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16 Mar 2026 8:35 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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ROG62 » 16 Mar 2026, 9:13 am » wrote: I told johnny I figured it was a “who’s on our side loyalty” test…

here’s an interesting article with a different perspective…

scroll down to ‘The World Weighs in On the New World War’

https://badlands.substack.com/p/badlands-brief-174
"Who's on our side" ya say.

Didn't trump just get through slapping tariffs on europe? Who's on THEIR side?

 Didn't we just **** them out of their cheap russian energy, forcing them to be our customers at three times the price?

Why should they run like *** to open the straight of hormuz, when it being closed puts 20% of the world's petrochem right off their border under desperate conditions, creating a buyer's market?

Please - explain why they would EVER do that.
 
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Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2026, 1:02 pm » wrote: Because the straight of hormuz is in the north atlantic, and they are in the north atlantic treaty organizatiuon.

Edit - I just checked my risk-board map. My information was not correct.
Doesn't mean your assumption wasn't...
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 10:54 am » wrote: Yes....a good deal of it...

But Russia is Russia and Europe is Europe.

The attack on Ukraine is considered a threat to NATO allies proximate to it.
Amazing how stupid you can be when you put your mind to it!

By YOUR idiotic backwards logic that the Ukraine war is a threat to NATO because it's in proximity to NATO members, apparently you're unaware that Turkey is a NATO member and THEY are in proximity with Iran, aren't they?  So why isn't NATO willing to join our war against Iran?

So explain why that's ANY different, moron?
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Mar 2026, 1:35 pm » wrote: Amazing how stupid you can be when you put your mind to it!

By YOUR idiotic backwards logic that the Ukraine war is a threat to NATO because it's in proximity to NATO members, apparently you're unaware that Turkey is a NATO member and THEY are in proximity with Iran, aren't they?  So why isn't NATO willing to join our war against Iran?

So explain why that's ANY different, moron?
Because NATO is premised on DEFENSE.

Grafty chose to attack Iran....NATO is not obliged to follow.
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 1:35 pm » wrote: Doesn't mean your assumption wasn't...
I always make assumptions.

I figure if I can make an *** out of someone else at the low low price of making an *** of myself, it's game on. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2026, 1:01 pm » wrote: I have a question for you. Pretend you are Germany. You just **** outof your cheap oil by the war in Ukraine that the US started by pulling a coup in Ukraine and harrassing Russia with western offensive weapons on its border.

Then Trump **** around in Iran, cause the straight of hormuz to close. And now,m you have 20% of the world's oil stranded off the coast of europe - the perfect conditions for afiresale on cheap energy.

How likely would YOU be to help "fix" this "problem"?

I think that I would see it as a godsend.

RSVP.
Russia started the war by invading Ukraine in 2022. The U.S. did not ‘pull a coup’ in 2014 — that was a Ukrainian uprising after their president rejected an EU deal. NATO did not put offensive weapons on Russia’s border, and Ukraine wasn’t even a NATO member. Germany stopped buying Russian oil because Russia invaded its neighbor, not because the U.S. forced them.
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 10:26 am » wrote: was Europe the aggressor?

You people are so **** g'ddammned stupid
Ukraine sits on stolen land... so yes. 

Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do ya, cocksucker? 
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Mar 2026, 1:35 pm » wrote: Amazing how stupid you can be when you put your mind to it!

By YOUR idiotic backwards logic that the Ukraine war is a threat to NATO because it's in proximity to NATO members, apparently you're unaware that Turkey is a NATO member and THEY are in proximity with Iran, aren't they?  So why isn't NATO willing to join our war against Iran?

So explain why that's ANY different, moron?
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MR-7 » 16 Mar 2026, 1:58 pm » wrote: Russia started the war by invading Ukraine in 2022. The U.S. did not ‘pull a coup’ in 2014 — that was a Ukrainian uprising after their president rejected an EU deal.
Okay, that's not an opinion. That's a flat out lie. You might not be smart enough to know you're lying, but the US has admitted that it manufactured the coup. Here's the audio, child. Hillary Clinton's second in command at State and the (cia agent) Ambassador to Ukraine discussing NOT just the coup, but who they were going to pick as the next rulers of Coupkraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8

You get your own opinions, no matter how stupid. You DON'T get your own facts.
MR-7 » 16 Mar 2026, 1:58 pm » wrote: NATO did not put offensive weapons on Russia’s border, and Ukraine wasn’t even a NATO member. Germany stopped buying Russian oil because Russia invaded its neighbor, not because the U.S. forced them.
Trump has brragged about sending Coupkraine offensive weapons before the Russian invasion. Your abysmal ignorance is now completely established and bonafide.

Now, then. Stop your panty dancing and answer the central question.

