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Attrition. 

That is how. Iran knows that it cannot beat us in a head-to-head fight. Impossible. However, it is being said, by military experts, that Iran has been preparing for war against the US for the past 20 years. They studied our tactics in Afghanistan and Iraq. While we were bombing the **** out of those countries, Iran was sitting back taking notes. They saw our limitations in the Middle East terrain. Instead of spending millions on building fighter jets and fancy machinery, they decided to build a countless stockpile of ballistic missiles, and they built devastating drones that only cost them 10k, as opposed to our million-dollar ones. They don't need to demolish us. They just need to drag out the war long enough until we decide that the cost to continue is no longer worth it. Then we pull out and they win. 

They know about our missile defense system and Israel's Iron dome. However, if they send hundreds of ballistics at a time, then eventually at least 3 or 4 will get through. That is enough to take out our radar systems and cause damage to Israel. They also have the ability to cut off the Strait of Hormuz. About 20% of the world oil supply go through there. If Iran cuts that off, then that will inflict serious damage to the global oil supply. So now America will need to answer to the rest of the world as to why the world's gas prices have skyrocketed. 

I wonder how much thought our government put into Iran's strategy before we let loose on them. Prepare for another expensive and looooooong war. 
 
 

Vegas » Today, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:47 am

Attrition. 

That is how. Iran knows that it cannot beat us in a head-to-head fight. Impossible. However, it is being said, by military experts, that Iran has been preparing for war against the US for the past 20 years. They studied our tactics in Afghanistan and Iraq. While we were bombing the **** out of those countries, Iran was sitting back taking notes. They saw our limitations in the Middle East terrain. Instead of spending millions on building fighter jets and fancy machinery, they decided to build a countless stockpile of ballistic missiles, and they built devastating drones that only cost them 10k, as opposed to our million-dollar ones. They don't need to demolish us. They just need to drag out the war long enough until we decide that the cost to continue is no longer worth it. Then we pull out and they win. 

They know about our missile defense system and Israel's Iron dome. However, if they send hundreds of ballistics at a time, then eventually at least 3 or 4 will get through. That is enough to take out our radar systems and cause damage to Israel. They also have the ability to cut off the Strait of Hormuz. About 20% of the world oil supply go through there. If Iran cuts that off, then that will inflict serious damage to the global oil supply. So now America will need to answer to the rest of the world as to why the world's gas prices have skyrocketed. 

I wonder how much thought our government put into Iran's strategy before we let loose on them. Prepare for another expensive and looooooong war.

+ this is a RELIGIOUS war and we all can remember suicide bombers
BFADMAF I like your style Grasshopper!         

I will make it to Nevada and treat you and the family to a "5*" meal my treat.
These dumb mother **** are "in trouble"       

*Roshambo » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

+ this is a RELIGIOUS war and we all can remember suicide bombers
BFADMAF I like your style Grasshopper!         

I will make it to Nevada and treat you and the family to a "5*" meal my treat.
These dumb mother **** are "in trouble"     

You bet. I would love to meet you. Come on down to my beloved city where sin is 24 hrs and corruption never rests.       

Vegas » Today, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:47 am

Attrition. 

That is how. Iran knows that it cannot beat us in a head-to-head fight. Impossible. However, it is being said, by military experts, that Iran has been preparing for war against the US for the past 20 years. They studied our tactics in Afghanistan and Iraq. While we were bombing the **** out of those countries, Iran was sitting back taking notes. They saw our limitations in the Middle East terrain. Instead of spending millions on building fighter jets and fancy machinery, they decided to build a countless stockpile of ballistic missiles, and they built devastating drones that only cost them 10k, as opposed to our million-dollar ones. They don't need to demolish us. They just need to drag out the war long enough until we decide that the cost to continue is no longer worth it. Then we pull out and they win. 

They know about our missile defense system and Israel's Iron dome. However, if they send hundreds of ballistics at a time, then eventually at least 3 or 4 will get through. That is enough to take out our radar systems and cause damage to Israel. They also have the ability to cut off the Strait of Hormuz. About 20% of the world oil supply go through there. If Iran cuts that off, then that will inflict serious damage to the global oil supply. So now America will need to answer to the rest of the world as to why the world's gas prices have skyrocketed. 

I wonder how much thought our government put into Iran's strategy before we let loose on them. Prepare for another expensive and looooooong war.

Warfare has changed dramatically since Iraq…one really can’t compare Iraq and Afghanistan…

They’ll continue to bombard until all military, leadership, nuke, munitions, aircraft and missile launch sites are off the map…the missiles could be an issue depending on where they are and how much military is left to keep mobile…

ROG62 » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

Warfare has changed dramatically since Iraq…one really can’t compare Iraq and Afghanistan…

They’ll continue to bombard until all military, leadership, nuke, munitions, aircraft and missile launch sites are off the map…the missiles could be an issue depending on where they are and how much military is left to keep mobile…

Apparently, Iran's missile bases are all over the desert strategically placed. We know where some are, but they spent 20 yrs manufacturing missiles that it would be impossible to destroy all of them. 

