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Believe it or not...I have my fair share of disagreements with the DSA platform (namely, there are certain cases where a "free market" solution is superior to outright state ownership and the DSA doesn't offer a desirable structure of taxation)...

But the DSA gaining all these seats and winning clout has retarded DEMOCRAPS who only do Wall Street's bidding panicking...

And of course...retarded MAGATs who are UNABLE TO PROPERLY DEFINE "Capitalism" and "Socialism" b/c they are FCKING IDIOTZ are not particularly happy either...  

 

LowIQTrash » Today, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:03 am

Believe it or not...I have my fair share of disagreements with the DSA platform (namely, there are certain cases where a "free market" solution is superior to outright state ownership and the DSA doesn't offer a desirable structure of taxation)...

But the DSA gaining all these seats and winning clout has retarded DEMOCRAPS who only do Wall Street's bidding panicking...

And of course...retarded MAGATs who are UNABLE TO PROPERLY DEFINE "Capitalism" and "Socialism" b/c they are FCKING IDIOTZ are not particularly happy either...  

Oh and of course both the **** and RETHUGLICANS would have us bend over and take a giant Kosher c0ck in the behind for our "gr3at3st ally"...you **** disgusting sodomites might like that but I am opposed to such an arrangement...

Well, I for one DON'T believe it coming from liberals like you!

I guarantee you'll be among the first in line to vote for EVERY ONE of those socialist/communist/Nazis in your own jurisdiction!
Who you trying to kid?
 

LowIQTrash » Today, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:03 am

Believe it or not...I have my fair share of disagreements with the DSA platform (namely, there are certain cases where a "free market" solution is superior to outright state ownership and the DSA doesn't offer a desirable structure of taxation)...

But the DSA gaining all these seats and winning clout has retarded DEMOCRAPS who only do Wall Street's bidding panicking...

And of course...retarded MAGATs who are UNABLE TO PROPERLY DEFINE "Capitalism" and "Socialism" b/c they are FCKING IDIOTZ are not particularly happy either...  

Oh and of course both the **** and RETHUGLICANS would have us bend over and take a giant Kosher c0ck in the behind for our "gr3at3st ally"...you **** disgusting sodomites might like that but I am opposed to such an arrangement...

The DSA is a total pipe dream and not going to gain enough traction to change squat! 50 years from now, maybe!

Critics argue that the Democratic Socialists of America policies could harm the average worker by causing inflation through excessive government spending, reducing employment opportunities with rigid mandates, stifling innovation through public ownership of businesses, and imposing heavy tax burdens to fund expansive social programs.

These potential negative impacts on everyday workers are generally broken down by economists and critics into four main areas:Increased Tax Burden: The DSA advocates for expansive social programs like Medicare for All, tuition-free college, and universal childcare. Critics and independent analyses of these policies suggest that to fund them, the tax burden would fall heavily on the middle class and average workers, potentially negating wage gains.Job Losses and Economic Stagnation: Proposals such as raising the minimum wage significantly, implementing a mandatory 32-hour workweek with no cut to pay, and abolishing "right-to-work" laws are seen by some economists as policies that could make it harder for small businesses to survive, leading to layoffs, higher prices, and restricted business growth.Loss of Economic Efficiency: The DSA long-term goal is to transition away from free-market capitalism and move major corporations and services into public ownership. Skeptics argue that eliminating market competition and private enterprise removes the incentive for efficiency and innovation, which could lead to lower-quality services, shortages, and a lower standard of living for workers.Inflationary Risks: The massive public spending required to fund the "Workers Deserve More" platform could trigger hyperinflation. If the cost of living rises faster than wages, the purchasing power of the average worker decreases, making it harder to afford basic goods and services.
 

Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

37 minutes ago

Well, I for one DON'T believe it coming from liberals like you!

I guarantee you'll be among the first in line to vote for EVERY ONE of those socialist/communist/Nazis in your own jurisdiction!
Who you trying to kid?

Haven't voted for more than 10 years (except for minor / inconsequential local/county ballot initiatives). To me it's a pointl3ss exercise...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/im- ... ent-stream

So your new bestie BILL MAHER who supports the Zi0naziS is pissed b/c the DSA has "Free Palestine" on their major agenda list...     

And, whatever fault the SOSHALIZTS have...they aren't responsible for squandering TRILLIONS on corporate bailouts and handouts, never ending wars for our "Gr3at3st ally" *snicker*, and creating a digital ID / surveillance AI open air prison (currently a work in progress thanks to Palantir and Peter Thiel, among others)

 

Fuelman » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

The DSA is a total pipe dream and not going to gain enough traction to change squat! 50 years from now, maybe!

