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Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 10:47 am

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 10:42 am

Idiot, YOU did not specify.  There were two points made in that post.  YOU did not specify which point.  Plus, before I answer questions You must take the pledge to answer on a one for one bases.  I PLEDGE THAT. I guess your ignorance will be on display if you do as well.

Not for nothing, it is odd I am paying much more for health insurance than I was before Obamacare.  It is also odd we spent so much money on EVs for both the manufacturer and the buyer.  Can't find anything like that in the constitution.

Focus, @*LyingLittleMelty

Not for nothing, it is odd I am paying much more for health insurance than I was before Obamacare.

That's a really novel insight, Tiny....for how many things are you paying LESS than you did 16 years ago?

And I must assume that you will now proceed to demonstrate the causation.
 

 

Focus asshole.

Obamacare was not implemented until 2014.  Math genius, that is 12 years.

Next, are you taking the pledge on questions?
 

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 10:54 am

Focus asshole.

Obamacare was not implemented until 2014.  Math genius, that is 12 years.

Next, are you taking the pledge on questions?

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, was originally signed into law on March 23, 2010,

Next, are you taking the pledge on questions?

What's in that for me?

The last time you labored this you welshed and called me Adolph for trying to collect, zerointegrity little ****.

Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:03 am

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 10:54 am

Focus asshole.

Obamacare was not implemented until 2014.  Math genius, that is 12 years.

Next, are you taking the pledge on questions?

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, was originally signed into law on March 23, 2010,

Next, are you taking the pledge on questions?

What's in that for me?

The last time you labored this you welshed and called me Adolph for trying to collect, zerointegrity little ****.

 

AI OverviewThe Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

You memory really sucks or you are a *******.
 

What's in that for me?

The last time you labored this you welshed and called me Adolph for trying to collect, zerointegrity little ****.

I have never washed on this, liar.  Mainly because you have never taken the pledge.  The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran.  I remember one time you said if I answer all of your questions first you would answer mine.  When you were done you proclaimed yourself the winner and ran, Snow bunny.

What's in it for you is I will answer your questions on a one for one basis.
 

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am

AI OverviewThe Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

You memory really sucks or you are a *******.

I have never washed on this, liar.  Mainly because you have never taken the pledge.  The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran.  I remember one time you said if I answer all of your questions first you would answer mine.  When you were done you proclaimed yourself the winner and ran, Snow bunny.

What's in it for you is I will answer your questions on a one for one basis.

Health insurance premiums for employer-sponsored family plans jumped a startling 9 percent from 2010 to 2011, and Republicans have blamed the federal health care law. But they exaggerate. The law — the bulk of which has yet to be implemented — has caused only about a 1 percent to 3 percent increase in premiums, according to several independent experts. The rest of the 9 percent rise is due to rising health care costs, as usual.



The Senate Republican Policy Committee touted the Kaiser survey results on its website and added: “In other words, Obamacare isn’t lowering premiums – in fact, premium increases have accelerated since Obamacare passed last year.” The Republican National Committee, too, said that “the costs of family coverage increased a ‘whopping’ 9 percent for families” under a headline that claimed “Obama’s Past Promises Are Not Adding Up for American Families.” The House Energy and Commerce Committee, chaired by Republican Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, said that “Obamacare … makes matters worse. The survey released today reveals family premiums have increased by 9 percent.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/factc ... -premiums/


Two guesses what FOX was telling you to believe....

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am

AI OverviewThe Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

You memory really sucks or you are a *******.

I have never washed on this, liar.  Mainly because you have never taken the pledge.  The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran.  I remember one time you said if I answer all of your questions first you would answer mine.  When you were done you proclaimed yourself the winner and ran, Snow bunny.

What's in it for you is I will answer your questions on a one for one basis.

I have never washed on this, liar.

viewtopic.php?p=2854439#p2854439


Admit that you're a liar.

Mainly because you have never taken the pledge. The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran. I remember

Speaks for itself.

Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:20 am

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:15 am

AI OverviewThe Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

You memory really sucks or you are a *******.

I have never washed on this, liar.  Mainly because you have never taken the pledge.  The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran.  I remember one time you said if I answer all of your questions first you would answer mine.  When you were done you proclaimed yourself the winner and ran, Snow bunny.

What's in it for you is I will answer your questions on a one for one basis.

Health insurance premiums for employer-sponsored family plans jumped a startling 9 percent from 2010 to 2011, and Republicans have blamed the federal health care law. But they exaggerate. The law — the bulk of which has yet to be implemented — has caused only about a 1 percent to 3 percent increase in premiums, according to several independent experts. The rest of the 9 percent rise is due to rising health care costs, as usual.



The Senate Republican Policy Committee touted the Kaiser survey results on its website and added: “In other words, Obamacare isn’t lowering premiums – in fact, premium increases have accelerated since Obamacare passed last year.” The Republican National Committee, too, said that “the costs of family coverage increased a ‘whopping’ 9 percent for families” under a headline that claimed “Obama’s Past Promises Are Not Adding Up for American Families.” The House Energy and Commerce Committee, chaired by Republican Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan, said that “Obamacare … makes matters worse. The survey released today reveals family premiums have increased by 9 percent.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2011/10/factc ... -premiums/


Two guesses what FOX was telling you to believe....

 

While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:28 am

While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

Tiny,

The law was already affecting prices in 2011....as unambiguously demonstrated. 

You can't even recall what you were being told to believe..
 

Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:32 am

Tiny,

The law was already affecting prices in 2011....as unambiguously demonstrated. 

You can't even recall what you were being told to believe..