Vegas » 11 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

11 minutes ago

Apparently, Iran's missile bases are all over the desert strategically placed. We know where some are, but they spent 20 yrs manufacturing missiles that it would be impossible to destroy all of them.

Why are you so sure of that?

DeezerShoove » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

Why are you so sure of that?

It's just the info I get from my people on the ground. Their identity is undercover. They don't they exist. They are phantoms. For your safety, I cannot say any more than that. 

Also, I was reading public articles about it.


 

Vegas » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

It's just the info I get from my people on the ground. Their identity is undercover. They don't they exist. They are phantoms. For your safety, I cannot say any more than that. 

Also, I was reading public articles about it.

Ballistic missiles require expert regular maintenance. They may have crammed a few in hidden places and we'll never find them if they are left alone to rot in a hole. Then again, at launch time who's to say how reliable they are if the systems fail?
So, we watch for the missile janitors to go to work...  

Iran has no plans, just like they have no leader. You’re giving Iran more power than it actually has. Their whole strategy is built around deterrence, not “winning a long war.” They can fire missiles, cause chaos, and make headlines. But, they can’t sustain a real fight, can’t keep the Strait closed, can’t replace losses, and can’t outlast a country with a global logistics network and overwhelming industrial capacity.This idea that they’d “drag out the war until we quit” only works on social media. In the real world, Iran struggles to keep its own economy running in peacetime. A prolonged war isn’t a strategy for them, it’s national suicide. TRUMP will allow ISRAEL to make sure Iran is completely done. Israel will 

DeezerShoove » 18 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

18 minutes ago

Ballistic missiles require expert regular maintenance. They may have crammed a few in hidden places and we'll never find them if they are left alone to rot in a hole. Then again, at launch time who's to say how reliable they are if the systems fail?
So, we watch for the missile janitors to go to work...

You are probably right. It wouldn't be the first time I got misinformation from **** sources. 

But my people on the ground are reliable. They come from good stock. Shepherds, farmers, and goat **** are always reliable.

MR-7 » 35 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

35 minutes ago

Iran has no plans, just like they have no leader. You’re giving Iran more power than it actually has. Their whole strategy is built around deterrence, not “winning a long war.” They can fire missiles, cause chaos, and make headlines. But, they can’t sustain a real fight, can’t keep the Strait closed, can’t replace losses, and can’t outlast a country with a global logistics network and overwhelming industrial capacity.This idea that they’d “drag out the war until we quit” only works on social media. In the real world, Iran struggles to keep its own economy running in peacetime. A prolonged war isn’t a strategy for them, it’s national suicide. TRUMP will allow ISRAEL to make sure Iran is completely done. Israel will

Everything you said about Iran applied to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war. We were there fighting for over 10 years. We won almost every battle. However, we called it quits because though we were winning the battles, we weren't winning the war. Consequently, North Vietnam won.  

Vegas » 18 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

18 minutes ago

Everything you said about Iran applied to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war. We were there fighting for over 10 years. We won almost every battle. However, we called it quits because though we were winning the battles, we weren't winning the war. Consequently, North Vietnam won.

Vietnam isn’t a code for understanding every conflict. North Vietnam had two things Iran doesn’t: a superpower pumping in unlimited weapons and money, and a population willing to absorb catastrophic losses for decades. Iran has neither.

The U.S. didn’t leave Vietnam because Hanoi “out‑strategized” us, we left because it was a guerrilla war in someone else’s backyard with no strategic payoff. Iran isn’t a jungle insurgency. It’s a state with fixed infrastructure, mapped bases, limited industry, and an economy that collapses the moment a real war starts.

Trying to compare Iran to North Vietnam is like comparing a regional power with a fragile economy to a nation backed by the Soviet Union and China at the height of the Cold War. It just doesn’t translate.
 

MR-7 » 15 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

15 minutes ago

Vietnam isn’t a code for understanding every conflict. North Vietnam had two things Iran doesn’t: a superpower pumping in unlimited weapons and money, and a population willing to absorb catastrophic losses for decades. Iran has neither.

The U.S. didn’t leave Vietnam because Hanoi “out‑strategized” us, we left because it was a guerrilla war in someone else’s backyard with no strategic payoff. Iran isn’t a jungle insurgency. It’s a state with fixed infrastructure, mapped bases, limited industry, and an economy that collapses the moment a real war starts.

Trying to compare Iran to North Vietnam is like comparing a regional power with a fragile economy to a nation backed by the Soviet Union and China at the height of the Cold War. It just doesn’t translate.

