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Cut all funding for inner city schools. Give that funding to schools with students who want to learn and who have potential. 

The inner schools are filled with blacks and Mexicans. Mostly blacks. Their schools are an adolescent day care and one big fight club. That is not where our money should go. Let their parents teach their kids how to read/write and do simple math. Their problems are culturally embedded. It's their culture that is a train wreck. Schools are not meant to fix cultures. That isn't their purpose. Until they can fix their social issues, traditions, behavior, and overall way of life, they have no business expecting school funding. 

Give that money to real schools. 


My name is Vegas, and I approved this message. 

Get rid of all the ****. Cut administration. Quit building extravagant schools. Get back to basics. Reading, Writing, Math, Science, Real PE and shop classes. And Number 1, Discipline. Teach kids, don't baby them or transition them.

Vegas » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

Cut all funding for inner city schools. Give that funding to schools with students who want to learn and who have potential. 

The inner schools are filled with blacks and Mexicans. Mostly blacks. Their schools are an adolescent day care and one big fight club. That is not where our money should go. Let their parents teach their kids how to read/write and do simple math. Their problems are culturally embedded. It's their culture that is a train wreck. Schools are not meant to fix cultures. That isn't their purpose. Until they can fix their social issues, traditions, behavior, and overall way of life, they have no business expecting school funding. 

Give that money to real schools. 

My name is Vegas, and I approved this message.

The kids are a result of bad parenting....and yes, that is a black cultural tradition. 

Vegas » 26 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

26 minutes ago

Cut all funding for inner city schools. Give that funding to schools with students who want to learn and who have potential. 

The inner schools are filled with blacks and Mexicans. Mostly blacks. Their schools are an adolescent day care and one big fight club. That is not where our money should go. Let their parents teach their kids how to read/write and do simple math. Their problems are culturally embedded. It's their culture that is a train wreck. Schools are not meant to fix cultures. That isn't their purpose. Until they can fix their social issues, traditions, behavior, and overall way of life, they have no business expecting school funding. 

Give that money to real schools. 

My name is Vegas, and I approved this message.

A far better solution would be to simply give the equivalent amount in a voucher to PARENTS, and let THEM choose the best schools for their kids!  The problem is that when public schools get that money today, it's just throwing good money after bad because there is no competition and no accountability for a school to improve when their failure to educate kids works as the incentive TO RECEIVE EVEN MORE FEDERAL MONEY!  If that **** stopped, bad schools would close down and better schools would strive to really educate kids, and the better ones could charge more based on the quality of education their kids would receive.

Buying an education should be NO DIFFERENT than buying a car, a home, or a candy bar!  The best ones survive and prosper, the worst ones go broke, and the result is an increase in the actual education that kids are receiving.  And if you want YOUR kids to go to a liberal school that's taught by drag queens, have tampon machines in boy's bathrooms, and insist on teaching gay pride, black history, and Heather has Two Mommies, there will be schools that cater to that ****, and those "graduates" will quickly see how lousy an education they received when they can't get a job.  But it's a pipe dream because Democrats beholden to the teacher's union and janitor's union will fight to keep the status quo where THEY get that money instead! 
 

We have the voucher system here in Arizona and the Public schools are taking a beating. Private schools can't keep up with the enrollment. Competition is weeding out the **** schools and teachers.

Zeets2 » 29 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

29 minutes ago

A far better solution would be to simply give the equivalent amount in a voucher to PARENTS, and let THEM choose the best schools for their kids!  The problem is that when public schools get that money today, it's just throwing good money after bad because there is no competition and no accountability for a school to improve when their failure to educate kids works as the incentive TO RECEIVE EVEN MORE FEDERAL MONEY!  If that **** stopped, bad schools would close down and better schools would strive to really educate kids, and the better ones could charge more based on the quality of education their kids would receive.

Buying an education should be NO DIFFERENT than buying a car, a home, or a candy bar!  The best ones survive and prosper, the worst ones go broke, and the result is an increase in the actual education that kids are receiving.  And if you want YOUR kids to go to a liberal school that's taught by drag queens, have tampon machines in boy's bathrooms, and insist on teaching gay pride, black history, and Heather has Two Mommies, there will be schools that cater to that ****, and those "graduates" will quickly see how lousy an education they received when they can't get a job.  But it's a pipe dream because Democrats beholden to the teacher's union and janitor's union will fight to keep the status quo where THEY get that money instead!

I am not sure if vouchers are a great solution. for the problem of inner schools. I like that idea for parents/children who are serious about their education, but not for inner sity schools. The useless losers in the inner school would simply use those vouchers to go to a good school, so they can trash them also. 

RebelGator » 39 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

39 minutes ago

The kids are a result of bad parenting....and yes, that is a black cultural tradition.