Dum Dum, things like the mandate what coverage you had to have to did not become effective until 2014 I believe my pay stubbs and news:


AI OverviewMost major provisions of the 
Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), including the individual mandate to have insurance, guaranteed issue for pre-existing conditions, and the launch of health insurance marketplaces, took effect on January 1, 2014. While signed in 2010, the core, comprehensive requirements for individuals and insurers were fully implemented by this date.

You are really embarrassing yourself, idiot.

Prior to 2014 I was in the VA system and did not have to have insurance.  But my wife had a very small group plan that did not include many of the provisions of Obamacare and she lost it. She could keep the plan she liked.  She did not need or have to carry things like maternity, pediatric care, birth, psychiatric, etc etc etc because she could no longer have children.  Jan 17th, 2014 was the first full payment for insurance.  For me ad the wife it was $167.77.  It has gone up every year since and I now pay 296.50.

I think YOU need to stop believing what you are told to believe, Snow Bunny.  Remember moron, this was sold as saving money for the individuals and the country.  It hasn't.  Yes, it was a boondoggle.
 
 

Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:32 am

Tiny,

The law was already affecting prices in 2011....as unambiguously demonstrated. 

You can't even recall what you were being told to believe..

You asked the same question that was already anserwed.  And you NEVER took the pledge nor did you explain the burden in detail.  

I am gonna fix this right now.

Lazy Dems want everything done for them. Cut the budget in half, at least. Get rid of the fraud and do **** for yourself. I don't want stupid Dems spending MY money.

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:44 am

You asked the same question that was already anserwed.  And you NEVER took the pledge nor did you explain the burden in detail.  

I am gonna fix this right now.

It was never answered.

Then you tried to pawn off some unresponsive crap.

You have no integrity.
 

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

It was never answered.

Then you tried to pawn off some unresponsive crap.

You have no integrity.

But you never too the pledge.  And you NEVER specified what the burdens were. It was answered.  It is the same exact burdens for everyone.  It is more of a burden than it is to not have one.  You can't travel by air or rail.  Technically you can't buy alcohol, tobacco, open a checking account, etc etc etc.

If you go to the thread I started (you were tagged) and take the pledge all of this BS would be over.

If you JUST get rid of ALL the FRAUD, CORRUPTION, WASTE and ABUSE... INCORPOREATED into the Federal budget by Democrats recently... you could EASILY cover THAT !

Do you realize how much FRAUD & WASTE can be attributed to JUST the Obamacare FIASO?  The payments go DIRECTLY to the Healthcare Providers, and if people don't use it... THE PROVIDERS don't give it back... they just use it to PAD their PROFITS !

Over the last 15 years... those Healthcare Providers stock prices have EXPLODED over 1200% (that's 80% per year...on average)... GO AHEAD... LOOK IT UP !!  The CORRUPTION IN JUST THAT is HUGE... and a BLIND man could see it... BUT, the Democrat Party can NOT ?  

YOU ONLY have to LOOK !!

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:43 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:43 am

Dum Dum, things like the mandate what coverage you had to have to did not become effective until 2014 I believe my pay stubbs and news:


 

But no one can see them.

We CAN see the evidence I presented. 

Blackvegetable » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

But no one can see them.

We CAN see the evidence I presented.

you presented ****

Huey » Today, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:15 am

AI OverviewThe Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. While the law was enacted in 2010, its major provisions—including the health insurance marketplaces, subsidies, and Medicaid expansion—were implemented on January 1, 2014

You memory really sucks or you are a *******.

I have never washed on this, liar.  Mainly because you have never taken the pledge.  The few times you did it on a limited one topic basis you ran.  I remember one time you said if I answer all of your questions first you would answer mine.  When you were done you proclaimed yourself the winner and ran, Snow bunny.

What's in it for you is I will answer your questions on a one for one basis.

Since you’re officially the “math genius”…does this mean brown’s the “innumerate one?   
 

ROG62 » 22 Feb 2026, 2:22 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 2:22 pm

Since you’re officially the “math genius”…does this mean brown’s the “innumerate one? 

He was wrong.....again.



 

ConservativeWave » 22 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 1:05 pm

If you JUST get rid of ALL the FRAUD, CORRUPTION, WASTE and ABUSE... INCORPOREATED into the Federal budget by Democrats recently... you could EASILY cover THAT !

Do you realize how much FRAUD & WASTE can be attributed to JUST the Obamacare FIASO?  The payments go DIRECTLY to the Healthcare Providers, and if people don't use it... THE PROVIDERS don't give it back... they just use it to PAD their PROFITS !

Over the last 15 years... those Healthcare Providers stock prices have EXPLODED over 1200% (that's 80% per year...on average)... GO AHEAD... LOOK IT UP !!  The CORRUPTION IN JUST THAT is HUGE... and a BLIND man could see it... BUT, the Democrat Party can NOT ?  

YOU ONLY have to LOOK !!

Do you realize how much FRAUD & WASTE can be attributed to JUST the Obamacare FIASO?  

Post it.

With a source.

Huey » 22 Feb 2026, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 11:44 am

You asked the same question that was already anserwed.  And you NEVER took the pledge nor did you explain the burden in detail.  

I am gonna fix this right now.

Pivot.

Blackvegetable » 22 Feb 2026, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

22 Feb 2026, 9:15 am

Let me explain something fundamental to you, Princess..

Fraud is everpresent in any financial endeavor managed by human beings.

It is a cost of doing business.

But, like everything else, the effort to control fraud is not without cost...accordingly, adults grasp that you cannot eliminate it.

Interest free loans are fraudulent? who knew, master financier?