The War in Ukraine from the pro-Russian Perspective

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By Cannonpointer
13 May 2026 10:33 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 15 May 2026, 11:01 am » wrote: That's the tourist understanding of it. Ukraine had no nukes of its own. Ukrainie has never produced a space program or even a functioning polity for that matter. It was by most measures a failed state when the US orchestrated the maidan coup. Corruption killed Ukraine. And Putin has half a continent which is resource rich, and no time to exploit those resources because he is engaged in a proxy war with 32 countries necessitated by the existential threat of NATO on its 2,000 kilometer border with what was its peaceful neighbor.

You do not respect the right of the people of Crimea to vote their future. You are a believer in fascism - not democracy. You are a member of the fascist cheering squad, sniveling like a bitch about the very policies you defend. You're in Trump's camp, you **** idiot. 

Bye Bye Taiwan....- Richard Nixon, 1972. You dumbassed tourist.
Doc Alemenas was my favorite professor.  He was from the region..  I forget if Ukraine or Lithuania at the moment..  Neither one of them sound right..  

He was big, burly, and 4 eyed with the beard... He made Nuclear Engiineering so easy to understand with little parables about the homeland in between.  I actually was in class when the disaster hit  and learned many details about Chernobyl actively as a student. 

CP, one of my classmates was from Syria.   Another very good teacher was Iranian.  Being born by the Beltway has consequences.  Turns out the Director of the Department  was accused of sexually abusing his daughter, and she had an office down the hall from him...   Just Like Ivanka. He was found not guilty..  I had no clue..
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 12:22 pm » wrote: Doc Alemenas was my favorite professor.  He was from the region..  I forget if Ukraine or Lithuania at the moment..  Neither one of them sound right..  

He was big, burly, and 4 eyed with the beard... He made Nuclear Engiineering so easy to understand with little parables about the homeland in between.  I actually was in class when the disaster hit  and learned many details about Chernobyl actively as a student. 

CP, one of my classmates was from Syria.   Another very good teacher was Iranian.  Being born by the Beltway has consequences.  Turns out the Director of the Department  was accused of sexually abusing his daughter, and she had an office down the hall from him...   Just Like Ivanka. He was found not guilty..  I had no clue..
Not enough has changed in your relationship with clues - and clues are gettable.

In my mind, a man has a duty to think or shut up. Babbling ignorantly is a bad look.

Which European nation is NOT participating in the war effort? Where would Ukraine be without them? Is the Ukraine kleptocracy even a country, without being funded externally? What argument can you make that the **** in Ukraine is NOT a proxy war by Europe against Russia?

Have you bothered even to LOOK at the arguments and facts I present in my stickied thread on this topic? Do you feel no duty to inform yourself before you throw mouth-vomit on the board?

The easiest way to kick-start your own research if to look to DISPROVE someone else's research. Falsifying is much easier than formulating. You could go to what I presented and look at calling ****. That would be a way to make a novel relevant post on the issue. That feat might fill you with so much pride that you might start trying to be responsible for MOST of what you say - and eventually for all of it. That would be a revolution in your posting fu. 
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Cannonpointer » 15 May 2026, 12:29 pm » wrote: Not enough has changed in your relationship with clues - and clues are gettable.

In my mind, a man has a duty to think or shut up. Babbling ignorantly is a bad look.

Which European nation is NOT participating in the war effort? Where would Ukraine be without them? Is the Ukraine kleptocracy even a country, without being funded externally? What argument can you make that the **** in Ukraine is NOT a proxy war by Europe against Russia?
Crimea 2014.. Donatsk 2022..   Who is the aggressor?   I remember in 2022 Trump said Putin was a genius for going in as a "peacekeeper". Putin is in hiding to try stay at peace. Was he at the parade?
Have you bothered even to LOOK at the arguments and facts I present in my stickied thread on this topic? Do you feel no duty to inform yourself before you throw mouth-vomit on the board?

The easiest way to kick-start your own research if to look to DISPROVE someone else's research. Falsifying is much easier than formulating. You could go to what I presented and look at calling ****. That would be a way to make a novel relevant post on the issue. That feat might fill you with so much pride that you might start trying to be responsible for MOST of what you say - and eventually for all of it. That would be a revolution in your posting fu.
I looked, I struggle trying to get as in depth as you.    Your content is not unappreciated.  sorry I just can't touch back on it all.
 
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JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 1:37 pm » wrote: Crimea 2014.. Donatsk 2022..   Who is the aggressor? 
You would make an EXCELLENT Trumper, you simple-minded ****.

Hey, Venezuela took took - took our oil. They were running a drug cartel. You stupid **** Capuchin.
JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 1:37 pm » wrote: I remember in 2022 Trump said Putin was a genius for going in as a "peacekeeper".
You are precisley the type of ****-fer-brains that takes Trump at his word, you **** potato.
JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 1:37 pm » wrote: I looked, I struggle trying to get as in depth as you.    Your content is not unappreciated.  sorry I just can't touch back on it all.
Then why keep running your gob? If you're too lazy to even read the counter narrative and fact check it, why keep running the narrative of your tard-abusers? Are you really that shameless?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

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Cannonpointer » Today, 3:08 pm » wrote: You would make an EXCELLENT Trumper, you simple-minded ****.

Hey, Venezuela took took - took our oil. They were running a drug cartel. You stupid **** Capuchin.

You are precisley the type of ****-fer-brains that takes Trump at his word, you **** potato.

Then why keep running your gob? If you're too lazy to even read the counter narrative and fact check it, why keep running the narrative of your tard-abusers? Are you really that shameless?

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Johnny You » Yesterday, 1:37 pm » wrote:    Who is the aggressor? 
 
