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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 4:49 pm » wrote: "A" country . . . ?

Wrong. THE country was Soviet Union.
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Defensive Trigger Only: Article 5 is only triggered if a NATO member is the victim of an "armed attack". If a member country attacks first, other members are not legally obligated to assist.
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 4:49 pm » wrote: "A" country . . . ?

Wrong. THE country was Soviet Union.
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If a North Atlantic Treaty Organization member is attacked, NATO considers it an attack on all members under Article 5, triggering a collective defense response. Allies commit to assisting the attacked party through necessary actions—including armed force—to restore security. The response is determined by each member individually, ranging from military action to sanctions
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 6:17 pm » wrote: ===========
If a North Atlantic Treaty Organization member is attacked, NATO considers it an attack on all members under Article 5, triggering a collective defense response. Allies commit to assisting the attacked party through necessary actions—including armed force—to restore security. The response is determined by each member individually, ranging from military action to sanctions

The reason it was formed is as I said. The rules of engagement came after.
Look at your own post to which I responded.

Chatroom people are such **** weenies sometimes. :wave:  
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 6:28 pm » wrote: The reason it was formed is as I said. The rules of engagement came after.
Look at your own post to which I responded.

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I never mentioned why it was formed,
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 6:33 pm » wrote: I never mentioned why it was formed,

****' tards... :rofl:  


Post #135 (yours):

"nato was formed  in case a country was attacked, it was not formed so a country could attack another country and then want protection and assistance."
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 6:36 pm » wrote: ****' tards... Image  

Post #135 (yours):

"nato was formed  in case a country was attacked, it was not formed so a country could attack another country and then want protection and assistance."

where did I say attacked by any country?
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 6:38 pm » wrote: where did I say attacked by any country?

I never claimed you did. I just knew WHY it was formed in the first place.
You obviously did not. You keep fighting to win this stupid snit.
Go ahead. "WIN!" yay... . . . zzz

Read your own posts . . . ****' 'ell.

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An adult would've said,
"The Soviet Empire is why NATO was deemed necessary? Thanks, I didn't know that."
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JohnnyYou » 18 Mar 2026, 5:50 am » wrote: @Cannonpointer   has pointed out our aircraft carriers had to go to the repair shop.  Ya can't do aircraft ops in port. Not that anyone needs 30 million dollar airplanes anymore.  Cheap Azz drones do the job.

Just don't Hegseth about it and drink a half gallon of Jack Daniel's.. They need to make up for lost Canadian revenue.

Is it Most Excellent your family has redacted you from the tree?  MAGA will end up in exile growing rocks in Greenland.

I really fear Dementia Donald will Nuke California and Blame it on Iran..  He is running out of perversions of diversions and distractions and the mid terms are coming in like a drag racer.
You are one of the most STUPID **** stains here! Your cum filled *** needs to be locked up!
 
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 8:03 pm » wrote: I never claimed you did. I just knew WHY it was formed in the first place.
You obviously did not. You keep fighting to win this stupid snit.
Go ahead. "WIN!" yay... . . . zzz

Read your own posts . . . ****' 'ell.

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An adult would've said,
"The Soviet Empire is why NATO was deemed necessary? Thanks, I didn't know that."

**** I always knew it was about russia. you are making things up.
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 8:03 pm » wrote: I never claimed you did. I just knew WHY it was formed in the first place.
You obviously did not. You keep fighting to win this stupid snit.
Go ahead. "WIN!" yay... . . . zzz

Read your own posts . . . ****' 'ell.

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An adult would've said,
"The Soviet Empire is why NATO was deemed necessary? Thanks, I didn't know that."

russia has  nothing to with what is happening now with iran.

I did not give a history lesson

 
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Blackvegetable » 18 Mar 2026, 2:38 pm » wrote: Iran is not the aggressor in this instance.

You people are **** idiots.
Are you filing this thread in "Yet Another Beatdown" bookmark
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DeezerShoove » 18 Mar 2026, 6:36 pm » wrote: ****' tards... Image  

Post #135 (yours):

"nato was formed  in case a country was attacked, it was not formed so a country could attack another country and then want protection and assistance."
Which part of that argument is false? It might have been clunky, but it isn't false in its meaning. 

