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Cannonpointer » 11 Jan 2026, 9:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2026, 9:18 pm

DeezerShoove » 11 Jan 2026, 7:05 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jan 2026, 7:05 pm

Apparently so...

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Yes, ICE officers, like other federal employees, are required to take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. This oath is part of their commitment to uphold the laws and duties of their position.    Cornell University Al Jazeera

Which do not include traffic laws.

The mandate for ICE is very limited.

It is very limited:

What powers do ICE agents have to arrest people?​

Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo

I would say hitting an ICE agent with a car is an assault
 

ROG62 » 12 Jan 2026, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 9:56 am

don't fret, it's just white noise rattling around in your vacuous skull...

The white noise people are the problem..  The doom azzes don't understand they aren't even 10% of the folks on the spaceship.
 

ROG62 » 12 Jan 2026, 9:52 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 9:52 am

and yet he was a drug addled junkie who died of cardiac failure...

I thought Jesus was crucified?  
 

JohnnyYou » 12 Jan 2026, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:39 pm

That seems a fair interpretation.

Trump has the World Flying Higher than Ozzie Osbourne ever was...  We are closer to state sponsored wipe outs than ever before. People are going to be jumping out hotel windows soon.. I sure think Virginia Guifre's suicide is suspect.

I am willing to bet I am on Krispy's shoot the dog list.

I see it as about equal.

It's state goons in the streets under the orange dream.
It was ****-fingered slackers in the streets under the drooling menace. 

Neither circumstance is ideal for soccer moms and puppies. 
 

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm

It is very limited:

What powers do ICE agents have to arrest people?​

Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo

I would say hitting an ICE agent with a car is an assault

Who did that?
 

ROG62 » 12 Jan 2026, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 9:50 am

firstly, she was a bisexual... how would the agent have a clue as to her sexual depravity? was it the butch dyke look?

probably none of the above as it was the incessant honking and disruption they caused...

your thoughts?

Well,  it could have been the trolling.  There still is no moral justification, and possibly legal injustification for Good's killing.

Even CP is on board when the state starts killing citizens the shyt is gonna hit the fan.  It may the last fan Trump has.
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:48 pm

I see it as about equal.

It's state goons in the streets under the orange dream.
It was ****-fingered slackers in the streets under the drooling menace. 

Neither circumstance is ideal for soccer moms and puppies.

I hope we finally get some decent leadrship in 2026, but I ain't holdin' my breath.

Americans seems to be only be able to vote for dumb old ****..

The Gerontaucracy of Ancient Flatulators need to say see you later.

A Turd Therm will nail the stake in America's vampire heart.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:49 pm

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm

It is very limited:

What powers do ICE agents have to arrest people?​

Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo

I would say hitting an ICE agent with a car is an assault

Who did that?
 

 

The woman driving the car.  And if you recall no firearms would pulled until she moved the car.

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:32 pm

It is not up to me to explain what you mean.  Why you afraid, Wee Little One? Although you were quite clear in claiming impeding federals and ramming them with you car is not a crime in MN.

I don't know why I must explain it....

It is quite clear.

But if you want me to, we will have to do it my way......
 

Blackvegetable » 12 Jan 2026, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:01 pm

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:32 pm

It is not up to me to explain what you mean.  Why you afraid, Wee Little One? Although you were quite clear in claiming impeding federals and ramming them with you car is not a crime in MN.

I don't know why I must explain it....

It is quite clear.

But if you want me to, we will have to do it my way......

That sentence makes it quite clear you do not think impeding federal officers from doing their jobs isa crime.  I don't really care any longer.

I may have to add that bit of stupidity to my sig box.

 
 

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:04 pm

That sentence makes it quite clear you 

Step up and take your beating.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypvv8n1jvo

Blackvegetable » 12 Jan 2026, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:18 pm

Step up and take your beating.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypvv8n1jvo

1.  Different case.

2.  I didn’t  say anything about assault.  I said impeding federal agents.

This is why you don’t get your way. The you reframe and lie.
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:36 pm

I'm not losing sleep. I'm just arguing the issue, looking for decent refutations.

