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Here is the neutral definition of Zionism...lame *** definition, but here it is:

Zionism is the belief or movement that the Jewish people have a right to national self-determination in their ancestral homeland, historically centered on the Land of Israel/Palestine, and today usually expressed as support for the existence and security of a Jewish state, Israel.

The native Americans inhabited the land in America long before the colonists arrived. We came. We saw. We kicked their asses. Which...yeah, I know. War sucks, but I am grateful for it.

Question:  Given this definition, would you all be willing to give up your land , so they can have a right to national self-determination in their ancestral-homeland?

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 10:42 am

Here is the neutral definition of Zionism...lame *** definition, but here it is:

The native Americans inhabited the land in America long before the colonists arrived. We came. We saw. We kicked their asses. Which...yeah, I know. War sucks, but I am grateful for it.

Question:  Given this definition, would you all be willing to give up your land , so they can have a right to national self-determination in their ancestral-homeland?

The Jews have G_d on their side…the injuns? Not so much….
 

ROG62 » 06 Jul 2026, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 10:44 am

The Jews have G_d on their side…the injuns? Not so much….

Actually, they have Satan on their side. Satan managed to convince America that they had God on their side. 

ROG62 » 06 Jul 2026, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 10:44 am

The Jews have G_d on their side…the injuns? Not so much….

Dumb ****. They don't. 

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 10:45 am

Actually, they have Satan on their side. Satan managed to convince America that they had God on their side.

by saying God gave israel to the jews in genesis but also in genesis Noah was told to take 2 of all animals and in another part take only some animals by 2's and other animals by 7's.

I would take the old testament with a grain of salt.

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:18 am

by saying God gave israel to the jews in genesis but also in genesis Noah was told to take 2 of all animals and in another part take only some animals by 2's and other animals by 7's.

I would take the old testament with a grain of salt.

Put the text that confuses you into AI and ask the meaning. You very well could be misinterpreting things. The Old Testament isn't easy to understand sometimes. 

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:11 am

Dumb ****. They don't.

They do…prophesied and fulfilled…dumb ****…
 

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:18 am

by saying God gave israel to the jews in genesis but also in genesis Noah was told to take 2 of all animals and in another part take only some animals by 2's and other animals by 7's.

I would take the old testament with a grain of salt.

of course you would, pagan…

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am

Put the text that confuses you into AI and ask the meaning. You very well could be misinterpreting things. The Old Testament isn't easy to understand sometimes.

Most definitely…  

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am

Put the text that confuses you into AI and ask the meaning. You very well could be misinterpreting things. The Old Testament isn't easy to understand sometimes.

It is clear. 

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am

Put the text that confuses you into AI and ask the meaning. You very well could be misinterpreting things. The Old Testament isn't easy to understand sometimes.

From ai ///////


The contradictions in Genesis stem from two different traditions:

• The Ark's Animal Count: The text has conflicting instructions. Reddit shows a consensus that some passages require two of every species, while others specify seven pairs of clean animals and one pair of unclean animal

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:31 am

It is clear.

No it isn't. Nothing is ever clear from the Old Testament. For example, the universe was created in 7 days. That appears clear. 7 days. However, that is not how the Hebrew text was written. A day was not a 24 hour period. It was an era or a period of time. Kind of like saying "way back in my day" or "remember the good old days?" That is not meant to be interpreted as a 24 hour day. It is meant to be interpreted as a period of time. 

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:35 am

From ai ///////

The contradictions in Genesis stem from two different traditions:

• The Ark's Animal Count: The text has conflicting instructions. Reddit shows a consensus that some passages require two of every species, while others specify seven pairs of clean animals and one pair of unclean animal

Something tells me that there was more to AIs response to this. Also, what is wrong with the interpretation?
 

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:36 am

Something tells me that there was more to AIs response to this. Also, what is wrong with the interpretation?

which one?

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:41 am

which one?

The one that you posted. 

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:36 am

No it isn't. Nothing is ever clear from the Old Testament. For example, the universe was created in 7 days. That appears clear. 7 days. However, that is not how the Hebrew text was written. A day was not a 24 hour period. It was an era or a period of time. Kind of like saying "way back in my day" or "remember the good old days?" That is not meant to be interpreted as a 24 hour day. It is meant to be interpreted as a period of time.

I never mentioned this

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:42 am

The one that you posted.

there were 2

jerrab » 06 Jul 2026, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:42 am

I never mentioned this

I know. My point was to give an example of how easy it is to misinterpret the Old Testament and chalk things up to "it's pretty clear" when it isn't always clear at all. 

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:21 am

Put the text that confuses you into AI and ask the meaning. You very well could be misinterpreting things. The Old Testament isn't easy to understand sometimes.

Ai///////////

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Noah's Animals: Genesis chapter 6 dictates bringing "two of every kind" (one male and one female). However, Genesis chapter 7 later specifies bringing seven pairs of clean animals and birds, and only one pair of unclean

Vegas » 06 Jul 2026, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jul 2026, 11:44 am

I know. My point was to give an example of how easy it is to misinterpret the Old Testament and chalk things up to "it's pretty clear" when it isn't always clear at all.

it could not be more clear than this//////////



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Noah's Animals: Genesis chapter 6 dictates bringing "two of every kind" (one male and one female). However, Genesis chapter 7 later specifies bringing seven pairs of clean animals and birds, and only one pair of unclean