Mostly black culture. Yes, all cultures have this issue, but not like the blacks. Their whole culture is one big train wreck. 

Don't punish rural and schools in the suburbs with rules of inner city schools. You want to live in a ghetto inner city, suffer the consequences.

Vegas » 35 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

35 minutes ago

I am not sure if vouchers are a great solution. for the problem of inner schools. I like that idea for parents/children who are serious about their education, but not for inner sity schools. The useless losers in the inner school would simply use those vouchers to go to a good school, so they can trash them also.

My thinking is that a private school would NOT be obligated to let disruptive kids remain in their school and expel them as they should!  And if the parents stand to lose the value of that voucher, they will THEN take on the role of discipline for their own kids rather than leave it to the school.  The biggest problem public schools now face is that the worst kids must remain no matter how much they disrupt those who actually want to learn.  Private schools don't have that problem.  

The first step is getting the country to admit that the current public school system has failed and needs a complete overhaul.  And black parents overwhelmingly favor a voucher program as even they recognize how poor an education their kids are now getting.  

It was actually a sad joke reviewing the job applications that I received in my company from mostly minority (supposedly) high school graduates that were fundamentally illiterate.  Most couldn't construct a sentence, had little or no understanding of the question, had no conception of the kind of response a business was looking for in a prospective employee, and their spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure was an abomination, and this was 20 years ago in a northern NJ inner city with NJ leading the country in the amount of money spent on public school education, long before the Covid shutdown caused such a massive downturn in test scores.

Can you imagine how inner city minority voters would switch parties and vote to support a Republican candidate who promised to implement such a dramatic change?  Democrat politicians would be screaming bloody murder losing that support!

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79% of Black parents support vouchers as part of school choice policies, according to a recent survey. This indicates a strong preference for options that allow them to choose educational settings for their children.Support for Vouchers Among Black ParentsSurvey FindingsA recent survey indicates that a significant majority of Black parents support school choice policies, particularly vouchers. The key statistics from the survey are as follows:Policy TypeSupport PercentageVouchers79%Charter Schools74%Open Enrollment78%Education Savings Accounts78%Reasons for SupportBlack parents express strong support for vouchers as they believe these options empower them to choose the best educational settings for their children. This desire for choice is rooted in a broader context of seeking quality education and better opportunities for their children.

 

Zeets2 » 58 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

58 minutes ago

My thinking is that a private school would NOT be obligated to let disruptive kids remain in their school and expel them as they should!  And if the parents stand to lose the value of that voucher, they will THEN take on the role of discipline for their own kids rather than leave it to the school.  The biggest problem public schools now face is that the worst kids must remain no matter how much they disrupt those who actually want to learn.  Private schools don't have that problem.  

The first step is getting the country to admit that the current public school system has failed and needs a complete overhaul.  And black parents overwhelmingly favor a voucher program as even they recognize how poor an education their kids are now getting.  

It was actually a sad joke reviewing the job applications that I received in my company from mostly minority (supposedly) high school graduates that were fundamentally illiterate.  Most couldn't construct a sentence, had little or no understanding of the question, had no conception of the kind of response a business was looking for in a prospective employee, and their spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure was an abomination, and this was 20 years ago in a northern NJ inner city with NJ leading the country in the amount of money spent on public school education, long before the Covid shutdown caused such a massive downturn in test scores.

Can you imagine how inner city minority voters would switch parties and vote to support a Republican candidate who promised to implement such a dramatic change?  Democrat politicians would be screaming bloody murder losing that support!

You make a lot of good points. Believe me, I have seen what the public schools produce. It's awful. I think most people in America believe that our education system is broken. However, the inner schools are the biggest problems. When they do the rankings, they include their performance along with the good schools.  Their performance is so bad that it brings the average down substantially. That is the main reason why we rank so low compared to the rest of the world. If we just got rid of those schools, and keep the serious ones, then our global ranking wouldn't be so bad. 

Vegas » Today, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:33 am

Cut all funding for inner city schools. Give that funding to schools with students who want to learn and who have potential. 

The inner schools are filled with blacks and Mexicans. Mostly blacks. Their schools are an adolescent day care and one big fight club. That is not where our money should go. Let their parents teach their kids how to read/write and do simple math. Their problems are culturally embedded. It's their culture that is a train wreck. Schools are not meant to fix cultures. That isn't their purpose. Until they can fix their social issues, traditions, behavior, and overall way of life, they have no business expecting school funding. 

Give that money to real schools. 

My name is Vegas, and I approved this message.

cool put that on all the maga literature

jerrab » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

3 minutes ago

cool put that on all the maga literature

Blow me. 