Good points. Very true. My point is that we shouldn't underestimate any country that is willing to drag out a war at any costs if means victory for them. They are concerned about their regime staying in power (though their top leaders are dead, their Islamic ideology is still alive and well) than they do about protecting their population. They shot and killed approximately 7k + protestors. Their civilians are expendable in their eyes. So, they are willing to take losses from their own people. They have a navy and a fragile AirForce. However, their strength comes from their missiles. They already go several missiles through Israel's Iron dome and was able to kill some of our serviceman. Like I said in the OP. They don't need every missile to land. They just need a handful of the hundreds they shoot over to hit their target. 

Vegas » Today, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:06 pm

Apparently, Iran's missile bases are all over the desert strategically placed. We know where some are, but they spent 20 yrs manufacturing missiles that it would be impossible to destroy all of them.

carpet bomb the desert 

Vegas » Today, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:43 pm

You are probably right. It wouldn't be the first time I got misinformation from **** sources. 

But my people on the ground are reliable. They come from good stock. Shepherds, farmers, and goat **** are always reliable.

I seem to recall some very hilarious videos of goat **** setting up IED's with a miscue here and there.
Nothing like a bomb sized for an armored vehicle going boom in a guy's face.

Those goat **** will do anything for a laugh...

Vegas » Today, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:47 am

Attrition. 

That is how. Iran knows that it cannot beat us in a head-to-head fight. Impossible. However, it is being said, by military experts, that Iran has been preparing for war against the US for the past 20 years. They studied our tactics in Afghanistan and Iraq. While we were bombing the **** out of those countries, Iran was sitting back taking notes. They saw our limitations in the Middle East terrain. Instead of spending millions on building fighter jets and fancy machinery, they decided to build a countless stockpile of ballistic missiles, and they built devastating drones that only cost them 10k, as opposed to our million-dollar ones. They don't need to demolish us. They just need to drag out the war long enough until we decide that the cost to continue is no longer worth it. Then we pull out and they win. 

They know about our missile defense system and Israel's Iron dome. However, if they send hundreds of ballistics at a time, then eventually at least 3 or 4 will get through. That is enough to take out our radar systems and cause damage to Israel. They also have the ability to cut off the Strait of Hormuz. About 20% of the world oil supply go through there. If Iran cuts that off, then that will inflict serious damage to the global oil supply. So now America will need to answer to the rest of the world as to why the world's gas prices have skyrocketed. 

I wonder how much thought our government put into Iran's strategy before we let loose on them. Prepare for another expensive and looooooong war.

Unlike Vietnam when the [[[JWO]]] was against us.and for the Communists..the [[[JWO]]] has a vested interest in seeing to it that their war with Iran works out well for [[[JEWMERICA]]]  
 

Vegas » Today, 1:09 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:09 pm

Everything you said about Iran applied to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war. We were there fighting for over 10 years. We won almost every battle. However, we called it quits because though we were winning the battles, we weren't winning the war. Consequently, North Vietnam won.

There is no North Iran.

Vegas » Today, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:39 pm

Good points. Very true. My point is that we shouldn't underestimate any country that is willing to drag out a war at any costs if means victory for them. They are concerned about their regime staying in power (though their top leaders are dead, their Islamic ideology is still alive and well) than they do about protecting their population. They shot and killed approximately 7k + protestors. Their civilians are expendable in their eyes. So, they are willing to take losses from their own people. They have a navy and a fragile AirForce. However, their strength comes from their missiles. They already go several missiles through Israel's Iron dome and was able to kill some of our serviceman. Like I said in the OP. They don't need every missile to land. They just need a handful of the hundreds they shoot over to hit their target.

Trump says war against Iran is 'very complete,' CBS News "I think the war is very complete, pretty much. They have no navy, no communications, they’ve got no Air Force," Trump told CBS News. 

When asked about the Strait of Hormuz, Trump said that ships are moving through now, but he is "thinking about taking it over." We are gonna take it over Vegas. Israel will make sure of it.

Yes Sir....America is back. 
 

DeezerShoove » 41 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

41 minutes ago

There is no North Iran.

Yes, I know. But there was a North Vietnam. 

Vegas » Today, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:39 pm

Good points. Very true. My point is that we shouldn't underestimate any country that is willing to drag out a war at any costs if means victory for them. They are concerned about their regime staying in power (though their top leaders are dead, their Islamic ideology is still alive and well) than they do about protecting their population. They shot and killed approximately 7k + protestors. Their civilians are expendable in their eyes. So, they are willing to take losses from their own people. They have a navy and a fragile AirForce. However, their strength comes from their missiles. They already go several missiles through Israel's Iron dome and was able to kill some of our serviceman. Like I said in the OP. They don't need every missile to land. They just need a handful of the hundreds they shoot over to hit their target.

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We are taking the Island Vegas. We should give it to Israel.