Yup.

Me, too. I give two ****. But I take note of the precedents.
Letting citizens be gunned by the state without robust post mortems is the action of an idiotic populace that is highly desirous of having its rights trampled.

Funny part is that from a certain point of view, our rights WERE trampled by the previous administration and this "corrective action" could be considered the necessary evil until the scale is rebalanced so-to-speak.
If it becomes the normal SOP ad infinitum, we gots us a real **** problem.

So, these **** idiots are giving the government all the ammo it needs to keep this **** going forever.

btw
I'm the guy that said it should be the standard that ALL new laws have a sunset clause.
A variance from that standard must be sought if the new law needs to be permanent.
Permission must be granted otherwise laws begin to drop out of the books in 7 years or whatever.
btw2
This ICE **** needs to have an end but simple lib cocksuckers can't let Biden's mistake get undone a little bit.
 

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:21 pm

1.  Different case.

2.  I didn’t  say anything about assault.  I said impeding federal agents.

This is why you don’t get your way. The you reframe and lie.

Tiny,

In that instance the DoJ alleged a Felony. A jury rejected it.

You asserted that Letitia James was "guilty of the same thing" for which Grifty was found liable. The DoJ had to appoint an ambulance chaser to issue the CRIMINAL indictment, which crashed in spectacular fashion.

You have EXPLICITLY asserted that a judge's issued opinion is "irrelevant", and have also asserted that Grifty was prosecuted for "no crime"


You've disqualified yourself from offering any declarative comments about law and its language.


 

Blackvegetable » 12 Jan 2026, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:30 pm

Tiny,

In that instance the DoJ alleged a Felony. A jury rejected it.

You asserted that Letitia James was "guilty of the same thing" for which Grifty was found liable. The DoJ had to appoint an ambulance chaser to issue the CRIMINAL indictment, which crashed in spectacular fashion.

You have EXPLICITLY asserted that a judge's issued opinion is "irrelevant", and have also asserted that Grifty was prosecuted for "no crime"

You've disqualified yourself from offering any declarative comments about law and its language.

I am not talking about any of that.  I did post that is a crime to impede federal agents while they are doing their jobs.

Yo want to talk about that stuff start a thread.

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:45 pm

I would say hitting an ICE agent with a car is an assault

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:49 pm

Who did that?

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 12:59 pm

The woman driving the car.  

Did the impact break any bones when she hit the ICE agent?
 

Huey » 12 Jan 2026, 1:34 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:34 pm

I am not talking about any of that.

of course not


You're continuing to assert dumb **** handed to you by an Administration celebrated for its indifference to Truth

And you're demanding that I translate words in plain English. even though you've displayed a consistent indifference to their meaning.
 

DeezerShoove » 12 Jan 2026, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:21 pm

Funny part is that from a certain point of view, our rights WERE trampled by the previous administration and this "corrective action" could be considered the necessary evil until the scale is rebalanced so-to-speak.
If it becomes the normal SOP ad infinitum, we gots us a real **** problem.

So, these **** idiots are giving the government all the ammo it needs to keep this **** going forever.

btw
I'm the guy that said it should be the standard that ALL new laws have a sunset clause.
A variance from that standard must be sought if the new law needs to be permanent.
Permission must be granted otherwise laws begin to drop out of the books in 7 years or whatever.
btw2
This ICE **** needs to have an end but simple lib cocksuckers can't let Biden's mistake get undone a little bit.

Like I said, looking for decent refutations. 

I like your "rebalancing" take on it. We have invaders to repel, and the lives of a few retards is a small price - especially when they sit pretty for it, like a begging poodle.
 

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:41 pm

Like I said, looking for decent refutations. 

I like your "rebalancing" take on it. We have invaders to repel, and the lives of a few retards is a small price - especially when they sit pretty for it, like a begging poodle.

You cynical (and funny) bastard.  

Cannonpointer » 12 Jan 2026, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jan 2026, 1:36 pm

Did the impact break any bones when she hit the ICE agent?

Oh. Are you saying it is only assault if you get an injury?  No, no bones were broken.