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MR-7 » 18 Mar 2026, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 8:30 am

NATO has not been attacked by Putin. Yet, they asked TRUMP for help, 

Show me NATO asking.

Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2026, 3:03 pm

Not an invasion. It was sat-pretty for.

It was a poodle getting a treat after a dance. How was it that the EU put it? Oh, yeah - go **** yourself.

I could not possibly give less of a **** how the clown punishes the other clowns. Europe is all set for a pimp slap, too. Maybe not QUITE as bad as the pimp slap trumpypoo is getting from Iran while the world watches, but a pretty serious one.,

Oh, so now you've decided that NATO ONLY has to respond to an invasion?
Not ballistic missiles fired at our embassies?
Not terrorist attacks?
Not bombing our military bases?
How about a nuclear bomb hitting us, you ignorant buffoon?  Is THAT an invasion?

You **** liberal idiots haven't used your miniscule brains since Trump got elected, have you?
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Mar 2026, 2:50 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2026, 2:50 pm

30 years late is better than never. NATO is nothing but a beard for global mischief by the US Empire.

Well then, you should be delighted to hear how Trump cuts US funding for them to express his anger over their weakness.
But you won't be, will you?
No, you'll bitch and complain even louder because just like every other empty-headed liberal, your insane TDS is the only thing that drives you!
Stupidity at the level you possess doesn't need to pass through your brain.  
It's fired from your ignorant face as such a rate of speed that your asshole gets jealous of how much **** comes from your mouth!
 

Blackvegetable » 18 Mar 2026, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 8:53 am

Show me NATO asking.

I already did. Why would I do it again?
 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2026, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 9:07 am

Stupidity at the level you possess doesn't need to pass through your brain.  
It's fired from your ignorant face as such a rate of speed that your asshole gets jealous of how much **** comes from your mouth!

    Thanks for the laugh!
 

MR-7 » 18 Mar 2026, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 9:12 am

I already did. Why would I do it again?

The purpose was to advance efforts to support Ukraine’s defense against Russian aggression.

We were already doing so as a matter of policy.


Note that NATO is not involved in the conflict.

Individual members are CHOOSING to co tribute.

Rutte publicly praised Trump’s “pivotal decision” to ensure Ukraine receives essential military resources. 

 To stop **** up.
 

NATO emphasized that the U.S. role is central, with Europe and Canada coordinating funding and production.

a continuation of an EXISTING POLICY.

huh?

Can't wait till we own Cuba.   

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Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2026, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Mar 2026, 1:02 pm

Because the straight of hormuz is in the north atlantic, and they are in the north atlantic treaty organizatiuon.

Edit - I just checked my risk-board map. My information was not correct.

So genius, is Turkey in the north atlantic?
No?
So how come they're a NATO member?
 

Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Mar 2026, 2:56 pm

If asked, by a signatory under attack.

That has nothing to do with being cajoled into joining Grifty's Folly.

Hasn't Iran also fired missiles at the US Embassy in Baghdad, asshole?
Isn't THAT sovereign US territory?
And hasn't Trump ASKED the other NATO countries for help in the strait?
And aren't NATO members OBLIGATED TO HELP when asked?

Yet you'll be the first liberal idiot to squeal like a pig when Trump decides to cut the amount of US support that goes to NATO by 50% or so!
 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm

Hasn't Iran also fired missiles at the US Embassy in Baghdad, asshole?
Isn't THAT sovereign US territory?
And hasn't Trump ASKED the other NATO countries for help in the strait?
And aren't NATO members OBLIGATED TO HELP when asked?

Yet you'll be the first liberal idiot to squeal like a pig when Trump decides to cut the amount of US support that goes to NATO by 50% or so!

He can start cutting with japan, germany, france, belgium, portugal, and italy. 
 

MR-7 » 18 Mar 2026, 12:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 12:16 pm

He can start cutting with japan, germany, france, belgium, portugal, and italy.

Just cutting the amount the US provides to NATO will send them ALL the message they need to hear!
 

ROG62 » 16 Mar 2026, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

16 Mar 2026, 9:13 am

I told johnny I figured it was a “who’s on our side loyalty” test…


 

He has played them ROG....just like he did when he asked people to "Stand up if you believe protecting Americans — not illegal aliens — is the government’s first duty." 

Now, he asked NATO to help secure the strait. He told them...it's your oil, your ships. He has now shown that japan, germany, france, belgium, portugal, and italy are not willing to help secure by escorting their own ships. 

 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm

Hasn't Iran also fired missiles at the US Embassy in Baghdad, asshole?
Isn't THAT sovereign US territory?
And hasn't Trump ASKED the other NATO countries for help in the strait?
And aren't NATO members OBLIGATED TO HELP when asked?

Yet you'll be the first liberal idiot to squeal like a pig when Trump decides to cut the amount of US support that goes to NATO by 50% or so!

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

No.
 

DeezerShoove » 16 Mar 2026, 10:58 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Mar 2026, 10:58 pm

Let it die already.
It's become as useless as the EU.

nato was formed  in case a country was attacked, it was not formed so a country could attack another country and then want protection and assistance.

