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Iran says $270bn war loss must be compensated, as fresh talks with US loom

Sure Iran, we will take that and distribute it to all the damage caused by your proxies in the region, you owe roughly 1.4 trillion dollars.
 

Cannonpointer » 14 Apr 2026, 8:55 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Apr 2026, 8:55 pm

!.5 trillion in weapons purchases is not "nothing," you ignorant ****.

And what makes you think that NATO wouldn't continue buying their weapons from us, even if we pulled out of NATO, you fool?
Where else would they want to buy them from after seeing the way the US military decimated the weapons that Iran bought from Russia and China?

Only a liberal dope like you would possibly think otherwise. 
 

Zeets2 » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

And what makes you think that NATO wouldn't continue buying their weapons from us, even if we pulled out of NATO, you fool?

Being better informed than you.

Whether the US drops NATO or not, NATO is dead already.The trust is gone. The interests are diverged.The EU is fully committed to building its own MIC and is proceeding apace.Whatever **** comes fromyour mouth is irrelevant to the equation.You're a tourist, popping off to a local.

Zeets2 » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

Where else would they want to buy them from after seeing the way the US military decimated the weapons that Iran bought from Russia and China?

Only a liberal dope like you would possibly think otherwise.

Only an uninformed clown like you would think that German and French engineers cannot meet or exceed what the American MIC produces.

And only a complete jackass would be shocked and awed by the US "beating" an economy smaller than Indiana - about tied with Minnesota. And I put "beating" in quotes because the fat lady hasn't sung yet, you heavy breathing, over eager retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTHrJDlFeg

Cannonpointer » 18 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

18 minutes ago

Being better informed than you.

Whether the US drops NATO or not, NATO is dead already.The trust is gone. The interests are diverged.The EU is fully committed to building its own MIC and is proceeding apace.Whatever **** comes fromyour mouth is irrelevant to the equation.You're a tourist, popping off to a local.

Only an uninformed clown like you would think that German and French engineers cannot meet or exceed what the American MIC produces.

And only a complete jackass would be shocked and awed by the US "beating" an economy smaller than Indiana - about tied with Minnesota. And I put "beating" in quotes because the fat lady hasn't sung yet, you heavy breathing, over eager retard.

You don't know ****, asshole, so stop patting your ignorant self on the back!

I'd be OVERJOYED if the US pulled out of NATO, the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum, the World Trade Organization, and even UNICEF and the UN!  All are nothing but useless liberal organizations designed to steal money from the US for their own bloated bureaucracies, while liberal idiots like you actually believe in their value to the US!

What I'm "in awe of " is the ease in which our US military wiped out the inferior weapons provided to Iran by China and Russia, which no doubt has scared the **** out of both of those countries.  I would bet it caused China to scrap any plans they had to take Taiwan back, especially as the US now controls the 50% of Middle Eastern oil they were previously getting, and the loss of half of the oil production that was coming out of Venezuela that amounted to 400,000 barrels PER DAY coming to China from there!

Only liberal dopes like you with your two-dimensional vision can't see the long-term value of Trump's actions in both Venezuela and Iran.

So stay stupid, my friend!      
 

Zeets2 » 22 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

22 minutes ago

You don't know ****, asshole, so stop patting your ignorant self on the back!

I'd be OVERJOYED if the US pulled out of NATO, the World Health Organization, the World Economic Forum, the World Trade Organization, and even UNICEF and the UN!  All are nothing but useless liberal organizations designed to steal money from the US for their own bloated bureaucracies, while liberal idiots like you actually believe in their value to the US!

What I'm "in awe of " is the ease in which our US military wiped out the inferior weapons provided to Iran by China and Russia, which no doubt has scared the **** out of both of those countries.  I would bet it caused China to scrap any plans they had to take Taiwan back, especially as the US now controls the 50% of Middle Eastern oil they were previously getting, and the loss of half of the oil production that was coming out of Venezuela that amounted to 400,000 barrels PER DAY coming to China from there!

Only liberal dopes like you with your two-dimensional vision can't see the long-term value of Trump's actions in both Venezuela and Iran.

So stay stupid, my friend!    

I understand better than you the dynamic of Trump's Venezuela-Iran Hail Marry (or given his tendency to put Israel first, maybe I should say Hail Murray). I donot have the same adolscent, uninformed view of it that you do. 

It is about hamstringing China, but it is about so much more. It's about ending BRICS. And I suspect that Trump fully understands that there would not BE a BRICS, if not for America's persistent abuse of sanctions. If countries cannot trade in dollars, they are forced tofind another way. 

But here we are, and as I understand it, Trump is re-imposing the sanctions on Russian oil - so maybe he either does not understand the genesis of BRICS, ordoes not care because he believes he can have his cake (petro-dollar) and eat it too (prevent nations from trading at allin any sovereign and meaningful way). It's hard to tell what Trump is thinking.

