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jerrab » Today, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:27 pm

https://youtu.be/cdXgSDUmF1g?si=nFUuAoqa2NMUSmwN

MR-7 » Today, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 3:25 pm

Is there a problem?

JohnnyYou » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

Massie Backlash Syndrome..

Cassissy said **** the Iran war and the ballroom this week..

*Roshambo » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

I support Massie. Trump shouldn't have started on the Ballroom Project without permission nor the war.

jerrab » 20 May 2026, 12:44 pm » wrote: ↑

20 May 2026, 12:44 pm

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lebanon says 21 killed, including children, in Israeli air strikes

Hezbollah fires 200 rockets at north, Iran launches missiles in ‘integrated operation’Two people lightly hurt in Lebanese terror group’s largest attack of war; IDF pounds Hezbollah bastion in Beirut as Israeli official warns sides ‘headed toward serious escalation’By Emanuel Fabian, Lazar Berman and Agencies12 March 2026
Lebanese terror group Hezbollah blasted some 200 rockets and 20 drones at northern Israel for hours on Wednesday evening, repeatedly sending hundreds of thousands of Israelis to shelters.

*Roshambo » 20 May 2026, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

20 May 2026, 5:14 pm

I support Massie. Trump shouldn't have started on the Ballroom Project without permission nor the war.

Zeets2 » 35 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

35 minutes ago

Did you utter a word of objection when Clinton, Obama, or Biden all stated unequivocally that Iran could never be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but didn't have the balls to do anything to stop them?

Zeets2 » 45 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

45 minutes ago

Who gave Obama the permission to have taxpayers fund the basketball court that HE wanted, fool?
Why didn't Obama seek donations to pay for that as Trump did to get a new ballroom constructed that isn't costing the American taxpayer a penny?

And Trump DID NOT start a war with Iran!
That war started when Iran took over our sovereign US territory in our Teheran embassy 47 years ago, taking hostages and declaring war on the US and killing hundreds of Americans since then.
Trump is ENDING THAT WAR, not starting it!
Did you utter a word of objection when Clinton, Obama, or Biden all stated unequivocally that Iran could never be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but didn't have the balls to do anything to stop them?

SouthernFried:
Yer…. Entertaining And I make you angry. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it.

RebelGator » 17 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

17 minutes ago

Not only did they not stop it, they facilitated it.

• The JCPOA: In 2015, the Obama administration, alongside the UK, France, Germany, Russia, and China, negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).
• The Goal: Under the agreement, Iran agreed to dismantle significant portions of its nuclear program, ship out enriched uranium stockpiles, and submit to continuous international monitoring.
• Financial Details: The Obama administration unblocked billions of dollars of Iran's own frozen assets, which were released only after international inspectors verified Iran’s initial compliance with the deal. The administration later faced scrutiny for a $1.7 billion settlement of a pre-1979 arms deal that was processed in cash.

• As Secretary of State under Obama, Clinton was instrumental in building the global coalition that imposed crippling economic sanctions on Iran. This pressure campaign was intended to force Iran to the negotiating table to accept limits on its nuclear activities. [, 2, 3]

• The Biden administration did not aid Iran's nuclear development. The administration initially sought a return to the JCPOA to reverse advances Iran made after the U.S. withdrew from the agreement in 2018, though those diplomatic efforts ultimately floundered.
• Asset Access: The administration faced criticism from opponents regarding agreements that allowed Iran to access certain overseas funds. These included a 2023 agreement involving the release of detained Americans, where $6 billion in frozen Iranian oil funds was transferred to restricted accounts for humanitarian use only.

SouthernFried:
Yer…. Entertaining And I make you angry. Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it.

Zeets2 » Today, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:17 am

Who gave Obama the permission to have taxpayers fund the basketball court that HE wanted, fool?
Why didn't Obama seek donations to pay for that as Trump did to get a new ballroom constructed that isn't costing the American taxpayer a penny?

And Trump DID NOT start a war with Iran!
That war started when Iran took over our sovereign US territory in our Teheran embassy 47 years ago, taking hostages and declaring war on the US and killing hundreds of Americans since then.
Trump is ENDING THAT WAR, not starting it!
Did you utter a word of objection when Clinton, Obama, or Biden all stated unequivocally that Iran could never be allowed to have nuclear weapons, but didn't have the balls to do anything to stop them?

• The term “Leahy law” refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the U.S. Government from using funds for assistance to units of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating that unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights (GVHR). One statutory provision applies to the State Department and the other applies to the Department of Defense. The State Department Leahy law was made permanent under section 620M of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, 22 U.S.C. 2378d. The U.S. government considers torture, extrajudicial killing, enforced disappearance, and rape under color of law as GVHRs when implementing the Leahy law. Incidents are examined on a fact-specific basis.

Zeets2 » Today, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:09 am

So Israel SHOULDN'T defend themselves when Hezbollah fires hundreds of missiles at them from Lebanon?

Get it through your thick, Jew-hating head that when one country begins an unprovoked war and attacks another, retaliation is warranted and not necessarily in an equally balanced response.  "They hurt two Jews?  OK!  We'll kill 21 of them!"  Sounds like a good balance to me!  Imbalanced casualties should show Hezbollah that such an action was pure folly and a well deserved detriment to future attacks.

