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Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 8:14 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 8:14 pm

I found little joey's candor surprising. He came right out and admitted that his handlers were using fraud to steal the election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGRnhBmHYN0

Feelings don't count
 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:38 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:38 pm

Rudy paid a hefty penalty for running his mouth, Ashli Babbitt lost her life.

Successful crimes are still crimes. 

You should examine what it is in you that makes you want to celebrate such things. 
 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:39 pm

Feelings don't count

Correct. Facts do.

Well, with heteros. 

Hell, in the gay community, an old man hiding in his basement kicked the **** out of Barrack Obama, veritably eclipsing the halfrican medicorty's vote count. 

I cannot pretend to UNDERSTAND such school-girl beliefs, but as a liberal fellow, I accept them. You think an old man bitch slapped Obama - likely your white supremacy on display, but I cannot be certain. 
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 9:40 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:40 pm

Successful crimes are still crimes. 

You should examine what it is in you that makes you want to celebrate such things.

I hope they find the proof and prosecute those that did it. Until then, I am not convinced the election was stolen.
Once again, it the system is "rigged" as Trump has claimed, no stopping it, voter ID or not.


And this brings me back to my original statements.

The BIGGEST hole needs to be plugged, first.
What you have to ask yourself is do you believe the **** coming out of Trump's mouth. That **** got Ashli Babbitt killed.

What I agree is as follows: 

The issue with this argument is that time and time again, voter photo ID laws are proven to be ineffective tools to fight voter fraud — in the rare instances it does take place. While voter photo ID laws aim to prevent in-person voter impersonation, an almost non-existent form of voter fraud, other types of voter impersonation are similarly rare and not cause for significant concern. According to the Brennan Center, the rate of in-person voter impersonation is extremely low: only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It’s worth noting that this rate is even significantly lower than other rare forms of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which voter photo ID laws do not address.  

Before you start in on Mail In Voting...

Out of 250,000,000 votes cast by mail between 2000 and 2020, there were 193 criminal convictions. By those numbers, a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than they are to commit voter fraud. Further, there are already measures in place to detect irregularities and investigate potential cases of voter fraud, making the need for further legislation even smaller. 



 

Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:43 pm

Correct. Facts do.

Well, with heteros. 

Hell, in the gay community, an old man hiding in his basement kicked the **** out of Barrack Obama, veritably eclipsing the halfrican medicorty's vote count. 

I cannot pretend to UNDERSTAND such school-girl beliefs, but as a liberal fellow, I accept them. You think an old man bitch slapped Obama - likely your white supremacy on display, but I cannot be certain.

     how do you know so much about the gay community.
Asking for a friend, of course 
 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

I hope they find the proof and prosecute those that did it. Until then, I am not convinced the election was stolen.
Once again, it the system is "rigged" as Trump has claimed, no stopping it, voter ID or not.

No, I GET it. You believe that a sick old man hiding from cameras out-polled a vibrant, youthful Barrack Obama. It's gay, obviously. But you be you.

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

And this brings me back to my original statements.

The BIGGEST hole needs to be plugged, first.
What you have to ask yourself is do you believe the **** coming out of Trump's mouth. That **** got Ashli Babbitt killed.

As I told you, I was there, on the mall, casting a shadow for the drones to count.

So, yeah: I believe Joey's handlers stole the election. And you believe the gay fantasy that Biden kicked Obama's *** at the polls with the largest number of votes in history.

How ANYONE can doubt your gay homosexuality and probable queerity is beyond me, but I do understand you believe that sodomitious nonsense.

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

What I agree is as follows: 

The issue with this argument is that time and time again, voter photo ID laws are proven to be ineffective tools to fight voter fraud — in the rare instances it does take place. While voter photo ID laws aim to prevent in-person voter impersonation, an almost non-existent form of voter fraud, other types of voter impersonation are similarly rare and not cause for significant concern. According to the Brennan Center, the rate of in-person voter impersonation is extremely low: only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It’s worth noting that this rate is even significantly lower than other rare forms of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which voter photo ID laws do not address.

Don't care. If you cannot maintain ID, you are too stupid to vote in MAH Murka.

