The War in Ukraine from the pro-Russian Perspective

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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:54 pm » wrote: What he^ said, @Fuelman
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:52 pm » wrote: It's interesting that the Russians are using proxies to destabilize countries as a central pillar of their foreign policy. I was actually unaware of that - thank you for the information. I guess the information would be even MORE valuable if you maybe named one of those proxies.

The reason I see America using proxies as bad is that what America is pushing is gender perversion and counterfeit money. The other reason it's bad (to me) is that I want to see the empire folded up and the republic ressurected. 

The reason I see everyone else using proxies as good, I will leave to you to explain. You're the one who made it up. 

After you've explained what countries Russia is using proxies to destabilize and explained to me why I am such a fan of everyone else using proxies, maybe you'd be willing to say more about the "jew created proxy" trope. I'm not exactly a hebophile, and I've never heard that one.
Now you know! We can't expect you to know everything.

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Russia’s Global Game of Proxies - per Concordiam https://share.google/iTX30q9DSUdA47gX6
 
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DeezerShoove » Yesterday, 10:26 pm » wrote: Hitler said, "I'm sorry." so he could go to heaven. Image
False. He was not sorry. 
 
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 9:52 pm » wrote:

maybe you'd be willing to say more about the "jew created proxy" trope. I'm not exactly a hebophile, and I've never heard that one.
:rofl:  I had never heard of it either, so I just assumed the Jews were at fault as with everything else so I made that **** up!

Puppet Master Tropes: Conspiracy theories—such as the historically antisemitic trope of the Judeo-Masonic conspiracy—falsely allege that Jews orchestrate wars, revolutions, or political movements using non-Jewish groups as their proxies to maintain plausible deniability.

This goes a bit deeper into the conspiracy:

“His Weapons: Democracy, Masonry, Communism, Capitalism” https://share.google/zViE5tN1YuSqOMWRA
 
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Some of the best coverage of the war in Ukraine..

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https://youtu.be/HNfbqOacYoQ?si=G_GmNX3rvjocTSqY
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MR-7 » Today, 6:21 am » wrote: You are out here acting like Russia using proxies is some fantasy someone made up when the entire planet has watched Russia run separatists in Ukraine run breakaway regions in Georgia and Moldova run mercenaries across Africa and run cyber cutouts everywhere from the Baltics to the United States and the only reason you are pretending to be confused is because admitting you did not know any of that would shatter the little narrative you are clinging to. You want to lecture people about empires and republics while you cannot even name the groups Russia has been using for decades and now you are trying to flip it like someone else invented it because you got caught talking out of your depth. These are classic Russian proxies: armed, funded, trained, and politically controlled.
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The people of the regions you named were being murdered by ukrainian nazis with direct ties to German nazism.

These regions had rejected the coup government, and the coup government sent the Azov Battallion and others to terrorize and subdue them. They declared independence, and they begged Russia for help. Russia instead mediated on their behalf - google, "Minsk Accords." This went on for 7 years, with the kiev regime agreeing to stop bombing civilians and the governments of France and Germany being guarantors of the peace. Both PMs later retired and openly bragged that they had only been buying time to arm Ukraine and had never been honest brokers. 

You claim they exist because of Russia. These regions were peaceful Ukrainian Oblasts before the coup. To pretend THEY are the problem, and not the coup that you have been shown was instigated by the DC deep state, is about as sleazy a move as you have pulled. 

Your claim that the Syrian National Defense Forces is a "proxy" - well, your SOURCE's claim - is as sleazy as it gets. The Russians provided aid to Syria to prevent a takeover by ISIS - which the United States assisted in occuring. Now, without the protection of al Assad, the Christians in Syria are being murdered. Which is precisely what everyone knew would happen. 

Wagner are mercenaries - not proxies.To pretend these are the same thing is dishonest. Yes, the DO act on Russia's behalf. But they are not being victimized. They are being paid. Ukraine is being used like a disposable Bic lighter. Your entire propaganda spew is dishonest. The use of Ukrainians as proxies is destroying the country of Ukraine and causing a diaspora of its people. 

What you have demonstrated is that you drink at the fountain of the deep state. You are a UN sissy, a BBC sissy, and a panty-waisted neocon ***. 
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 10 minutes ago » wrote: Why don't you grow a nut sac and have the dignity to admit that The Maidan Coup was a DC operation - not a grass roots function of democratic action?

You have not addressed that issue at all - and it is a central issue. Instead you copy-paste like the ****** your mama raised. 

The people of the regions you named were being murdered by ukrainian nazis with direct ties to German nazism. This was a direct result of the coup government outlawing their language and their chuch leaders. 

These regions had rejected the coup government, and the coup government sent the Azov Battallion and others to terrorize and subdue them. They declared independence, and they begged Russia for help. Russia instead mediated on their behalf - google, "Minsk Accords." This went on for 7 years, with the kiev regime agreeing to stop bombing civilians and the governments of France and Germany being guarantors of the peace. Both PMs later retired and openly bragged that they had only been buying time to arm Ukraine and had never been honest brokers. 

