Why modern debate methods are useless. You end up like Charlie Kirk, K'fools, and BV. Hence, no truth.

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ROG62 » 17 Jun 2026, 3:27 pm » wrote: #feelsthreatened
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yeah you :lol: --->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.
Yer…. Entertaining and I make you :x . Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.
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Good one Johnny!
JuCo is exactly as you described it to be.

JuCo. #mangina

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yeah you :lol: --->Read me : ) Send me your address. You been dodging me boy.
Yer…. Entertaining and I make you :x . Look at you chasing me like a little puppy begging his master for attention. I should piss on the floor, rub your nose in it. You are Persistent, do better. Remember that.
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*Roshambo » 18 Jun 2026, 11:42 am » wrote: Good one Johnny!
JuCo is exactly as you described it to be.

JuCo. #mangina

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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 7:10 am » wrote: This is a pile of blather..

The "ancient Greeks" didn't run from all questions....Questions are an essential part of any dialogue in pursuit of Truth.


 
Yeah,no ****. So why don't you answer any so we can have a DIOLGUE to reach the truth? It goes both ways you cowardly POS. 

1. Just stop with that pic already. Enough!
 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 5:33 am » wrote: @Vegas  should be aborted...

That hurts my feelings. 
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 4:56 am » wrote: Truth starts with facts....
No ****. Then level 2+ starts from there. You barely reach level 1, then demand someone else to conduct level 2+ from there, while you drill them with 500k questions/demand and answer none.
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 17 Jun 2026, 11:35 am » wrote: I read a lot of ancient Greek philosophy. I believe they understood what debate meant. Their one goal was to arrive at the truth. Even if it was a small bit. They considered that an enormous victory. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras ( highly intelligent, but also an asshole), Parmenides, Zeno, and many others had only one goal when debating. To help each other arrive at the truth. If they arrived at an irrefutable conclusion, then they all won. If not, then they kept trying. 

Today? It's about a winner and a loser. It's not about finding the truth. Hell, someone can be completely full of ****, but still declared a winner of a debate simply because they talk cunningly and know how to manipulate the conversation more than their opponent. Yet, they are still full of ****. 

The most common tactic that thse ignorant sleazy fools use these days is to respond to questions with questions, avoid answering directly, and make the other person defend themselves instead.  

We all know @Blackvegetable  does this. K'fools (Andrew Wilson) does it repeatedly. Charlie Kirk did it incessantly.
It is not the method but the men who make the difference. The men whose argumentation you rightly hold as the ideal were ubermenschen, likely with some mysterious access to stimulating their pineal gands. The men you rightly point to as failures are in fact apprentice ****-gibbons.

You cannot compare ubermenschen to apprentice **** gibbons, and then blame the measuring stick for the difference. If the apprentice ****-gibbons DID use the Socratic Method, it would be a disaster. To the untrained, it would refute the Socratic Method itself. Only those with zoology degrees would recognize the real problem - **** slingers.

Well, apprentice **** slingers. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 18 Jun 2026, 3:01 pm » wrote: It is not the method but the men who make the difference. The men whose argumentation you rightly hold as the ideal were ubermenschen, likely with some mysterious access to stimulating their pineal gands. The men you rightly point to as failures are in fact apprentice ****-gibbons.

You cannot compare ubermenschen to apprentice **** gibbons, and then blame the measuring stick for the difference. If the apprentice ****-gibbons DID use the Socratic Method, it would be a disaster. To the untrained, it would refute the Socratic Method itself. Only those with zoology degrees would recognize the real problem - **** slingers.

Well, apprentice **** slingers.
Truth be told, I really don't know what you said here, but for some reason it was still hilarious anyway.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 18 Jun 2026, 3:03 pm » wrote: Truth be told, I really don't know what you said here, but for some reason it was still hilarious anyway.  Image   Image   Image   Image
That was my own take away, precisely.

I have never held myself to the strict standard of knowing what I'm saying.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 18 Jun 2026, 3:01 pm » wrote: It is not the method but the men who make the difference. The men whose argumentation you rightly hold as the ideal were ubermenschen, likely with some mysterious access to stimulating their pineal gands. The men you rightly point to as failures are in fact apprentice ****-gibbons.

You cannot compare ubermenschen to apprentice **** gibbons, and then blame the measuring stick for the difference. If the apprentice ****-gibbons DID use the Socratic Method, it would be a disaster. To the untrained, it would refute the Socratic Method itself. Only those with zoology degrees would recognize the real problem - **** slingers.

Well, apprentice **** slingers.
Socrates was known to keep a fat kid on a rope to cry 

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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 4:42 pm » wrote: Socrates was known to keep a fat kid on a rope to cry 

οὐκ ἔστιν ἐρωτήματα, λουτὴρ σφαίρας!
I am familiar with that cry. But chatgpt isn't. It rendered it:

There are no questions, bather of the sphere!
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Vegas » 17 Jun 2026, 11:35 am » wrote: I read a lot of ancient Greek philosophy. I believe they understood what debate meant. Their one goal was to arrive at the truth. Even if it was a small bit. They considered that an enormous victory. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras ( highly intelligent, but also an asshole), Parmenides, Zeno, and many others had only one goal when debating. To help each other arrive at the truth. If they arrived at an irrefutable conclusion, then they all won. If not, then they kept trying. 

Today? It's about a winner and a loser. It's not about finding the truth. Hell, someone can be completely full of ****, but still declared a winner of a debate simply because they talk cunningly and know how to manipulate the conversation more than their opponent. Yet, they are still full of ****. 

The most common tactic that thse ignorant sleazy fools use these days is to respond to questions with questions, avoid answering directly, and make the other person defend themselves instead.  

We all know @Blackvegetable  does this. K'fools (Andrew Wilson) does it repeatedly. Charlie Kirk did it incessantly.
If BV is nothing but a sophist, why does he ALWAYS nail it?


Every single time..



 
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Blackvegetable » 19 Jun 2026, 5:59 am » wrote: If BV is nothing but a sophist, why does he ALWAYS nail it?

Every single time..
You couldn't nail your foot to the floor.
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RebelGator » 19 Jun 2026, 6:02 am » wrote: You couldn't nail your foot to the floor.
I bet you can....because you practice every day.

Try nailing your head to a coffee table. 
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Blackvegetable » 19 Jun 2026, 6:09 am » wrote: I bet you can....because you practice every day.

Try nailing your head to a coffee table.
He would point the gun the wrong way.and hit his dick.

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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 4:42 pm » wrote: Socrates was known to keep a fat kid on a rope to cry 

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I have heard the sex lives of the rich and famous Ancient Greeks would make today's pedophiles look like saints.

I guess I'll pull the inflatable hot tub out.  We are supposed to have nights in the mid 60's here.  God Lord, did Peter Thiel take every air conditioner with him to Argnetina? I bet the skiing is fantastic down there.

How we lucked out to be in a cool spot is fine with me..

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Blackvegetable » 19 Jun 2026, 5:59 am » wrote: If BV is nothing but a sophist, why does he ALWAYS nail it?

Every single time..
Not even once.
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2026, 7:00 am » wrote: You can click on it...
you can tell me…

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