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I bet BV will dance around this answer for weeks. All he has to do is answer with a Yes or No.

FJB » Today, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:44 am

I bet BV will dance around this answer for weeks. All he has to do is answer with a Yes or No.

No.


My turn.


Is Grifty a rapist?


 

Blackvegetable » 14 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

14 minutes ago

FJB » Today, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:44 am

I bet BV will dance around this answer for weeks. All he has to do is answer with a Yes or No.

No.


My turn.


Is Grifty a rapist?


 

 

No.

Huey » Today, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:23 am

No.

Someone found liable for an act of Rape isn't called a lepidopterist...

A fact that didn't escape the presiding judge...or Ty Cobb.

FJB » Today, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:44 am

I bet BV will dance around this answer for weeks. All he has to do is answer with a Yes or No.

Brain Hemmorage of ****..

The E. Jean Carroll Civil TrialThe Verdict: In May 2023, a federal civil jury in New York found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation against writer E. Jean Carroll, awarding her $5 million in damages.The Legal Distinction: The jury did not find Trump liable for the specific legal definition of rape under New York penal law, which requires proof of forcible vaginal penetration. Instead, jurors concluded he committed sexual abuse by forcibly touching and groping her.The Judge's Clarification: The presiding federal judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, later clarified in a legal ruling that the jury's finding of sexual abuse meant Carroll had proven Trump forcibly penetrated her digitally, which meets the common, everyday understanding of the word "rape".
 

Blackvegetable » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » Today, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:23 am

No.

Someone found liable for an act of Rape isn't called a lepidopterist...

A fact that didn't escape the presiding judge...or Ty Cobb.

 

1.  No jury has convicted him of rape.

2.  He was found liable for sexual assault buy a jury in a civil case which has a much lower bar for the burden of proof.

3.  The jury was instructed to use NY State law for rape.  Digital Penetration did not qualify as rape, if in fact he even did that.

Those are all facts.
 

Huey » 13 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

13 minutes ago

1.  No jury has convicted him of rape.

2.  He was found liable for sexual assault buy a jury in a civil case which has a much lower bar for the burden of proof.

3.  The jury was instructed to use NY State law for rape.  Digital Penetration did not qualify as rape, if in fact he even did that.

Those are all facts.

1. Not relevant 

2. For a SPECIFIC act of Sexual Assault. Broadly defined as rape.

3. You insist on laboring matters irrelevant to the verdict.


 

Blackvegetable » 50 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

50 minutes ago

Someone found liable for an act of Rape isn't called a lepidopterist...

A fact that didn't escape the presiding judge...or Ty Cobb.

Good try Dickhead.....it was rigged to take down Trump

Rigged isn't real

your whole party is a rig and hoax operation

Blackvegetable » 42 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

42 minutes ago

1. Not relevant 

2. For a SPECIFIC act of Sexual Assault. Broadly defined as rape.

3. You insist on laboring matters irrelevant to the verdict.

IOW, specifically under NY penal code, it’s “broadly defined” as a good ****…
 
 
 

Blackvegetable » 47 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 59 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

59 minutes ago

1.  No jury has convicted him of rape.

2.  He was found liable for sexual assault buy a jury in a civil case which has a much lower bar for the burden of proof.

3.  The jury was instructed to use NY State law for rape.  Digital Penetration did not qualify as rape, if in fact he even did that.

Those are all facts.

1. Not relevant 

2. For a SPECIFIC act of Sexual Assault. Broadly defined as rape.

3. You insist on laboring matters irrelevant to the verdict.


 

 

Your number 1 is not a fact, it is an opinions.

Your number 2 is not a fact, it is an opinion.  If he was in a criminal trial he WOULD NOT have been convicted of rape.

Your number 3 is another fact.

You refuse to acknowledge objective facts.  Rules for thee, but not for me is your motto.
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:11 am

FJB » Today, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:44 am

I bet BV will dance around this answer for weeks. All he has to do is answer with a Yes or No.

No.


My turn.


Is Grifty a rapist?


 

 

NO, because of the facts I posted earlier and the reasons in this article:

You may be wondering how on earth did a jury find Donald Trump liable for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll but not for raping her—and what’s the difference anyway? Welcome to the decade-long battle in New York state to change the definition of rape in the first degree (aka Rape 1).

You may be wondering how on earth did a jury find Donald Trump liable for sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll but not for raping her—and what’s the difference anyway? Welcome to the decade-long battle in New York state to change the definition of rape in the first degree (aka Rape 1).

https://www.thenation.com/article/socie ... l-assault/

Huey » 17 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

17 minutes ago

Your number 1 is not a fact, it is an opinion.

Your number 2 is not a fact, it is an opinion.  If he was in a criminal trial he WOULD NOT have been convicted of rape.

Your number 3 is another fact.

You refuse to acknowledge objective facts.  Rules for thee, but not for me is your motto.

Your number 1 

No...it is a fact. 

There's a very simple test.

Your number 2 is not a fact, 

No...it is a fact..The act for which he was found liable is defined as rape.

Your number 3 is 

It is irrelevant. 

You refuse to acknowledge

Why was Judge Kaplan obliged to opine?

Blackvegetable » 16 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 32 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

32 minutes ago

Your number 1 is not a fact, it is an opinion.

Your number 2 is not a fact, it is an opinion.  If he was in a criminal trial he WOULD NOT have been convicted of rape.

Your number 3 is another fact.

You refuse to acknowledge objective facts.  Rules for thee, but not for me is your motto.

Your number 1 

No...it is a fact. 

There's a very simple test.

Your number 2 is not a fact, 

No...it is a fact..The act for which he was found liable is defined as rape.

Your number 3 is 

It is irrelevant. 

You refuse to acknowledge

Why was Judge Kaplan obliged to opine?

 

Sigh, SSDD.  Still unable to accept objective fact.  Keep scrolling, Buttercup, there is more I posted that is kicking you in the teeth.

Huey » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

Sigh, SSDD.  Still unable to accept objective fact.  Keep scrolling, Buttercup, there is more I posted that is kicking you in the teeth.

Answer the question. 

Blackvegetable » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

Sigh, SSDD.  Still unable to accept objective fact.  Keep scrolling, Buttercup, there is more I posted that is kicking you in the teeth.

Answer the question. 

 

Buttercup, when you present objective facts I will answer questions.  Not going down your usual rabbit hole of diversion.

Huey » 11 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

11 minutes ago

Buttercup, when you present objective facts

It is a matter of objective fact that Judge Kaplan opined for a reason.

What is that reason?

ROG62 » 56 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

56 minutes ago

IOW, specifically under NY penal code, it’s “broadly defined” as a good ****…

What examples did Judge Kaplan cite in his opinion?

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

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Huey » 16 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

16 minutes ago

Buttercup, when you present objective facts

It is a matter of objective fact that Judge Kaplan opined for a reason.

What is that reason?

 

Sorry, that is a question.  Since YOU refuse to answer questions and you refuse to acknowledge objective fact you are going to have to build your case with narrative and sources.

PS.  If you try that **** (jive, LMAO) that I don't answer questions I will show that back in your face showing you are a liar.
 

Huey » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

Sorry, that is a question.  

The answer puts an end to this discussion..

It is why you have never answered it...

That, and the fact that you're a ******, of course.

Huey » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

Sorry, that is a question.  




PS.  If you try that **** (jive, LMAO) that I don't answer questions I will show that back in your face showing you are a liar.

no one alive is this **** stupid..