You claim they exist because of Russia. These regions were peaceful Ukrainian Oblasts before the coup. To pretend THEY are the problem, and not the coup that you have been shown was instigated by the DC deep state, is about as sleazy a move as you have pulled. 

Your claim that the Syrian National Defense Forces is a "proxy" - well, your SOURCE's claim - is as sleazy as it gets. The Russians provided aid to Syria to prevent a takeover by ISIS - which the United States assisted in occuring. Now, without the protection of al Assad, the Christians in Syria are being murdered. Which is precisely what everyone knew would happen. 

Wagner are mercenaries - not proxies.To pretend these are the same thing is dishonest. Yes, the DO act on Russia's behalf. But they are not being victimized. They are being paid. Ukraine is being used like a disposable Bic lighter. Your entire propaganda spew is dishonest. The use of Ukrainians as proxies is destroying the country of Ukraine and causing a diaspora of its people. 

What you have demonstrated is that you drink at the fountain of the deep state. You are a UN sissy, a BBC sissy, and a panty-waisted neocon ***.
Poland has hid it's role in Zionicide in the 1940's.. There is a new documentary out about it.

I have never seen reports of any Ukrainian Genocide in the disputed territories..   We have Nazi's embedded deep in our miltary now.  I mean, what are Christian White Nationalists?  Just another term for Nazi. MAGA leaders are straight up CWN's. They don't even hide it anymore.
 
 
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Fuelman » Today, 8:46 am » wrote: Image  I can put people in a box also, just like you!
So you're a box person.

I see...
 
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Fuelman » Today, 8:50 am » wrote: Now you know! We can't expect you to know everything.

For your reading pleasure and enlightenment:

Russia’s Global Game of Proxies - per Concordiam https://share.google/iTX30q9DSUdA47gX6

Let's look at the very first paragraph of your source.

"The world witnessed Russia’s diversionary, or hybrid, warfare in 2014 with the invasions of Crimea and Donbas. Such warfare relies heavily on an element that has been largely overlooked by great power competition-focused strategists: proxy forces, which are actors outsourced to supplement or help the patron achieve its goals."

Largely overlooked, ya say. What was al qaeda in Afghanistan against the Soviets? What were the Kurds against Assad? What were the Contras in Nicaragua? What were the  UNITA and FNLA rebel groups in Angola?

Botht he Soviets and the Western Bloc fought nothing BUT proxy wars for decades. 

When your very first paragraph starts with a lie so blatant that it is insulting to one's intelligence, the rest of your NAMBLA screed is unfit for **** tickets. I pass.
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Fuelman » 39 minutes ago » wrote: Image  I had never heard of it either, so I just assumed the Jews were at fault as with everything else so I made that **** up!
I see. It was a clumsy dive at some jew cock. 
 
 
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JohnnyYou » 19 minutes ago » wrote: Poland has hid it's role in Zionicide in the 1940's.. There is a new documentary out about it.

I have never seen reports of any Ukrainian Genocide in the disputed territories..   We have Nazi's embedded deep in our miltary now.  I mean, what are Christian White Nationalists?  Just another term for Nazi. MAGA leaders are straight up CWN's. They don't even hide it anymore.
MAGA's "nazism" is expressed as zionism. 

If you think they are National Socialists politically, you are quite mistaken. 

The Azovs are National Socialists politically and are sticklers for racial and linguistic purity. The MAGA *** LOVE to get minorities in their camp. Look at Rubio. Ted Cruz. Kash Patel. 

You do not have a very mature or informed view of nazism. 
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 40 minutes ago » wrote: Let's look at the very first paragraph of your source.

"The world witnessed Russia’s diversionary, or hybrid, warfare in 2014 with the invasions of Crimea and Donbas. Such warfare relies heavily on an element that has been largely overlooked by great power competition-focused strategists: proxy forces, which are actors outsourced to supplement or help the patron achieve its goals."

Largely overlooked, ya say. What was al qaeda in Afghanistan against the Soviets? What were the Kurds against Assad? What were the Contras in Nicaragua? What were the  UNITA and FNLA rebel groups in Angola?

Both the Soviets and the Western Bloc fought nothing BUT proxy wars for decades. 

When your very first paragraph starts with a lie so blatant that it is insulting to one's intelligence, the rest of your NAMBLA screed is unfit for **** tickets.

I pass. And you should have, too. You should be unwilling to proffer a source that begins with a steaming pile like that.
Ok, try this source. 


Putin’s Proxies: Examining Russia’s Use of Private Military Companies https://share.google/jZH6oNtjBLKXxDT8t
 
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Cannonpointer » Today, 9:17 am » wrote: False. He was not sorry.

Never said he was...