It is a fact that NATO's artical 5 is about assiting in the defense of a member state which is a victim of aggression, and the language unmistakably affirms that alliance members are under no obligation to assist an aggressor who is being answered with violence. 
 
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MR-7 » 16 Mar 2026, 8:35 am » wrote: **** you NATO.....

Trump is doing what they call "hoe checking" and it's about time.

Trump warns NATO faces 'very bad' future if allies do not help secure Strait of Hormuz
Being lied to is not shameful - the shame is on the liar, not his victim.

Letting the lie stand without complaint transfers the shame. You should be ashamed.

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He literally called his ticket the "pro-peace ticket." 
 
 
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MR-7 » 16 Mar 2026, 8:35 am » wrote: **** you NATO.....

Trump is doing what they call "hoe checking" and it's about time.

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There's a hoe in your head where his reign pours in, to keep your mind from wandering.

 
 
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JohnnyYou » 19 Mar 2026, 5:04 am » wrote: There's a hoe in your head where his reign pours in, to keep your mind from wandering.
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The destruction is significant and ongoing, with fires, structural damage, and major operational disruption. This is one of the most consequential attacks on energy infrastructure in decades

Reports describe “molten fireballs and belching smoke” after the strike.

This is not a minor incident—it's a direct hit on the core of Iran’s gas infrastructure

major damage to gas separation units, pipelines, AND condensate handling systems
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 But wait...Iran's leader says we are gonna pay.....He's alive...it's true.
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 4:34 pm » wrote: these would not have happened if america did not bomb iran.

it is called consequences, look it up.
****!
Did we respond when Iran backed Hamas in the Oct. 7th massacre that killed Americans?
Did Iran not have ample opportunity to give up their nuclear ambitions before we started bombing them?

THEY are the ones now dealing with the CONSEQUENCES, you fool!
And those consequences are death to your leaders, and the destruction of your Air Force, your Navy, and your nuclear program, along with the industrial complex in Iran that was manufacturing and developing those missiles, drones, and missile launchers.

So you don't like the "consequences" of paying an extra 50 cents or so for gas for a few weeks?
Even as you didn't utter a word about consequences when the idiots that YOU planted in the White House doubled and even tripled the price of gas in some areas of the country without objections, did you?

Sorry, but you've got ZERO credibility on the issue now. 
So sit back and enjoy your irrelevance, lefty!
 
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jerrab » 18 Mar 2026, 4:31 pm » wrote:  russia might like it if no one protects america anymore.
No doubt they'd LOVE it!

So is it your recommendation that the US drop out of NATO and let Europe deal with Russia alone?
 
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Zeets2 » 19 Mar 2026, 10:09 am » wrote: ****!
Did we respond when Iran backed Hamas in the Oct. 7th massacre that killed Americans?
Did Iran not have ample opportunity to give up their nuclear ambitions before we started bombing them?

THEY are the ones now dealing with the CONSEQUENCES, you fool!
And those consequences are death to your leaders, and the destruction of your Air Force, your Navy, and your nuclear program, along with the industrial complex in Iran that was manufacturing and developing those missiles, drones, and missile launchers.

So you don't like the "consequences" of paying an extra 50 cents or so for gas for a few weeks?
Even as you didn't utter a word about consequences when the idiots that YOU planted in the White House doubled and even tripled the price of gas in some areas of the country without objections, did you?

Sorry, but you've got ZERO credibility on the issue now. 
So sit back and enjoy your irrelevance, lefty!
Excellent reply. jerra is a **** IDIOT.
 
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MR-7 » 19 Mar 2026, 10:15 am » wrote: Excellent reply. jerra is a **** IDIOT.
What difference could we possibly expect from myopic, brain-dead liberals who get all their talking points from CNN and MSBC?
 
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Cannonpointer » 19 Mar 2026, 1:22 am » wrote: Which part of that argument is false? It might have been clunky, but it isn't false in its meaning. 

It is a fact that NATO's artical 5 is about assiting in the defense of a member state which is a victim of aggression, and the language unmistakably affirms that alliance members are under no obligation to assist an aggressor who is being answered with violence.
NATO was formed distinctly because of feared Soviet expansion.
Her simplistic assessment is beyond "clunky".
The impetus behind why there are ANY articles at all (read: reason for NATO's existence) was Soviet Empire.
I stand by what I said.
 
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