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NOT sure how to consider this... after Trump announced that the Kurds had stolen the initial shipments of rifles meant for the Iranian citizens militia.  The Kurdish forces operating along the Iran-Iraq border are considered one of the most prominent armed opposition groups confronting the regime in Tehran, AND, reports are that they have NOW MOVED deeper into Iran, and AGAINST the IRGC fighters !!  

MIGHT be a good sign !

 https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran- ... cle-888881
 

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:24 pm

NOT sure how to consider this... after Trump announced that the Kurds had stolen the initial shipments of rifles meant for the Iranian citizens militia.  The Kurdish forces operating along the Iran-Iraq border are considered one of the most prominent armed opposition groups confronting the regime in Tehran, AND, reports are that they have NOW MOVED deeper into Iran, and AGAINST the IRGC fighters !!  

MIGHT be a good sign !

 https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran- ... cle-888881

MARCH 4, 2026 23:32

         

 
 
 

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:24 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:24 pm

NOT sure how to consider this... after Trump announced that the Kurds had stolen the initial shipments of rifles meant for the Iranian citizens militia.  The Kurdish forces operating along the Iran-Iraq border are considered one of the most prominent armed opposition groups confronting the regime in Tehran, AND, reports are that they have NOW MOVED deeper into Iran, and AGAINST the IRGC fighters !!  

MIGHT be a good sign !

 https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran- ... cle-888881

 I am sure the Trump team will find away to get into a fight with them.

People understand the art of his deal is a ripoff con job.
 
 
 

*Roshambo » 11 Jul 2026, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:28 pm

MARCH 4, 2026 23:32

         

 

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!


 

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!

I personally don't like idiots like you who claim to be a geopolitical experts..
 
You never have any sources for anything you claim.  We all know you watch bullshyt news.

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!

bed-wetter   
MARCH 4, 2026 23:32
           
 
 

*Roshambo » 11 Jul 2026, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 2:07 pm

bed-wetter   
MARCH 4, 2026 23:32
         

This place is dead man..  The MAGAts must rest their weary empty heads..  

I can barely stay awake anymore..

https://youtu.be/qhVb4t4PG8U?si=wVvPSayv84XyNmAy
 

JohnnyYou » 11 Jul 2026, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 2:01 pm

I personally don't like idiots like you who claim to be a geopolitical experts..
 
You never have any sources for anything you claim.  We all know you watch bullshyt news.

I'm not an expert... I just

1)  READ,
2)  TRY to understand WHO is truthful and who are the LIARS,
3)  If evidence is corroborated or from good sources,
4)  I may post it or REFUTE Trump haters who don't give a CRAP about Truth, and supplement it with FACTS !

I KNOW it pi$$es lying scumbags like you OFF... but, Ces't la vie !!

OH... and personally... I prefer THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1O4YXS ... L1Qdgl7L_p

 
 

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!

Trump has nothing to do with it.

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!

//////--------xxxxxxxxxxThe United States and Iran are preparing to finalise a peace deal that would end their war – at least for the time being – as well as Israel’s bombing of Lebanon.Many key details remain to be negotiated, including the future of Iran’s nuclear program. Another issue that remains uncertain – how the deal will impact the Kurdish minority in northern Iran.The United States and Israel have failed to achieve the main goal of their war: overthrowing the Islamic regime in Tehran. US President Donald Trump is now under pressure to end the war as quickly as possible – and answer for its failures.Instead, in recent days, he has reiterated an allegation the US sent weapons to the Kurds in the early days of the war to help overthrow the regime. Trump claims the Kurds kept the weapons for themselves///////xxxxxxxx

JohnnyYou » 11 Jul 2026, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 7:19 pm

This place is dead man..  The MAGAts must rest their weary empty heads..  

I can barely stay awake anymore..

https://youtu.be/qhVb4t4PG8U?si=wVvPSayv84XyNmAy

You left at least once. Why are you here?

CP put up a thread with a long video on the Iran conflict.
It recounts much of the history leading up to current events going back to Prez Bammy.

What I did not glean from this hour long lecture was "Why do we want to surround Iran?"
The guy makes some great observations but also steadfastly says in so many words that Iran is faultless.

Discuss. (without those stupid music vids)  
 
 

ConservativeWave » 11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 1:55 pm

HA!!  YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump has a DOZEN integrated plans to VICTORY in Iran... when MOST Democrats, would have given up at the news report around 3 years ago that: "Iran is 6 months away from a NUCLEAR BOMB" !

YOU just don't like it that Donald Trump HAS WON, IS WINNING, OR IS GOING to WIN... EVERY THING he SAID he would, and THAT he started since becoming President !!

WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE... America is BETTER for it !!

Nothing to do with trump./////----Six Kurdish fighters killed in IRGC ambush as clashes spread across western Iran//////


you don't mess with the kurds

JohnnyYou » 11 Jul 2026, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 7:19 pm

This place is dead man..  The MAGAts must rest their weary empty heads..  