Critics argue that the Democratic Socialists of America policies could harm the average worker by causing inflation through excessive government spending, reducing employment opportunities with rigid mandates, stifling innovation through public ownership of businesses, and imposing heavy tax burdens to fund expansive social programs.


 

"Excessive inflation, rigid mandates, public owmership of businesses, and imposing heavy tax burdens"

All of those exist today and constitute 50+ years of mismanagement (or malice) by both the **** AND the Dimocraps (more specifically, the masters they serve)

The DSA didn't even gain any notoreity until AOC appeared in 2016.   

LowIQTrash » 54 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

54 minutes ago

Haven't voted for more than 10 years (except for minor / inconsequential local/county ballot initiatives). To me it's a pointl3ss exercise...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/im- ... ent-stream

So your new bestie BILL MAHER who supports the Zi0naziS is pissed b/c the DSA has "Free Palestine" on their major agenda list...     

And, whatever fault the SOSHALIZTS have...they aren't responsible for squandering TRILLIONS on corporate bailouts and handouts, never ending wars for our "Gr3at3st ally" *snicker*, and creating a digital ID / surveillance AI open air prison (currently a work in progress thanks to Palantir and Peter Thiel, among others)

Guess it doesn't matter to you that hundreds of millions have been murdered by those socialist/communist/Nazi rulers through the last 100 years or so, huh?

Only the most ignorant dopes who have zero knowledge of history could possibly believe that living under the kind of socialist/communist authority you prefer would be an advantageous change from our own democratic republic.

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Communist regimes are estimated to have murdered approximately 100 million people in the last century, with the Soviet Union and China being the most significant contributors. In comparison, fascist regimes, such as Nazi Germany, are estimated to have killed around 20 million people during the same period.Estimated Death Toll by Regime TypeThe following table summarizes the estimated number of people murdered by socialist, fascist, and communist regimes over the last century.Regime TypeEstimated Death Toll (Millions)Notable Regimes/ExamplesCommunist100Soviet Union, People's Republic of ChinaFascist20Nazi GermanySocialistVaries (specific figures not provided)Various regimes, including those in Eastern EuropeBreakdown of Communist Regimes

• Soviet Union: Approximately 61.9 million
• People's Republic of China: Approximately 87.6 million
• Cuba under Castro: Approximately 100,000

Breakdown of Fascist Regimes

• Nazi Germany: Approximately 20.9 million
• Uganda under Idi Amin: Approximately 500,000
• North Korea: Approximately 3 million
• Cambodia under Pol Pot: Approximately 2 million
• Chile under Pinochet: 9,800
• Ethiopia: 1.7 million
• Afghanistan: 1.5 million

 

LowIQTrash » 56 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

56 minutes ago

"Excessive inflation, rigid mandates, public owmership of businesses, and imposing heavy tax burdens"

All of those exist today and constitute 50+ years of mismanagement (or malice) by both the **** AND the Dimocraps (more specifically, the masters they serve)

The DSA didn't even gain any notoreity until AOC appeared in 2016. 

  Pretty sure the DSA wants everyone to be happy little **** ( with shackles on) just like in Sweden.

https://share.google/rWQ43fPBLkzD3DzeK

The challenge for social democrats in America is how to pay for this larger government. In Sweden, contrary to rhetoric that the wealthy pay a disproportionate share of taxes, government spending is paid for by much higher taxes on middle-class workers and families.

 For example,
Sweden’s top personal income tax rate of 52.3 per cent is comparable to America’s top rate of 50.3 per cent (in California), but Sweden’s top rate applies to income starting at roughly US$62,000 compared to America’s top rate, which kicks in at between roughly US$535,000 and US$1 million depending on the state. Clearly, the top personal income tax rate in Sweden applies to many average Swedish workers and families. 

Moreover, Sweden’s national sales tax rate (25 per cent) is one of the highest in the industrialized world, which again applies to average workers and families. The U.S. has no national sales tax, and state and local sales taxes range from zero in four states to 9.55 per cent in Louisiana. And Sweden also has a comparatively high payroll tax rate at 31.4 per cent.

 The consequence of Sweden’s tax policies is clear—average Swedes bear the burden of higher government spending.

The DSA will eventually have to put up some numbers which will kill their little fantasy!