RebelGator » Today, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:51 am

The kids are a result of bad parenting....and yes, that is a black cultural tradition.

Baby makers don't parent. They make babies for fun and profit.
The least we can do is remove the profit.
Yes, blacks are more apt to crank out worthless kee-ids.
Doesn't matter what trashy folks' color be. Remove the "financial assistance".

Zeets2 » Today, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:57 am

My thinking is that a private school would NOT be obligated to let disruptive kids remain in their school and expel them as they should!  And if the parents stand to lose the value of that voucher, they will THEN take on the role of discipline for their own kids rather than leave it to the school.  The biggest problem public schools now face is that the worst kids must remain no matter how much they disrupt those who actually want to learn.  Private schools don't have that problem.  

The first step is getting the country to admit that the current public school system has failed and needs a complete overhaul.  And black parents overwhelmingly favor a voucher program as even they recognize how poor an education their kids are now getting.  

It was actually a sad joke reviewing the job applications that I received in my company from mostly minority (supposedly) high school graduates that were fundamentally illiterate.  Most couldn't construct a sentence, had little or no understanding of the question, had no conception of the kind of response a business was looking for in a prospective employee, and their spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure was an abomination, and this was 20 years ago in a northern NJ inner city with NJ leading the country in the amount of money spent on public school education, long before the Covid shutdown caused such a massive downturn in test scores.

Can you imagine how inner city minority voters would switch parties and vote to support a Republican candidate who promised to implement such a dramatic change?  Democrat politicians would be screaming bloody murder losing that support!

When 95% of the administration and teachers are Democrats, what would anyone expect to be the result?

Vegas » 41 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

41 minutes ago

You make a lot of good points. Believe me, I have seen what the public schools produce. It's awful. I think most people in America believe that our education system is broken. However, the inner schools are the biggest problems. When they do the rankings, they include their performance along with the good schools.  Their performance is so bad that it brings the average down substantially. That is the main reason why we rank so low compared to the rest of the world. If we just got rid of those schools, and keep the serious ones, then our global ranking wouldn't be so bad.

I completely agree! 
If more people saw first hand what I've seen of kids that are graduated from high school in the inner cities they'd demand radical changes.
Maybe if those failing schools went back to sending the most unruly kids that don't want an education to the kind of reform schools we once had, things would start to change.  But Democrat politicians who get such huge funding from the unions would never go along with that.
 

RebelGator » 15 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

15 minutes ago

When 95% of the administration and teachers are Democrats, what would anyone expect to be the result?

Very true!
And those same lousy teachers are protected by their unions and the politicians they pay off.
 

jerrab » Today, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:58 pm

cool put that on all the maga literature

Are you saying you're content with the lousy state of public school education in this country?
Care to reveal YOUR solutions to improve it?
Let me guess...

You will probably recommend raising taxes on the rich and throwing billions more at the problem, right?
 

Vegas » Today, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:33 am

Cut all funding for inner city schools. Give that funding to schools with students who want to learn and who have potential. 

The inner schools are filled with blacks and Mexicans. Mostly blacks. Their schools are an adolescent day care and one big fight club. That is not where our money should go. Let their parents teach their kids how to read/write and do simple math. Their problems are culturally embedded. It's their culture that is a train wreck. Schools are not meant to fix cultures. That isn't their purpose. Until they can fix their social issues, traditions, behavior, and overall way of life, they have no business expecting school funding. 

Give that money to real schools. 

My name is Vegas, and I approved this message.

Just give up learning

And answer C to every multiple choice questions

Zeets2 » 35 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

35 minutes ago

Are you saying you're content with the lousy state of public school education in this country?
Care to reveal YOUR solutions to improve it?
Let me guess...

You will probably recommend raising taxes on the rich and throwing billions more at the problem, right?

it would not be to cut all funding to all inner city schools.
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Cut all funding for inner city schools.

Vegas » Today, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:33 am

Give that money to real schools. 

My name is Vegas, and I approved this message.

The State Government already does that, at least here is Colorado.

"The government funds charters the same way they fund public schools. And with the same money. The difference is that charters aren't held to the same curriculum standards or discipline practices as their public counterparts, and these disparities have fostered the vast skepticism and resentment among public educators".

The Charter School the wife works at operates as a Classical Academy with direction from Hillsdale College.

They don't **** around. You child will wear a uniform and any behavioral issues prompts immediate pickup by the parents.

I don't necessarily believe Black or Hispanic parents are any worse than your typical White Trash parents. 

The wife spent this year sharing an office with the School Psychologist. There are a lot of **** up kids stemming from the home life which makes learning difficult. 

Can't say for sure if it's better for the kids but the staff doesn't fall under the school district red tape.