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 12:01 pm

Hasn't Iran also fired missiles at the US Embassy in Baghdad, asshole?
Isn't THAT sovereign US territory?
And hasn't Trump ASKED the other NATO countries for help in the strait?
And aren't NATO members OBLIGATED TO HELP when asked?

Yet you'll be the first liberal idiot to squeal like a pig when Trump decides to cut the amount of US support that goes to NATO by 50% or so!

trump started this crap.


If a North Atlantic Treaty Organization member is attacked, NATO considers it an attack on all members under Article 5, triggering a collective defense response. Allies commit to assisting the attacked party through necessary actions—including armed force—to restore security. The response is determined by each member individually, ranging from military action to sanctions

Blackvegetable » 18 Mar 2026, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 1:12 pm

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

No.

Not bad!  
You actually got 3 out of 4 correct, but fail because you're too dumb to know that members ARE OBLIGATED to assist when one member is attacked!
Read this, imbecile:

Yes, NATO member countries are obligated to assist one another if an armed attack occurs, as stated in Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty. This obligation means that an attack on one member is considered an attack on all members, prompting a collective response, which may include military action or other forms of support.

A comparative analysis of Article 5 Washington Treaty (NATO) and Article 42(7) TEU (EU) 
Article 42(7) Treaty on European Union If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with article 51 of the United Nations charter. 
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 1:33 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 1:33 pm

trump started this crap.

If a North Atlantic Treaty Organization member is attacked, NATO considers it an attack on all members under Article 5, triggering a collective defense response. Allies commit to assisting the attacked party through necessary actions—including armed force—to restore security. The response is determined by each member individually, ranging from military action to sanctions

Oh really?  Who was it that kidnapped 66 Americans when they attacked the US Embassy and held them hostage for over a year, dickbrain?
Need more proof that we've been attacked by Iran dozens of times over the last 50 years?
Here, stupid.  Educate yourself!:

April 1983 A suicide car bombing kills 63 people, including 17 Americans, at the US Embassy in Beirut.
October 1983 Operatives of the Iran-backed Hezbollah drive a truck bomb at a Marine compound in Beirut killing 220 U.S. Marines and 21 other service personnel.
December 1983 Hezbollah operatives drive an explosives-filled dump truck through the gates of the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait City.
December 1984 Hezbollah terrorists hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221 from Kuwait to Pakistan and divert it to Tehran, killing 2 American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development.
July 1989 Hezbollah operatives kill US Marine Corps Col. William Higgins after kidnapping him the previous year while on a United Nations peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon.
April 1995 An explosives-laden van crashes into a bus near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip, killing one American and 7 Israelis. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claims responsibility. 
August 1995 A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a bus in the Ramat Eshkol neighborhood of Jerusalem, killing an American and three other passengers and wounding more than 100.
February 1996 A Hamas suicide bomber blows up a Jerusalem bus, killing 3 Americans and wounding 3 other Americans. A total of 26 people die in the attack.
March 1996 A suicide bomber blows up the Dizengoff shopping center in Tel Aviv, wounding two Americans. Twenty people die and 75 others are injured in the attack. Both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.
May 1996 Gunmen kill an American-Israeli dual citizen in the community of Beit El in the West Bank. Another US citizen and three Israelis are wounded. No group claims responsibility, but Israel suspects Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
June 1996 A truck carrying 5,000 pounds of explosives blows up the Khobar Towers
September 1997 Three Hamas suicide bombers blow themselves up at the Ben Yehuda shopping mall in Jerusalem, killing a US-Israeli dual citizen and wounding 7 other American citizens. 
August 1998 With the assistance of Hezbollah, al Qaeda suicide bombers almost simultaneously blow up the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224 people, including 12 Americans, and wounding thousands.
August 2001 A Hamas suicide bomber blows up the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem, killing a US-Israeli dual citizen and two other Americans. 
January 2002 Gunmen affiliated with the Iran-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade kill a US-Israel dual citizen and wound another individual in the West Bank community of Beit Sahur.
July 2002 A bomb planted by a Hamas terrorist kills 5 Americans at Jerusalem’s Hebrew University, killing five American students


 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2026, 1:43 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 1:43 pm

Not bad!  
You actually got 3 out of 4 correct, but fail because you're too dumb to know that members ARE OBLIGATED to assist when one member is attacked!
Read this, imbecile:

Yes, NATO member countries are obligated to assist one another if an armed attack occurs, as stated in Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty. This obligation means that an attack on one member is considered an attack on all members, prompting a collective response, which may include military action or other forms of support.

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members ARE OBLIGATED to assist when one member is attacked!

Not if that attack is a response to a member nation's aggression.

You **** idiot.

Blackvegetable » 18 Mar 2026, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2026, 2:06 pm

Not if that attack is a response to a member nation's aggression.

You **** idiot.

Iran is not a member.....i thougjt for sure you knew that.....being a member aficionado and all.