Jesus will believe anybody though. :wave:  
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Fuelman » Today, 10:36 am » wrote: Ok, try this source. 

Putin’s Proxies: Examining Russia’s Use of Private Military Companies https://share.google/jZH6oNtjBLKXxDT8t
Here we are running into a problem with the word proxies. 

Technically, yes - Wagner is a "proxy" for Russia, in that it is furthering Russia's aims and is not Russia. But the actors are mercenaries. They are being paid for this. No one is pretending that Russia has no hand in it - including Russia. 

This is a very different thing than hijacking a country - something you and I agree the US did in Ukraine - and expending its citizens like so many disposable bic lighters to accomplish DC's aims, then throwing the broken rump state aside. There are simply very different things. Equating them is dishonest.
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This guy also shares excellent video of drone attacks on Russian Military...

There are people in the comments who say these content creators ignore Russian successes.. Ukraine has acceerated cheap drone technology in years. We have ignored it for decades with preference to a giant military complex with million dollar bullets.

Trump announced yesterday the now defunded Billion Dollar Balls Room (Congress shive it up the *** yesterday) was going to have a super dooper drone port on top of it.. Ukraine has taught the world a lesson... Neccessity is the mother of invention.. You should see the 400 km/hr quadcopter bulllets approaching 3,000 bucks a shot. Unbelievable technology! And scary as ****... If they miss and find no target. They go home and try again. The AI targeting is working. Geolocation is done via camera and known ground landmarks. These interceptors are wiping out Iranian made Shaheed drones.. which I think Russia may have trouble getting a hold of. China will have no trouble playing the Unmanned System game.. Supposedly they have an entire unmanned aircraft carrier. No sailors on board to whine about not getting fed and losing 30 lbs on their deployments.. No long lines at toilets and showers.. More room for weapons.

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JohnnyYou » Today, 6:49 am » wrote: This guy also shares excellent video of drone attacks on Russian Military...

There are people in the comments who say these content creators ignore Russian successes.. Ukraine has acceerated cheap drone technology in years. We have ignored it for decades with preference to a giant military complex with million dollar bullets.

Trump announced yesterday the now defunded Billion Dollar Balls Room (Congress shive it up the *** yesterday) was going to have a super dooper drone port on top of it.. Ukraine has taught the world a lesson... Neccessity is the mother of invention.. You should see the 400 km/hr quadcopter bulllets approaching 3,000 bucks a shot. Unbelievable technology! And scary as ****... If they miss and find no target. They go home and try again. The AI targeting is working. Geolocation is done via camera and known ground landmarks. These interceptors are wiping out Iranian made Shaheed drones.. which I think Russia may have trouble getting a hold of. China will have no trouble playing the Unmanned System game.. Supposedly they have an entire unmanned aircraft carrier. No sailors on board to whine about not getting fed and losing 30 lbs on their deployments.. No long lines at toilets and showers.. More room for weapons.
The biggest problem the chinee had with manned aircraft carriers is that every time the planes were preparing for a flight or returning from one, the cockpit crew would - for reasons American intellience has yet to figure out - jump out, run around the aircraft, and jump back in.

Anything that coupkraine is doing with drones, the russians are copying - and the reverse is true. 
 
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You're going to like this one, @MR-7.

Looks like even Starmer is starting to put his own country over a foreign nation. You could learn from Starmer - a sad thing to say, indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSLboeuii4
 
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Cannonpointer » 38 minutes ago » wrote: You're going to like this one, @MR-7.

Looks like even Starmer is starting to put his own country over a foreign nation. You could learn from Starmer - a sad thing to say, indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSLboeuii4
You supporting Putin while lecturing me about ‘learning from Starmer’ is classic. You can’t preach national loyalty when your own compass points to Moscow. At least try to keep your **** contradictions in line.
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MR-7 » 55 minutes ago » wrote: You supporting Putin while lecturing me about ‘learning from Starmer’ is classic. You can’t preach national loyalty when your own compass points to Moscow. At least try to keep your **** contradictions in line.
There is nothing contradictory in me supporting Putin, you stupid ***. We are not at war with Russia. REMEMBER? Duh.

Unless a lying sack of **** is ready to admit it, that is.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  

You stand with empire.
I stand with republic.

One of us respects the Constitution. It ain't you.

The closest you come to a moral high ground is that if you think you are moral, you must be high.


 
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Cannonpointer » Today, 3:49 pm » wrote: There is nothing contradictory in me supporting Putin, you stupid ***. We are not at war with Russia. REMEMBER? Duh.
 
Quite the contrary..   I would say Putin's reception with Xi Jinping was quite more spectacular.
Unless a lying sack of **** is ready to admit it, that is.  Image   Image   Image  

You stand with empire.
I stand with republic.

One of us respects the Constitution. It ain't you.

The closest you come to a moral high ground is that if you think you are moral, you must be high.
Xi will go total Dupont and sell gunpowder to the north and the south..  
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