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31stArrival » Today, 2:38 am » wrote: Everyone saving humanity in next generation added tomorrow. Reality, humanity, community theater on a New World Order stage of events words mean more than actual genetic time alive since inception of ancestral lineages changing population left alive next rotation of the planet so far..
Let me guess..  You are with the government and here to help??

I have seen some pretty incredible UAP strikes in Ukraine..  Russia has put camo netting on subs 7200 km away from Ukraine  in Kamchatka.   Camofluage is a very hot product in war now..   They have to work in the non visible spectrum too.

Putin heads to China on Tuesday.   He has been in hiding.
 
 
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Johnny You » 7 minutes ago » wrote: Let me guess..  You are with the government and here to help??

I have seen some pretty incredible UAP strikes in Ukraine..  Russia has put camo netting on subs 7200 km away from Ukraine  in Kamchatka.   Camofluage is a very hot product in war now..   They have to work in the non visible spectrum too.

Putin heads to China on Tuesday.   He has been in hiding.
 
 
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Why does that ****** @MR-7  keep spamming other people's threads about this topic, instead of tackling the issue in a thread that is ACTUALLY ABOUT THIS TOPIC?

Could it be the ****** is put off by the fact that there is falsifiable evidence posted in this thread?

I think that is precisely the problem for him. There are links to the claims made. There is incdontrovertible evidence that this war was planned by the US, set in motion by the US, funded and DIRECTED by the US - that this is a proxy war the Russians did not start. And he cannot credibly dispute that evidence. So he dances around it by litigating the dispute between us in other people's threads about other topics. 

The ****** wants to spew the Obama/Clinton narrative. And he is so stupid and out of touch with where his talking points come from that he doesn't even KNOW he is defending Obama and Hillary's actions, working his ****-mouth to cover up what they did.  
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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I read the entire thread and got some good insights. The RAND Report is very insightful. Hell, you don’t even need to talk conspiracy any more. The information is right there for everyone to see.
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Blackvegetable » 14 May 2026, 6:01 am » wrote: More of this **** ****..

This video will.explain.....

What video?
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JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 9:32 am » wrote: Noted you are sexist..   
 
Oh, sexthist.  Say it with your lisp, fruity.
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JohnnyYou » 15 May 2026, 1:37 pm » wrote:

I looked, I struggle trying to get as in depth as you.   
Seriously?!  WTF; you’re paid to post here and you’re this lazy??!! :lol:  
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im2 » Yesterday, 4:38 am » wrote: Seriously?!  WTF; you’re paid to post here and you’re this lazy??!! Image
I am on strike.
 
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You're a dumb **** 
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Cannonpointer » 17 May 2026, 10:40 pm » wrote: Why does that ****** @MR-7  keep spamming other people's threads about this topic, instead of tackling the issue in a thread that is ACTUALLY ABOUT THIS TOPIC?

Could it be the ****** is put off by the fact that there is falsifiable evidence posted in this thread?

I think that is precisely the problem for him. There are links to the claims made. There is incdontrovertible evidence that this war was planned by the US, set in motion by the US, funded and DIRECTED by the US - that this is a proxy war the Russians did not start. And he cannot credibly dispute that evidence. So he dances around it by litigating the dispute between us in other people's threads about other topics. 

The ****** wants to spew the Obama/Clinton narrative. And he is so stupid and out of touch with where his talking points come from that he doesn't even KNOW he is defending Obama and Hillary's actions, working his ****-mouth to cover up what they did.
Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022...that’s not an opinion, it’s documented fact. UN, NATO, AP, Reuters, BBC, EU...every credible source on Earth calls it an unprovoked Russian invasion. If you’ve got a source saying Ukraine started it, post it. Otherwise, you’re arguing against the entire planet. Russian troops crossing the border on Feb. 24, 2022, launching missiles, and announcing a ‘special military operation. Wild coincidence, right? But hey, if you’ve got a source showing Ukraine invaded itself, go ahead and post it. If the evidence is ‘incontrovertible,’ then post it. Not a blog. Not a YouTube rant. Not a meme. Show a UN report, a NATO statement, an AP/Reuters investigation, or an OSCE finding saying the U.S. planned and directed Russia’s invasion.If you can’t produce that, then you’re not talking about evidence...you’re talking about a narrative.
 
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MR-7 » Yesterday, 5:29 am » wrote: Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022...that’s not an opinion, it’s documented fact. UN, NATO, AP, Reuters, BBC, EU...every credible source on Earth calls it an unprovoked Russian invasion. If you’ve got a source saying Ukraine started it, post it. Otherwise, you’re arguing against the entire planet. Russian troops crossing the border on Feb. 24, 2022, launching missiles, and announcing a ‘special military operation. Wild coincidence, right? But hey, if you’ve got a source showing Ukraine invaded itself, go ahead and post it. If the evidence is ‘incontrovertible,’ then post it. Not a blog. Not a YouTube rant. Not a meme. Show a UN report, a NATO statement, an AP/Reuters investigation, or an OSCE finding saying the U.S. planned and directed Russia’s invasion.If you can’t produce that, then you’re not talking about evidence...you’re talking about a narrative.
Ukraine launched 600 drones into Moscow yesterday..
 
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Johnny You » Yesterday, 5:20 am » wrote: I am on strike.
 
You struck out long time ago. This isn't a personal assault on your character, it is just recognition humanity has never build a sustainable society that lasted more than 12 generation gaps without a rewrite of history over and over doing same things every social enterprise of promising life exceeds adapting in plain sight daily here.
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Correct. You fit in the DUMBEST **** THERE EVER WAS category. Likely on dead TOP of that list.

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