So you tell me.  Was it worth it for Hezbollah to restart their hostilities against Israel that cost them those 21 people who were killed including Hezbollah's top military leader?  You fight the bull, you get the horns!  When will you idiots learn that simple fact?

• Application Constraints: The State Department has historically been accused of failing to consistently apply the Leahy law to Israel, treating it as an exception rather than a standard case. [1, 2]
• Special Vetting Process: Israel, along with a few other nations, has operated under a different vetting standard, making it harder for a single objection regarding human rights to stop aid. [1]
• Allegations of Violations: Numerous allegations of gross human rights violations by Israeli security forces—including the torture of Palestinians and violence against protestors—have surfaced, yet none have historic

jerrab » 14 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

14 minutes ago

trump should enforce the leahy law

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• The term “Leahy law” refers to two statutory provisions prohibiting the U.S. Government from using funds for assistance to units of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating that unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights (GVHR). One statutory provision applies to the State Department and the other applies to the Department of Defense. The State Department Leahy law was made permanent under section 620M of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, 22 U.S.C. 2378d. The U.S. government considers torture, extrajudicial killing, enforced disappearance, and rape under color of law as GVHRs when implementing the Leahy law. Incidents are examined on a fact-specific basis.

Zeets2 » 32 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

32 minutes ago

It's nothing more than your own idiotic opinion that ANY "torture, extrajudicial killing, enforced disappearance, or rape" was committed by Israel, so we're well within our rights to continue to assist them with funding whether a Jew-hater like you likes it or not!

However, it IS proven that Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS, HAVE done ALL those crimes you claim Israel did and were still fully funded by Iran...that is, until President Trump and Bibi chose to do something about it!  And you happily accept it when another country does it, but use your own biased opinion to claim the exact opposite every time.

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• Concerns over Effectiveness: As of late 2024, no Israeli unit had been deemed ineligible for assistance through this forum, leading former officials to argue it is designed to evade, rather than enforce, the law.
• 2025 Developments: Reports in October 2025 indicated that while the forum documented "hundreds" of potential violations in Gaza, no units were ultimately sanctioned, leading to intense Congressional scrutiny and calls for process reform

Zeets2 » 42 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

42 minutes ago

It's nothing more than your own idiotic opinion that ANY "torture, extrajudicial killing, enforced disappearance, or rape" was committed by Israel, so we're well within our rights to continue to assist them with funding whether a Jew-hater like you likes it or not!

However, it IS proven that Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS, HAVE done ALL those crimes you claim Israel did and were still fully funded by Iran...that is, until President Trump and Bibi chose to do something about it!  And you happily accept it when another country does it, but use your own biased opinion to claim the exact opposite every time.

• Definition & Purpose: Named after Senator Patrick Leahy, this U.S. legislation (10 U.S.C. 2378d and 22 U.S.C. 2378d) bans funding for military units that commit gross violations of human rights, including torture, rape, and extrajudicial killings

jerrab » Today, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:10 pm

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The Leahy Law prohibits U.S. assistance to foreign security force units credibly implicated in gross human rights violations, a standard that critics and some U.S. lawmakers argue should halt aid to certain Israeli military units involved in alleged abuse, including home demolitions and forced evictions of Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. While hundreds of incidents have been flagged, the U.S. has historically been slow to formally apply this law to Israeli forces. 
dawnmena.org +4
Key Aspects regarding the Leahy Law and Israel:

• Definition & Purpose: Named after Senator Patrick Leahy, this U.S. legislation (10 U.S.C. 2378d and 22 U.S.C. 2378d) bans funding for military units that commit gross violations of human rights, including torture, rape, and extrajudicial killings

Zeets2 » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

3 minutes ago

It's obvious to anyone then that since the law was NOT invoked, the US HAS NOT FOUND that Israel has been implicated in gross human rights violations, doesn't it?  And just because a few Jew-hating Congressmen believe otherwise as you do, it is insufficient to override the majority who clearly believe otherwise.

But you keep right on trying, Jew-hater!  
We love your spunk!

*Roshambo » Today, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:01 pm

Zeets2, President Obama adapted an existing outdoor tennis court by having court lines painted and portable hoops added, a modification that was paid for out of the Obamas' personal funds. Viral claims asserting that a new basketball court cost taxpayers millions are the result of a misattributed 2010 White House infrastructure project. That project—which was actually approved by Congress in 2008 before Obama took office—funded urgent structural repairs to the building's aging plumbing, electrical, and cooling systems.

Fact: Israel has never officially confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons.
Question: Why no inspections for Israel.    

Israel is a Terror Regime, they killed thousands of children in Gaza. Iran needs to defend itself against this TERROR REGIME. Immoral sick monsters.

A nuclear-armed Iran would equalize the balance of power and potentially establish peace in the Middle East. A nuclear-armed Iran would serve as a deterrent:
1. to prevent a conventional assault from a non-nuclear regional power
2. to dissuade an openly nuclear regional state—currently only Pakistan and India
3. to deter Israel; or to dissuade a significant external power, particularly the United States, but theoretically also Russia.

Balls       

Iran has Trump by the balls       

jerrab » Yesterday, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 3:00 pm

all it proves is that aipac money is working.