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

Before you start in on Mail In Voting...

Out of 250,000,000 votes cast by mail between 2000 and 2020, there were 193 criminal convictions. By those numbers, a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than they are to commit voter fraud.

That is the dumbest argument you've ever made, betraying FUNDAMENTAL ignorance of how math works.

Those numbers do not comment on the likelihood of in-mail voter fraud. They comment EXCLUSIVELY on the likelihood of conviction.

And that thing you just did? That thing where you immediately thought I was nit-picking? That is what makes you an ignoranimous. I am not nit-picking. I am teaching you how math works. Specifically, the proper use of statistics.

You cannot take one category - in this case, criminal convictions, - and use it as a proxy for an entirely different category - votor fraud. The unsupported assumption that apprehension naturally follows commission, and conviction naturally follows apprehension, displays what one would HOPE is willful ignorance - but what one strongly suspects is utter ignorance.

If votor fraud is successful, the side that won is in charge of prosecutions. 

Sit with it.

Just **** sit with it. Just TRY, ffs.   

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

Further, there are already measures in place to detect irregularities and investigate potential cases of voter fraud, making the need for further legislation even smaller.

At the end of the day, everyone you elect answers to the same cabal. Nothing they promised you will be delivered. So this argument is entirely academic.

But it DID give us a look at your math chops, and I say your junior high school owes you an apology - or you, it. SOMEONE let their end down in a big way.

 
 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:48 pm

     how do you know so much about the gay community.
Asking for a friend, of course

I am exposed to it daily, posting on this board, and weekly, seeking dates on friday night. 
 

Fuelman » 10 Feb 2026, 4:32 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 4:32 pm

I imagine there are many who can't provide evidence of citizenship due to whatever factors, a much larger portion of them just refuse to do so.

The wife had a Colorado driver's license back in the early 90's, when we moved to Colorado recently, she had to jump through some hoops with her new last name. While a pain in ***, the paper trail is there.

A quick AI search produced this:

Approximately 1 in 10 (roughly 11% or over 20 million) adult U.S. citizens do not have a current, government-issued photo ID, according to voter ID studies by the Brennan Center for Justice and VoteRiders. Data suggests 2.6 million people (about 1%) lack any form of government-issued photo ID entirely, while others have ID that does not meet strict state requirements. 

Impact on Voting: As many as 11% of eligible voters lack the specific ID required by strict state laws.

 Demographic Disparities: The lack of ID is disproportionately higher among Black adults (21%), Hispanic adults (23%), and transgender people (68%).

 Barriers to Access: Roughly 15-18 million adults do not have easy access to necessary documentation like birth certificates or citizenship documents, hindering their ability to obtain an ID.

 Regional & Economic Factors: Roughly 39% of individuals with annual incomes under $30,000 do not have a license with their current name/address.

 Real ID Status: In some states, fewer than 70% of residents have a compliant Real ID, and in some, that rate is less than 50%. 

 Those at the highest risk of lacking ID include low-income individuals, racial minorities, seniors, and students.

(roughly 11% or over 20 million)

damn, isn't that about how many illegals joe let in?

Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 10:14 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 10:14 pm

I am exposed to it daily, posting on this board, and weekly, seeking dates on friday night.

 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 6:02 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 6:02 pm

Let's be honest, Trumps claims of rigged and stolen are true, voter ID will not fix the "flipping of votes".

say what you agree with Trump?

Cannonpointer » 10 Feb 2026, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 6:21 pm

AI lies.

You have to know a hundred people. How many of them are sad sack losers that do not have ID?



How dey buy dey jin and joose?

A state ID is enough. You don't have to board a plane to vote. MAYBE some dude in alaska - but he has his own plane and the lake is his airport. 

EXACTLY the people we don't want voting.

Someone tell me what the problem is.

You are right, I don't know anyone without an ID, I also don't exist on the fringes of society.

For all we know those surveys were done in a large homeless camp in California and plugged into the statistical puke machine for the entire country.

We updated our passports last year, good to go for awhile. Lost count of how many times we have gone through background checks over the years.
 

