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@Cannonpointer  posted a good OP recently about terms between Iran and the US. However, I have heard so many times that Iran has finally made a deal...oh whoops, not quite. Kind of...absolutely maybe...nah, no deal. Oh wait...yep, we got a deal...sort of...


At this point, I don't believe ****. I am going to believe our history in keeping with tradition when it comes to the middle East. We are there to stay for the next 30 years. 

One question to ask. If Iran had a nuke, would they use it?

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am

@Cannonpointer  posted a good OP recently about terms between Iran and the US. However, I have heard so many times that Iran has finally made a deal...oh whoops, not quite. Kind of...absolutely maybe...nah, no deal. Oh wait...yep, we got a deal...sort of...

At this point, I don't believe ****. I am going to believe our history in keeping with tradition when it comes to the middle East. We are there to stay for the next 30 years.

Oh, we have a deal.

We MUST have a deal - else how can we possibly reneg?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 19 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:06 pm

Oh, we have a deal.

We MUST have a deal - else how can we possibly reneg?

Well if I am right, then we will need to wait 30 years. Lol

PhiloBeddo » 19 Jun 2026, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 10:47 am

One question to ask. If Iran had a nuke, would they use it?

Yes. On Israel. Oh well. Karma is a bitch. 

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am

We are there to stay for the next 30 years.

We aren't there now.

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:25 pm

Yes. On Israel. Oh well. Karma is a bitch.

israel would use it first. that is why iran wanted to have it in case israel used theirs
 

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am

@Cannonpointer  posted a good OP recently about terms between Iran and the US. However, I have heard so many times that Iran has finally made a deal...oh whoops, not quite. Kind of...absolutely maybe...nah, no deal. Oh wait...yep, we got a deal...sort of...

At this point, I don't believe ****. I am going to believe our history in keeping with tradition when it comes to the middle East. We are there to stay for the next 30 years.

Those terms are just a starting point. The JCPOA took 2 years to negotiate. Trump doesn't have that kind of patience.

First item I would knock off the list is Hezbollah. Let Israel finish them.

There are 19 US Bases within 1000 miles of Iran, we already are there.

I would agree with you though, it's best to just let it play out. 
 

RebelGator » 19 Jun 2026, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:25 pm

We aren't there now.

You didn't notice the fleet of aircraft carriers we have there?

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 2:21 pm

You didn't notice the fleet of aircraft carriers we have there?

The have to be somewhere, don't they?

jerrab » 19 Jun 2026, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:49 pm

israel would use it first. that is why iran wanted to have it in case israel used theirs

Absolutely ****.

RebelGator » 19 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 2:55 pm

The have to be somewhere, don't they?

Yeah...in Iran for the next 30 years. 

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 3:57 pm

Yeah...in Iran for the next 30 years.

Write Congress, tell them you prefer a stadium being nuked.

Vegas » 19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 10:22 am

@Cannonpointer  posted a good OP recently about terms between Iran and the US. However, I have heard so many times that Iran has finally made a deal...oh whoops, not quite. Kind of...absolutely maybe...nah, no deal. Oh wait...yep, we got a deal...sort of...

At this point, I don't believe ****. I am going to believe our history in keeping with tradition when it comes to the middle East. We are there to stay for the next 30 years.

Agreed.
Seems like bombing doesn't really hurt the oil fields so it's still worth an extended stay.

As long as we leave the oily whales alone bumping off a few innocents (humans) is ok.
Oily sand isn't endangered.

Lefties don't want so many people around anyway. Wait... Are lefties for or against killing people?
I forget . . .  
BlaVe's always talking about killing people so I since figure he is the prince of stupid, killing be good.
 

DeezerShoove » 19 Jun 2026, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 4:57 pm

Agreed.
Seems like bombing doesn't really hurt the oil fields so it's still worth an extended stay.

As long as we leave the oily whales alone bumping off a few innocents (humans) is ok.
Oily sand isn't endangered.

Lefties don't want so many people around anyway. Wait... Are lefties for or against killing people?
I forget . . .  
BlaVe's always talking about killing people so I since figure he is the prince of stupid, killing be good.

         
 

RebelGator » 19 Jun 2026, 2:56 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 2:56 pm

Absolutely ****.

it is common knowledge that israel could blow iran to smithirines and not get into trouble 

RebelGator » 19 Jun 2026, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 4:07 pm

Write Congress, tell them you prefer a stadium being nuked.

How much Kool-aid have you chugged? 

Fuelman » 19 Jun 2026, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:57 pm

Those terms are just a starting point. The JCPOA took 2 years to negotiate. Trump doesn't have that kind of patience.

First item I would knock off the list is Hezbollah. Let Israel finish them.

How long has israel been trying to do that?

You say it as if it is a simple matter. It isn't.

Not long ago, israel's cheerleaders thought hezbollah was finished - their leadership decapitated. Trump's military thought the same of Iran.

TODAY, Israel is being told to behave by Trump - and Hezbollah is being told the same by Iran.

If EITHER side could destroy the other, they'd have done it years ago.

"Let Israel finish them." They've been trying and failing for decades. "Let israel finish them" is based on the lie that israel can - whether deliberate or stupid I cannot say.

Fuelman » 19 Jun 2026, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 1:57 pm

There are 19 US Bases within 1000 miles of Iran, we already are there.

There are that many us bases within a thousand miles of ANYWHERE. But the ones within a few hundred miles no longer count - they were bombed to rubble .

If the US could crush Iran without resorting to means so scandalous that the fire would cost more than the meal was worth, it would have done so. It CLEARLY tried and failed - and now, Trump is making the best of it. And so is Iran - they're getting paid. The very BEST deal Trump can make takes the US boot off of Iran's neck - and puts the US lapdog israel in its place.

DeezerShoove » 19 Jun 2026, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 4:57 pm

Agreed.
Seems like bombing doesn't really hurt the oil fields so it's still worth an extended stay.

As long as we leave the oily whales alone bumping off a few innocents (humans) is ok.
Oily sand isn't endangered.

Lefties don't want so many people around anyway. Wait... Are lefties for or against killing people?
I forget . . .  
BlaVe's always talking about killing people so I since figure he is the prince of stupid, killing be good.

Don't be looking for that weak *** to take any kind of stand on what is happening over there. 

He'll disappoint you as he disappointed his poor mother and his poor daughter.

He ASSURES me that she is perfectly okay with delusional men, naked in her public shower. But then, his little *** buddy made the same dishonest claim before I cornered him in the same room with his daughter. That was a fine, fine day. I'd love to do the same with that *** beevee, but the odds of getting his daughter into the same room as him are probably extremely low. 
 

Cannonpointer » 19 Jun 2026, 9:02 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jun 2026, 9:02 pm

Don't be looking for that weak *** to take any kind of stand on what is happening over there. 

He'll disappoint you as he disappointed his poor mother and his poor daughter.

He ASSURES me that she is perfectly okay with delusional men, naked in her public shower. But then, his little *** buddy made the same dishonest claim before I cornered him in the same room with his daughter. That was a fine, fine day. I'd love to do the same with that *** beevee, but the odds of getting his daughter into the same room as him are probably extremely low.

You sense (as I do) a slight disfunction in the Vegetable household?

"little *** buddy" . . . You must be referring to the manchild SxS.