Anyway, these are matters that are off your radar. You're a stupid tourist and a loud-mouthed know-nothing. And the more facts you receive, the more opportunites you have to assess them through stupid and lazy eyes poisoned by filters from a discredited neocon tautology. 

Cannonpointer » 15 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

15 minutes ago

I understand better than you the dynamic of Trump's Venezuela-Iran Hail Marry (or given his tendency to put Israel first, maybe I should say Hail Murray). I donot have the same adolscent, uninformed view of it that you do. 

It is about hamstringing China, but it is about so much more. It's about ending BRICS. And I suspect that Trump fully understands that there would not BE a BRICS, if not for America's persistent abuse of sanctions. If countries cannot trade in dollars, they are forced tofind another way. 

But here we are, and as I understand it, Trump is re-imposing the sanctions on Russian oil - so maybe he either does not understand the genesis of BRICS, ordoes not care because he believes he can have his cake (petro-dollar) and eat it too (prevent nations from trading at allin any sovereign and meaningful way). It's hard to tell what Trump is thinking.

Anyway, these are matters that are off your radar. You're a stupid tourist and a loud-mouthed know-nothing. And the more facts you receive, the more opportunites you have to assess them through stupid and lazy eyes poisoned by filters from a discredited neocon tautology.

Low-brow morons like yourself only THINK you have the integrity or the wisdom to question Trump's successful and desperately needed strategy.  Nor do you understand the fact that the sole economic and military power supremacy of the US DOESN'T NEED TO GIVE A **** about how the remaining tin pot countries of the world choose to circle-jerk themselves inside of any organization that you think could compete with us!

Ignorant liberals like yourself are incapable of understanding the fact that the US holds all the cards, and anyone who wants the US as an ally needs to conform to OUR demands OR WE DON'T NEED THEM!  So stick with your globalist hand-wringing and see where it gets you while the rest of the country actually takes pride in our stature as the world's only superpower as even some liberals far smarter than you are grumbling over Trump's obvious and massive successes!
 

Zeets2 » Today, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:14 am

And what makes you think that NATO wouldn't continue buying their weapons from us, even if we pulled out of NATO, you fool?
Where else would they want to buy them from after seeing the way the US military decimated the weapons that Iran bought from Russia and China?

Only a liberal dope like you would possibly think otherwise.

You nailed that Zeets2.....russia's weapon's systems are no match for Americas. 

Anybody know how many "mines" Iran put out? We haven't found any.
Were the **** bluffing? We'll see soon enough.

 
 

MR-7 » Today, 10:29 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:29 am

You nailed that Zeets2.....russia's weapon's systems are no match for Americas.

And now the whole world knows it, including Russia themselves and China.  As well as Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, ISIS, and any other country like Lebanon who has permitted Muslim terrorists to overtake their countries.
 

Zeets2 » Today, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:15 am

Low-brow morons like yourself only THINK you have the integrity or the wisdom to question Trump's successful and desperately needed strategy.  Nor do you understand the fact that the sole economic and military power supremacy of the US DOESN'T NEED TO GIVE A **** about how the remaining tin pot countries of the world choose to circle-jerk themselves inside of any organization that you think could compete with us!

Ignorant liberals like yourself are incapable of understanding the fact that the US holds all the cards, and anyone who wants the US as an ally needs to conform to OUR demands OR WE DON'T NEED THEM!  So stick with your globalist hand-wringing and see where it gets you while the rest of the country actually takes pride in our stature as the world's only superpower as even some liberals far smarter than you are grumbling over Trump's obvious and massive successes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eus-wZnvoc
 

Cannonpointer » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eus-wZnvoc

I suppose you think that stupid video has relevance related to your foolish belief that the US is celebrating victory too early, despite the fact that Iran is just days away from total the economic collapse that has already rendered their currency virtually worthless, while our economy is busy setting record high levels, huh? 

Wall Street hits record as S&P 500 continues 2-week rally, boosted by hopes for Iran war's end
Economy
Apr 15, 2026 5:40 PM EDTNEW YORK (AP) —

The U.S. stock market hit a record Wednesday after adding to its two-week rally built on hopes the war with Iran won't create a worst-case scenario for the global economy. Whether Wall Street is correct to have so much hope for peace and whether stocks should be the highest they've ever been remains to be seen. The S&P 500 rose 0.8% and eclipsed its prior all-time high set in January. After falling nearly 10% below its record in late March, a drop steep enough that Wall Street calls it a "correction," the index at the heart of many 401(k) accounts has since roared more than 10% higher.Much of the rally has been due to expectations for calming tensions in the war and a resumption of the full flow of oil from the Persian Gulf to customers worldwide. Hopes remained high Wednesday as regional officials told The Associated Press that the United States and Iran had an "in principle agreement" to extend a ceasefire to allow for more diplomacy.

And just watch how much higher it goes in the next couple of weeks as gas prices begin to drop precipitously and the Democrats give up their idiotic attempt to keep the government shut!

