassing yourself.

Now let's get back to what I've said.

I've said that the AR 15 rifle was designed for a specific, entirely non-civilian, purpose.

Though some people slap AR15 on anything, it technically refers to any firearm based on the AR 15 DESIGN.

To further the disassociation from civilian use, the platform is designed to use a SPECIFIC round, maximizing its military function. In fact, the round is even so labeled.

There is no discreet DESIGN for semi auto AR 15 style firearms, they use the Stoner design, with certain modifications.

This constitutes a VARIANT, NOT a DESIGN.

You've argued that the M4 is not based on the AR15. This is comically uninformed as the M4 is a variant of the M16.

Period. End of story.

Nod.

I'll go with this one. 

I've said that the AR 15 rifle was designed for a specific, entirely non-civilian, purpose.

The Armalite Rifle 15, which colt named the Colt c601, and later branded by the military, did exactly that.  The SP1 was designed for civilians as a hunting rifle using.

Though some people slap AR15 on anything, it technically refers to any firearm based on the AR 15 DESIGN.

Colt is the sole manufacturer that can "slap" AR 15 on their firearms.  Already posted for you.  The DDM4v7 does not even look like a Colt AR 15, is not named AR 15 and it is not branded on the weapon.  

To further the disassociation from civilian use, the platform is designed to use a SPECIFIC round, maximizing its military function. In fact, the round is even so labeled.

There is nothing special about the round as I have posted.  Many troops don't  like it.  The main reason the round was developed was two fold.  They wanted a round that would go further and faster, BUT was light enough that an infantryman could carry more ammo and replace the heavier 7.62.  The .222 was invented, which later became 5.56 as designated by the military.  The NATO 5.56 in use today was invented by a company in Belgium.  This is a long but interesting read:

https://www.snipercountry.com/5-56x45-n ... hronology/

You've argued that the M4 is not based on the AR15. This is comically uninformed as the M4 is a variant of the M16.

It is not based on the Colt AR 15.  It is based on the M16.  And the weapon in question is the DDM4v7 which is not licensed by Colt, nor does the weapon in question look like an M4.  

This should end your confusion. 

Now, go back and identify which lower goes with with rifle.