Is it more harmful to have a third party run when it makes democracy mathematically impossible?

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By Vegas
14 Jun 2026 11:40 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerra b
19 Jun 2026 9:59 am
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Vegas » 14 Jun 2026, 11:40 am » wrote: Some simple math that even @Blackvegetable  might understand...well I doubt he will, but the rest of you can get it. 

Assume we have three candidates that won the following percentage of votes:

Candidate A: 32%
Candidate B: 30%
Candidate C: 38%

So candidate C wins. But 32% + 30% = 62%. So that means 62% of society didn't want candidate C and only 38% did. That doesn't seem much like a majority rules outcome. Though I understand we don't have a pure democracy, we have a republic. Be that as it may, even as a republic and with an electoral college, the mathematical outcome will always be the same. 

I guess no electoral system is perfect.
same thing as two parties. Candidate a gets 48 per cent, candidate b gets 52 per cent and wins so 48 per cent don't want him.
 
 
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19 Jun 2026 10:00 am
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jerrab » 19 Jun 2026, 9:59 am » wrote: sane thing as two parties. Candidate a gets 48 per cent, candidate b gets 52 per cent and wins so 48 per cent don't want him.
Yep. That's why I said there is no prefect voting system. A third party just makes a bad system worse.
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19 Jun 2026 10:22 am
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Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:00 am » wrote: Yep. That's why I said there is no prefect voting system. A third party just makes a bad system worse.

not worse, the same. Tucker could win, get votes from both parties. Many are tired of aipac.
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19 Jun 2026 10:25 am
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jerrab » 19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am » wrote: not worse, the same. Tucker could win, get votes from both parties. Many are tired of aipac.
Yes, but the math still says that the majority of the country didn't want him. Well, actually to be fair, if the votes break a threshold of 30% + on all parties, then the math works. It could break down as 85%-10%-5%, etc...However, that is unlikely. 
 
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19 Jun 2026 10:34 am
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Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:25 am » wrote: Yes, but the math still says that the majority of the country didn't want him. Well, actually to be fair, if the votes break a threshold of 30% + on all parties, then the math works. It could break down as 85%-10%-5%, etc...However, that is unlikely.

lllllllYes, Tucker Carlson could mathematically and politically win the presidency, as he commands a massive national following and has seen his Polymarket odds for the Republican nomination surge to nearly 10%.llllll
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19 Jun 2026 10:36 am
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jerrab » 19 Jun 2026, 10:34 am » wrote: lllllllYes, Tucker Carlson could mathematically and politically win the presidency, as he commands a massive national following and has seen his Polymarket odds for the Republican nomination surge to nearly 10%.llllll
True. It's possible. 
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19 Jun 2026 11:13 am
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Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:36 am » wrote: True. It's possible.

if he concentrates on removing aipac and not on other things he could win.
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19 Jun 2026 11:28 am
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jerrab » 19 Jun 2026, 11:13 am » wrote: if he concentrates on removing aipac and not on other things he could win.
I agree. It goes deeper than one president though. It's unlikely he would get Congress to go along with his goals, since they are tied into AIPAC. So he would need to write executive orders after executive orders.
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Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 11:28 am » wrote: I agree. It goes deeper than one president though. It's unlikely he would get Congress to go along with his goals, since they are tied into AIPAC. So he would need to write executive orders after executive orders.

trump started the iran war without congress
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