Huey » 10 Feb 2026, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 2:59 pm

Yet no one here, including the poster who made that comment, will reveal what the entirely arbitrary burden is.  Perhaps someone will elucidate.

And have no fear.  There is not a  PG thread.

You simply CAN NOT have people who are NOT vested in, NOR really consider themselves to be PART, of a given Nation/Country... to VOTE for the most COMPETENT candidates to LEAD that nation... WHEN THEY are not REALLY PART OF IT !! 

BUT THAT is what Democrats, and Democrat Party, are pushing for, AS they take money from (or are otherwise influenced by) China, and do NOT really BELIEVE in the Democratic and Capitalistic principles that America was BUILT ON, and that have MADE America GREAT... and the SUCCESS that it has been over the last 250 YEARS!!

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 9:45 pm

I hope they find the proof and prosecute those that did it. Until then, I am not convinced the election was stolen.
Once again, it the system is "rigged" as Trump has claimed, no stopping it, voter ID or not.

And this brings me back to my original statements.

The BIGGEST hole needs to be plugged, first.
What you have to ask yourself is do you believe the **** coming out of Trump's mouth. That **** got Ashli Babbitt killed.

What I agree is as follows: 

The issue with this argument is that time and time again, voter photo ID laws are proven to be ineffective tools to fight voter fraud — in the rare instances it does take place. While voter photo ID laws aim to prevent in-person voter impersonation, an almost non-existent form of voter fraud, other types of voter impersonation are similarly rare and not cause for significant concern. According to the Brennan Center, the rate of in-person voter impersonation is extremely low: only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It’s worth noting that this rate is even significantly lower than other rare forms of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which voter photo ID laws do not address.  

Before you start in on Mail In Voting...

Out of 250,000,000 votes cast by mail between 2000 and 2020, there were 193 criminal convictions. By those numbers, a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than they are to commit voter fraud. Further, there are already measures in place to detect irregularities and investigate potential cases of voter fraud, making the need for further legislation even smaller.

PROVEN INSTANCES OF VOTER FRAUD 1171
CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS 1018
CIVIL PENALTIES 48
DIVERSION PROGRAMS 81
JUDICIAL FINDINGS 14
OFFICIAL FINDINGS 15

SAMPLING OF ELECTION FRAUD CASES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY: https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/ho ... -SD020.pdf

You might want to consider that in the world of grown men not homos, joey biden does not swamp and bitch slap barrack obama. Doesm't **** happen outisde the jurisdiction of Homosexualvania. So you might want to move your dog and pony show to Lessgayville or Notsuckinton. 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Feb 2026, 8:15 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 8:15 pm

PROVEN INSTANCES OF VOTER FRAUD 1171
CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS 1018
CIVIL PENALTIES 48
DIVERSION PROGRAMS 81
JUDICIAL FINDINGS 14
OFFICIAL FINDINGS 15

SAMPLING OF ELECTION FRAUD CASES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY: https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/ho ... -SD020.pdf

You might want to consider that in the world of grown men not homos, joey biden does not swamp and bitch slap barrack obama. Doesm't **** happen outisde the jurisdiction of Homosexualvania. So you might want to move your dog and pony show to Lessgayville or Notsuckinton.

Consider this situation. The Captain of a vessel states that the boat struck a reef, resulting in one hole beneath the waterline and another "way above the waterline". Trump has consistently asserted that the elections are rigged and stolen, claiming that the voting software is corrupt, among other things. (This refers to the hole that is beneath the waterline.)

There exists an extremely slim possibility that the boat could take on water from the hole located above the waterline. (Requiring a photo Voter ID reveals that fraud occurs in only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It is important to highlight that this rate is significantly lower than other infrequent types of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which are not addressed by voter photo ID laws).

Which hole do you patch first? If we are to accept Trump's claims as truth, there is indeed a hole below the waterline, and repairing the hole above will not prevent the ship from taking on water and sinking.

These Voter laws don't address what Trump and team claim is happening. Get the big hole fixed, then we can implement Voter ID rules. I am for Voter ID.
If we find out there is no "big problems" someone needs to call Trump out on his lie, as this may have been the biggest, resulting in Ashli Babbitts death.

