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Well...if the shoe fits. It's almost impossible to say one way or another without strong evidence. However, we can look at the history of his support for Zionism.

Is being a Zionist bad? Yes.

It's rooted in nothing less than entitlement. Here is Zionism in very simple terms: 

Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a homeland or state in Israel.

So Jews are the only ones that get to lay claim on a land that their ancestors owned. If we are going to agree with this, then we need to give American soil back to the Indians. For those of you who support Zionism, are you willing to give up your property for the indigenous people? Yeah...I didn't think so. 

Zionism = entitlement and theft. Period. 

Here is Trump's history of supporting this entitlement:

Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and moved the U.S. embassy there in 2018. His own White House described this as fulfilling a promise and “acknowledg[ing] the obvious: that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital.”

 He recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights in 2019, a major break from previous U.S. policy and a major gift to the Israeli right.

 He also helped broker the Abraham Accords, normalizing relations between Israel and the UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, and Morocco, which his administration presented as a major pro-Israel diplomatic achievement.

 
 

Trump is pretty pissed off at Bibi.. It's becoming obvious he knows he got trolled into taking us into this war.

Trump isn't a zionist.
He's the zionists puppet.
Bibi has his own copy of the Epstein files and uses them like a shock collar on trump.
Trump is Netanyahu's little bitch.

JohnnyYou » 10 Jun 2026, 3:27 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 3:27 am

Trump is pretty pissed off at Bibi.. It's becoming obvious he knows he got trolled into taking us into this war.

Probably, but being pissed at Bibi isn't enough. He needs to withdraw and tell Bibi to fight his own war. 

Vegas » 09 Jun 2026, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2026, 7:30 pm

Well...if the shoe fits. It's almost impossible to say one way or another without strong evidence. However, we can look at the history of his support for Zionism.

Is being a Zionist bad? Yes.

It's rooted in nothing less than entitlement. Here is Zionism in very simple terms: 

So Jews are the only ones that get to lay claim on a land that their ancestors owned. If we are going to agree with this, then we need to give American soil back to the Indians. For those of you who support Zionism, are you willing to give up your property for the indigenous people? Yeah...I didn't think so. 

Zionism = entitlement and theft. Period. 

Here is Trump's history of supporting this entitlement:

Not sure but there is a neighborhood called Trump Heights in Israel. . 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Heights

Squatchman » 10 Jun 2026, 4:16 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 4:16 am

Trump isn't a zionist.
He's the zionists puppet.
Bibi has his own copy of the Epstein files and uses them like a shock collar on trump.
Trump is Netanyahu's little bitch.

Shock collar snick snick   

*Roshambo » 10 Jun 2026, 12:10 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:10 pm

Not sure but there is a neighborhood called Trump Heights in Israel. . 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Heights

I heard about that. Trump's children will probably be inheriting it to build on.

Vegas » 10 Jun 2026, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:12 pm

I heard about that. Trump's children will probably be inheriting it to build on.

Trump might be buried there if there is a tax advantage.

*Roshambo » 10 Jun 2026, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:19 pm

Trump might be buried there if there is a tax advantage.

I saw this video about how wealthy people are able to dodge certain taxes. It's amazing the lengths they will go. When do they have time to run their empire when they are spending so much time finding ways to dodge the taxes? I can't recall all the details, but they will buy yachts and original artwork because it allows a tax shelter of some sort. Many fortune 500 companies can get away with paying $0.00 in federal tax. They have good accountants and are able to get their fed tax to 0. Amazon and Walmart are especially proficient at that.

Vegas » 10 Jun 2026, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:24 pm

I saw this video about how wealthy people are able to dodge certain taxes. It's amazing the lengths they will go. When do they have time to run their empire when they are spending so much time finding ways to dodge the taxes? I can't recall all the details, but they will buy yachts and original artwork because it allows a tax shelter of some sort. Many fortune 500 companies can get away with paying $0.00 in federal tax. They have good accountants and are able to get their fed tax to 0. Amazon and Walmart are especially proficient at that.

When you hear of a multi billion dollar corporation or a billionaire not paying taxes, what do you think? I think a mandatory minimum tax is needed.