I can barely stay awake anymore..

https://youtu.be/qhVb4t4PG8U?si=wVvPSayv84XyNmAy

Johnny,
There is one person that has multiple SOCs. That person hasn't been here since Friday morning. I am not talking about CP.
 

*Roshambo » 12 Jul 2026, 4:15 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2026, 4:15 am

Johnny,
There is one person that has multiple SOCs. That person hasn't been here since Friday morning. I am not talking about CP.

I can't think of who that may be.. but don't tell me..

I noticed BV has dashes on his last login and remembered that you can select to not show if you are online.. Last post from Seven was Jun 15th.. So maybe our friend will come back and was just suspended for pissing CP off. Frenemies.. you gotta have them for perspective.

Big news that Lindsey Graham is gone..  Sounds like a special election has to happen pretty stat.

 
 

DeezerShoove » 11 Jul 2026, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 9:20 pm

You left at least once. Why are you here?

CP put up a thread with a long video on the Iran conflict.
It recounts much of the history leading up to current events going back to Prez Bammy.

What I did not glean from this hour long lecture was "Why do we want to surround Iran?"
The guy makes some great observations but also steadfastly says in so many words that Iran is faultless.

Discuss. (without those stupid music vids)

I watched about 20 minutes of the 54 minute video..  I learned nothing new. And it was Esptien NO FUN.

JohnnyYou » 12 Jul 2026, 4:59 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2026, 4:59 am

I watched about 20 minutes of the 54 minute video..  I learned nothing new. And it was Esptien NO FUN.

So you know everything.
Why surround Iran?
Discuss.

DeezerShoove » 12 Jul 2026, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2026, 6:37 am

So you know everything.
Why surround Iran?
Discuss.

There was no imminent nuclear threat..  There should have never been a war.  Now we got one for decades.

I actually enjoyed the Kurdish music. Iran would not let them play it for decades.
 
 

jerrab » 11 Jul 2026, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2026, 8:19 pm

//////--------xxxxxxxxxxThe United States and Iran are preparing to finalise a peace deal that would end their war – at least for the time being – as well as Israel’s bombing of Lebanon.Many key details remain to be negotiated, including the future of Iran’s nuclear program. Another issue that remains uncertain – how the deal will impact the Kurdish minority in northern Iran.The United States and Israel have failed to achieve the main goal of their war: overthrowing the Islamic regime in Tehran. US President Donald Trump is now under pressure to end the war as quickly as possible – and answer for its failures.Instead, in recent days, he has reiterated an allegation the US sent weapons to the Kurds in the early days of the war to help overthrow the regime. Trump claims the Kurds kept the weapons for themselves///////xxxxxxxx

Oh really?  
Is THAT why we just bombed another 140 targets in Iran last night in retaliation for Iran's attempted missile attacks on it's neighbors and firing on ships in the gulf?
And regime change WAS NOT the "main goal" of the attack on Iran, so stop lying about it, you ignorant scumbag!
The primary goal of the war always was to stop Iran from completing the construction of multiple nuclear weapons, which would have been done within weeks if Trump hadn't taken the actions he did, unlike his predecessor pussies Biden and Obama who handed Iran tens of billions of dollars in the failed attempt to appease Iran.  Trump succeeded in achieving THAT goal within the first hours of the war, asshole!  And Trump is under NO pressure to end the war quickly.  How many nights of getting bombed at 140 locations do you think Iran can tolerate, knowing that at any time their oil industry, their key bridges, their power plants, and even Kharg Island might be wiped out on the very next night, to say nothing of seeing even more of their remaining leaders buried under tons of mountain rubble?
 

Zeets2 » 12 Jul 2026, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Jul 2026, 12:07 pm

Oh really?  
Is THAT why we just bombed another 140 targets in Iran last night in retaliation for Iran's attempted missile attacks on it's neighbors and firing on ships in the gulf?
And regime change WAS NOT the "main goal" of the attack on Iran, so stop lying about it, you ignorant scumbag!
The primary goal of the war always was to stop Iran from completing the construction of multiple nuclear weapons, which would have been done within weeks if Trump hadn't taken the actions he did, unlike his predecessor pussies Biden and Obama who handed Iran tens of billions of dollars in the failed attempt to appease Iran.  Trump succeeded in achieving THAT goal within the first hours of the war, asshole!  And Trump is under NO pressure to end the war quickly.  How many nights of getting bombed at 140 locations do you think Iran can tolerate, knowing that at any time their oil industry, their key bridges, their power plants, and even Kharg Island might be wiped out on the very next night, to say nothing of seeing even more of their remaining leaders buried under tons of mountain rubble?

//////The United States pursues regime change in Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions, stop the funding of militant proxy groups in the Middle East, and secure regional stability. U.S. policymakers also view the current leadership's anti-Western stance and human rights crackdowns against domestic movements as threats to American democratic values and global security///

What can "hundreds" of Kurdish fighters do against a military that's kicking the supposedly most powerful nation on earth?
Absolutely nothing.