If voter fraud exists, I hope it is uncovered, those responsible are held accountable, and the system is rectified.
 

*Roshambo » 11 Feb 2026, 9:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 9:24 pm

Consider this situation. The Captain of a vessel states that the boat struck a reef, resulting in one hole beneath the waterline and another "way above the waterline". Trump has consistently asserted that the elections are rigged and stolen, claiming that the voting software is corrupt, among other things. (This refers to the hole that is beneath the waterline.)

There exists an extremely slim possibility that the boat could take on water from the hole located above the waterline. (Requiring a photo Voter ID reveals that fraud occurs in only 0.00004% of all ballots cast. It is important to highlight that this rate is significantly lower than other infrequent types of voter fraud, such as absentee ballot fraud, which are not addressed by voter photo ID laws).

Which hole do you patch first? If we are to accept Trump's claims as truth, there is indeed a hole below the waterline, and repairing the hole above will not prevent the ship from taking on water and sinking.

These Voter laws don't address what Trump and team claim is happening. Get the big hole fixed, then we can implement Voter ID rules. I am for Voter ID.
If we find out there is no "big problems" someone needs to call Trump out on his lie, as this may have been the biggest, resulting in Ashli Babbitts death.

If voter fraud exists, I hope it is uncovered, those responsible are held accountable, and the system is rectified.

Do you, though?

You have parroted the obvious lie that lyin' joe biden, the serial plagiarist gaff machine, WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING, put BarrackObama's numbers to shame. Anyone can say what they want about Obama, but the moron who says he runs a lame campaign is sandwich gay.

Joey, on the other hand, HID FROM THE **** CAMERAS during that campaign that YOU say swamped Obama's record.

So now, you want me to believe that you DESIRE to be exposed as a liar. And naturally, I think you're lying again.
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Feb 2026, 10:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 10:01 pm

Do you, though?

You have parroted the obvious lie that lyin' joe biden, the serial plagiarist gaff machine, WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING, put BarrackObama's numbers to shame. Anyone can say what they want about Obama, but the moron who says he runs a lame campaign is sandwich gay.

Joey, on the other hand, HID FROM THE **** CAMERAS during that campaign that YOU say swamped Obama's record.

So now, you want me to believe that you DESIRE to be exposed as a liar. And naturally, I think you're lying again.

Are you sure? I don't recall stating that. 
 

*Roshambo » 11 Feb 2026, 10:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 10:03 pm

Are you sure? I don't recall stating that.

So you are not even man enough to own the meaning of your own words?

That has nothing to do with me. That's all you. YOU insist the election was clean. That means YOU insist on everything I attributed to you. You can be a child about it - that reflects only on you.

 Stomp those feet and jut that chin. Accountability is for men. Women and children are exempt.
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Feb 2026, 11:41 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Feb 2026, 11:41 pm

So you are not even man enough to own the meaning of your own words?

That has nothing to do with me. That's all you. YOU insist the election was clean. That means YOU insist on everything I attributed to you. You can be a child about it - that reflects only on you.

 Stomp those feet and jut that chin. Accountability is for men. Women and children are exempt.

Again, you lost me. I know very little about what you are alleging (Obama/Biden).

Huey » 10 Feb 2026, 2:59 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 2:59 pm

Yet no one here, including the poster who made that comment, will reveal what the entirely arbitrary burden is.  Perhaps someone will elucidate.

And have no fear.  There is not a  PG thread.

Check out these students...they all have the talking points that they learn in class. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW2LpFkVfYk
 
 

*Roshambo » 10 Feb 2026, 8:01 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Feb 2026, 8:01 pm

Provide verifiable proven evidence the election was rigged and stolen. As of yet, I haven't seen any. 
Before you start in on Mail In Voting...

Out of 250,000,000 votes cast by mail between 2000 and 2020, there were 193 criminal convictions. By those numbers, a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than they are to commit voter fraud. Further, there are already measures in place to detect irregularities and investigate potential cases of voter fraud, making the need for further legislation even smaller. 

https://i.postimg.cc/rpc6tN7f/200w-(3).gif

You've been out of the reality loop.


Everyone here knows yer a rino at best.