IF YOU WERE A EUROPEAN NATION, STUCK BUYING EXPENSIVE PETRO-CHEM, AND YOU HAD 20% OF THE WORLD'S OIL STRANDED JUST OFF OF YOUR SHORES, WOULD YOU

A) DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO UNCLOG THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ, OR
B) START MAKING DEALS, AND LET THE STRAIGHT WORRY ABOUT ITSELF?
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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SouthernFried » 16 Mar 2026, 2:10 pm » wrote: Ukraine sits on stolen land... so yes. 

Don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, do ya, cocksucker?

stolen?

From whom?
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Ukraine took Russian land you **** idiot. 
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Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2026, 2:14 pm » wrote: Okay, that's not an opinion. That's a flat out lie. You might not be smart enough to know you're lying, but the US has admitted that it manufactured the coup. Here's the audio, child. Hillary Clinton's second in command at State and the (cia agent) Ambassador to Ukraine discussing NOT just the coup, but who they were going to pick as the next rulers of Coupkraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8

You get your own opinions, no matter how stupid. You DON'T get your own facts.

Trump has brragged about sending Coupkraine offensive weapons before the Russian invasion. Your abysmal ignorance is now completely established and bonafide.

Now, then. Stop your panty dancing and answer the central question.

IF YOU WERE A EUROPEAN NATION, STUCK BUYING EXPENSIVE PETRO-CHEM, AND YOU HAD 20% OF THE WORLD'S OIL STRANDED JUST OFF OF YOUR SHORES, WOULD YOU

A) DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO UNCLOG THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ, OR
B) START MAKING DEALS, AND LET THE STRAIGHT WORRY ABOUT ITSELF?
The leaked Nuland–Pyatt call was real, but it doesn’t show the U.S. running a coup. It shows the diplomats discussing which Ukrainian politicians they thought would work well together, something diplomats do in every country. The 2014 government change happened because hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians protested for months, the president fled, and parliament voted him out. No foreign military or intelligence operation removed him. 
 
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SouthernFried » 16 Mar 2026, 2:18 pm » wrote: Ukraine took Russian land you **** idiot.

where did you hear this?
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 1:37 pm » wrote: Because NATO is premised on DEFENSE.

Grafty chose to attack Iran....NATO is not obliged to follow.
Boy, you just get more stupid by the minute, don't you?

Are you unaware of the fact that Iran fired missiles at Turkey, a NATO member?
Thankfully, the US missile defense was able to intercept them before they hit, but that is THE US DEFENDING A NATO MEMBER, YOU ASSHOLE!
NATO confirms interception of Iranian missile heading to Turkey 
The Straits Times Mar 13, 2026, 07:37 PM ANKARA – 

NATO on March 13 confirmed its air defences had shot down a third ballistic missile that was fired from Iran towards Turkey.“NATO remains vigilant and stands firm in its defence of all allies,” NATO Spokesperson Allison Hart said.NATO air defences shot down the first Iranian ballistic missile fired at Turkey on March 4, followed by the shooting down of a second Iranian missile on March 9.The Turkish Defence Ministry said the first incoming missile was downed en route to Turkish airspace, while the second entered it. It added that it was asking Tehran for clarification.The missiles increasingly pose a test for NATO member Ankara and the alliance. Turkey, NATO’s second-largest army and Iran’s neighbour, has warned Tehran against any more attacks.
Why is it that I have to spend so much time educating stupid morons like you, CP, and Roshambo?
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Mar 2026, 2:32 pm » wrote: Boy, you just get more stupid by the minute, don't you?

Are you unaware of the fact that Iran fired missiles at Turkey, a NATO member?
Thankfully, the US missile defense was able to intercept them before they hit, but that is THE US DEFENDING A NATO MEMBER, YOU ASSHOLE!

Why is it that I have to spend so much time educating stupid morons like you, CP, and Roshambo?
Then TURKEY can invoke the charter.


**** idiot.


 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 2:35 pm » wrote: Then TURKEY can invoke the charter.

**** idiot.
NATO IS OBLIGATED to respond to an attack on any NATO member you **** moron!
 
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MR-7 » 16 Mar 2026, 8:35 am » wrote: **** you NATO.....

Trump is doing what they call "hoe checking" and it's about time.

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What were once allies are now enemies.

TRUMP DEMENTIA SYNDROME IS REAL!
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
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SouthernFried » 16 Mar 2026, 2:18 pm » wrote: Ukraine took Russian land you **** idiot.
Nyet.
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Zeets2 » 16 Mar 2026, 2:41 pm » wrote: NATO IS OBLIGATED to respond to an attack on any NATO member you **** moron!
If asked, by a signatory under attack.

That has nothing to do with being cajoled into joining Grifty's Folly.
 
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Blackvegetable » 16 Mar 2026, 2:56 pm » wrote: If asked, by a signatory under attack.


 
So, which signatory did Russia. attack?
 
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