Resilient US consumers drive strongest economic expansion in 2 years
By  MATT OTT December 23, 2025

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy grew at a surprisingly strong 4.3% annual rate in the third quarter, the most rapid expansion in two years, driven by consumers who continue to spend in the face of ongoing inflation.U.S. gross domestic product from July through September — the economy’s total output of goods and services — rose from its 3.8% growth rate in the April-June quarter, the Commerce Department said Tuesday in a report delayed by the government shutdown. Economists surveyed by the data firm FactSet forecast growth of just 3% in the period.

 

Ukraine impeachment was continuation of failed Russia collusion plot to take down Trump, docs show

The Democrat-led Ukraine impeachment effort of 2019 was linked to and a continuation of the Russiagate saga and of the failed effort by special counsel Robert Mueller to unearth criminality by President Donald Trump, newly-declassified documents and testimony indicate.

Memos declassified by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and released by Just the News on Sunday were written by investigators for intelligence community inspector general Michael Atkinson, who first handled the CIA analyst's complaint. Gabbard also declassified long-secret transcribed interviews from the watchdog, and these, combined with the memos, provide further evidence that the Ukraine impeachment saga was a continuation of the Russia gate saga which had flamed out.

The corruption is all being uncovered...
 

Cannonpointer » Today, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:23 am

Being better informed than you.

Informed about what? How actual evolving happens naturally or how people choose to ignore the natural universal balancing sustaining eternal separation of active reproductions inhabiting time daily here?

Zeets2 » Today, 12:57 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:57 pm

And now the whole world knows it, including Russia themselves and China.  As well as Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, ISIS, and any other country like Lebanon who has permitted Muslim terrorists to overtake their countries.

Coupla things.

1. We had to take interceptors away from South Kores - pissing off our allies there and worrying our allies in Japan - because those useless russian, chinese, and iranain drones overwhelmed the batteries the US THOUGHT would do the job.
2. We had to take interceptors away from Western Europe because those useless russian, chinese, and iranain drones overwhelmed the batteries the US THOUGHT would do the job.
3. NOT FEELING SAFE, our allies are getting together and creating new strategies and alliances. NATO is on the way out - and this will cut our MIC's production and profits in half. It will make it much more difficult for us to act in concert with alliesin the event of a major war.

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The US market is a prize for sure. Every nation on earth covets access to it, for good reason. We can (and more often than you think, do) make nations jump through hoops. You likely believe we should make them jump through MORE hoops - and if you do, we can agree on that. But as desirable as that access is, if we demand the leaders of other nations murder their wives and children on video in order to get it, THEY WILL FIND SOME OTHER WAY TO PROCEED, WITHOUT ACCESS TO THE AMERICAN MARKET. So there IS a limit, and the US is edging mighty, mighty close to hitting that limit.

Just as there is a limit to what we can require of our military allies. A military alliance with the US has always been seen as the best way to be safe in a dangerous world. Like access to our market, it has very real and very substantial value. But like access to our market, being our ally has great but FINITE value. And every vassal state of ours - sorry, ALLY of ours - in the middle east can attest that an alliance with the US can come with significant costs. It has made them LESS safe - and the best interceptors go to israel while the arab states get pounded and their economies get shut down. 

Zeets2 » Today, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:21 pm

I suppose you think that stupid video has relevance related to your foolish belief that the US is celebrating victory too early, despite the fact that Iran is just days away from total the economic collapse that has already rendered their currency virtually worthless, while our economy is busy setting record high levels, huh? 

And just watch how much higher it goes in the next couple of weeks as gas prices begin to drop precipitously and the Democrats give up their idiotic attempt to keep the government shut!

The neocon/pnac delusion is debunked.You just haven't noticed yet. 
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 8:50 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 8:50 pm

The neocon/pnac delusion is debunked.You just haven't noticed yet.

@Zeets2  head is firmly stuck in the America First Arse Hole.
He does not see we are heading for dead last fast.
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 4:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:42 am

@Zeets2  head is firmly stuck in the America First Arse Hole.

 

"America first" bothers your little nasty socialist commie ***.   
 

Former Dem rising star Justin Fairfax kills wife and himself, police say.................
Fox News correspondent Christina Coleman reports that the former Virginia Lt. Gov.’s teenage children were in the home at the time of the murder-suicide on ‘Hannity.’

**** COWARD

MR-7 » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

8 minutes ago

Former Dem rising star Justin Fairfax kills wife and himself, police say.................
Fox News correspondent Christina Coleman reports that the former Virginia Lt. Gov.’s teenage children were in the home at the time of the murder-suicide on ‘Hannity.’

**** COWARD

Justin Fairfax was accused of sexual assault in 2019 by two women, denied all claims, and faced political fallout despite no criminal charges. The allegations remain a significant part of his legacy. 

Same as Swalwell?
 
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 4:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:42 am

@Zeets2  head is firmly stuck in the America First Arse Hole.
He does not see we are heading for dead last fast.

No, no.

I am America first - to the bone. 

He is israel first.