*Roshambo » 10 Jun 2026, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:42 pm

When you hear of a multi billion dollar corporation or a billionaire not paying taxes, what do you think? I think a mandatory minimum tax is needed.

Yes, but it goes much deeper than that. You are not wrong. A minimum tax would help. However, the root of the problem still remains. Big companies still pay low wages which increase their profit margin. We can require a minimum tax, but that tax doesn't help the worker. They are still hungry. There are a lot of issues that go into it. I have my ideas, but my ideas would never come into fruition. They are not friendly toward the big corps and lobbyists. Since those guys have the power, my ideas don't stand a chance.

*Roshambo » 10 Jun 2026, 12:42 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 12:42 pm

When you hear of a multi billion dollar corporation or a billionaire not paying taxes, what do you think? I think a mandatory minimum tax is needed.

I think it's good, who wants to pay more for a company's products because they have to tack on the government's grift?

 

RebelGator » 10 Jun 2026, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 1:24 pm

I think it's good, who wants to pay more for a company's products because they have to tack on the government's grift?

The 39T deficit disagrees with you.
 

*Roshambo » 10 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 1:29 pm

The 39T deficit disagrees with you.

I don't plan on buying your debt, as an advocate, why don't you pay extra?
 

Vegas » 10 Jun 2026, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 11:59 am

Probably, but being pissed at Bibi isn't enough. He needs to withdraw and tell Bibi to fight his own war.

Well, he was unable to disregard Bibi's trolling to get us into the war.

You  know he won't take that pill.  No matter how bad it destroys the global economy.

Vegas » 09 Jun 2026, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2026, 7:30 pm

Well...if the shoe fits. It's almost impossible to say one way or another without strong evidence. However, we can look at the history of his support for Zionism.

Is being a Zionist bad? Yes.

It's rooted in nothing less than entitlement. Here is Zionism in very simple terms: 

So Jews are the only ones that get to lay claim on a land that their ancestors owned. If we are going to agree with this, then we need to give American soil back to the Indians. For those of you who support Zionism, are you willing to give up your property for the indigenous people? Yeah...I didn't think so. 

Zionism = entitlement and theft. Period. 

Here is Trump's history of supporting this entitlement:

I am no fan of the zionists, but there is a small fly in your ointment. 

Those who believe these ashkenazis are the original Israelites and not imposters are not saying the jews should have the state of Israel because their ancestors owned it. If they were, then your give America back to the savages response would apply.

They are saying the jews should have that land because GOD ALMIGHTY IN HEAVEN WHOM THEY WORSHIP proclaimed it in the BIBLE THEY HOLD AS HIS EVERLASTING WORD. 

That's an important difference. 
 

Cannonpointer » 10 Jun 2026, 2:17 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 2:17 pm

I am no fan of the zionists, but there is a small fly in your ointment. 

Those who believe these ashkenazis are the original Israelites and not imposters are not saying the jews should have the state of Israel because their ancestors owned it. If they were, then your give America back to the savages response would apply.

They are saying the jews should have that land because GOD ALMIGHTY IN HEAVEN WHOM THEY WORSHIP proclaimed it in the BIBLE THEY HOLD AS HIS EVERLASTING WORD. 

That's an important difference.

Good point. Be that as it may, the pro-Zionist will still need to be willing to sacrifice something to be consistent. They will need to concede to any religion who believes that. Including Islam. They have passages in their doctrine that support that their almighty Allah demands the death of the Western infidels. So...if they are going to stand by the Zionist's logic, then they need to stand by Islam's belief also.

Vegas » 10 Jun 2026, 2:24 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Jun 2026, 2:24 pm

Good point. Be that as it may, the pro-Zionist will still need to be willing to sacrifice something to be consistent. They will need to concede to any religion who believes that. Including Islam. They have passages in their doctrine that support that their almighty Allah demands the death of the Western infidels. So...if they are going to stand by the Zionist's logic, then they need to stand by Islam's belief also.

Generally speaking, Christians have been more inclined to go on crusades against mohammedans than to agree with their articles of faith.