What Makes A Liberal? A Thread For Essays; Not Debate.

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By bludog
16 Jun 2020 5:48 pm in Liberals Only Political Chat Room
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Mrkelly » 21 Feb 2024, 1:16 pm » wrote: because you are posting in a liberal only part of the forum 

if you are a lib

just say so
Ok, I'm a lib.  Did I pass the audition?
 
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frank » 21 Feb 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: Ok, I'm a lib.  Did I pass the audition?
was that so hard Krautz?

if you need attention so bad

knock yourself out 

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Mrkelly » 21 Feb 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: was that so hard Krautz?

if you need attention so bad

knock yourself out 

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Ok, what shall we discuss!!???
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Is there some kind of test for this?
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bludog » 16 Jun 2020, 5:48 pm » wrote: Thread to contribute your idea of "What makes a Liberal".
This thread is for essays, or shorter tracts;    

This thread is not for rebuttal.  If you want to dispute something, in this thread, please start a separate thread in LO.  
Thanks

 
 
I have a novel idea about what creates a liberal, social consensus by people agreeing to never agree on how evolving works in plain sight. any generation gap forward from here and now since dawn of civilization.
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Mrkelly » 21 Feb 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: was that so hard Krautz?

if you need attention so bad

knock yourself out 

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Given the current HARD, UNYIELDING rules of liberalism, it cannot possibly be unfair to suggest that Hitler, Peron, Pinochet, and Limbaugh could all "identify" as liberals, and bring with that claim every right to demand that others respect their pronoun.  Image   Image   Image  
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 06 Mar 2024, 5:39 pm » wrote: Given the current HARD, UNYIELDING rules of liberalism, it cannot possibly be unfair to suggest that Hitler, Peron, Pinochet, and Limbaugh could all "identify" as liberals, and bring with that claim every right to demand that others respect their pronoun.  Image   Image   Image  
 
 
Rush always said that he defended institutionalism, and that to me is liberalism to keep people staying in character, not ancestral time displaced.. That was the thing I didn't like about him while he would always discuss self reliance he always came back to community theater on the world stage.

Everything was on an intellectual plane, not an instinctive one. I use both in equal proportions. one to keep reality working for everyone equally as adapting to the moment here.

That is what makes life equal in the time each reproductive results is actually being eternally separated in series parallel adapting as displaced since conceived to replace, now. Those pesky two words "self evident".
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bludog » 16 Jun 2020, 5:48 pm » wrote: Thread to contribute your idea of "What makes a Liberal".
This thread is for essays, or shorter tracts;    

This thread is not for rebuttal.  If you want to dispute something, in this thread, please start a separate thread in LO.  
Thanks
It is my opinion that the meaning of the word has changed.   I was, for many decades, liberal.  I was a JFK democrat.  I was also a proud and patriotic American citizen.   Now those two seem to be sundered.   To be a liberal now clealy means one agrees with globalism or even with, so called, Marxist ideals.   No Liberal in my formative years (during the sixties) would even consider such a thing.

So what is a liberal now?   Anyone know?
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Varnaj42 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:57 am » wrote: It is my opinion that the meaning of the word has changed.   I was, for many decades, liberal.  I was a JFK democrat.  I was also a proud and patriotic American citizen.   Now those two seem to be sundered.   To be a liberal now clealy means one agrees with globalism or even with, so called, Marxist ideals.   No Liberal in my formative years (during the sixties) would even consider such a thing.

So what is a liberal now?   Anyone know?
Accomplished liars, hoax propogators, and Democrats. 
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Varnaj42 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:57 am » wrote: It is my opinion that the meaning of the word has changed.   I was, for many decades, liberal.  I was a JFK democrat.  I was also a proud and patriotic American citizen.   Now those two seem to be sundered.   To be a liberal now clealy means one agrees with globalism or even with, so called, Marxist ideals.   No Liberal in my formative years (during the sixties) would even consider such a thing.

So what is a liberal now?   Anyone know?
Liberal/conservative theoretically should overlap as in a Venn diagram.
People want to label things and once the label is defined, individuals must adhere to that specific set of views and behaviors.
At least that seems to be what society asks for.

People are not that simple and judgement calls have to be made throughout the day.
How can you possibly know all the details of anyone and properly categorize them?

Some people are assholes about "their views" being perfect simply because they read up on something. They didn't read up on everything though. Plus people hold back secrets that affect their own viewpoint.
Maybe they fight to rid the streets of guns while keeping a handgun in the night stand.
Maybe they're quite conservative in all ways but their daughter had that abortion last year.

So, staunch this or that probably is a real minority on either side of the fence.
Life is about decisions and what is right today may not seem so right next year.
 
 
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Deezer Shoove » Yesterday, 6:00 am » wrote: Liberal/conservative theoretically should overlap as in a Venn diagram.
People want to label things and once the label is defined, individuals must adhere to that specific set of views and behaviors.
At least that seems to be what society asks for.

People are not that simple and judgement calls have to be made throughout the day.
How can you possibly know all the details of anyone and properly categorize them?
Personal instinctive honesty of navigating space as uniquely alive daily since conceived to replace one's previous 4 generation gaps combined streaming chromosomes through combined DNA sequencing numbers left alive daily here.
simple compounding results adapting as displaced cradle to grave equally timed apart unequally talented all the time. Eternity balances everything eternally separated now in ever changing form since shaped by combined periodic elements or chromosomes.

Your ancestry chose to disregard that universal constant as did my own ancestry, until I changed my mind. Nobody else has. I have survived 43 years understanding why humanity fails in every New World Order.
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DeezerShoove » Yesterday, 6:00 am » wrote: Liberal/conservative theoretically should overlap as in a Venn diagram.
People want to label things and once the label is defined, individuals must adhere to that specific set of views and behaviors.
At least that seems to be what society asks for.

People are not that simple and judgement calls have to be made throughout the day.
How can you possibly know all the details of anyone and properly categorize them?

Some people are assholes about "their views" being perfect simply because they read up on something. They didn't read up on everything though. Plus people hold back secrets that affect their own viewpoint.
Maybe they fight to rid the streets of guns while keeping a handgun in the night stand.
Maybe they're quite conservative in all ways but their daughter had that abortion last year.

So, staunch this or that probably is a real minority on either side of the fence.
Life is about decisions and what is right today may not seem so right next year.
Thanks for the reply but it's just four paragraphs of generalizations.
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Varnaj42 » Today, 3:14 pm » wrote: Thanks for the reply but it's just four paragraphs of generalizations.

That's all I see in your quest.

What makes a liberal? is a vague, childish question.
All it deserves is a "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" type answer.
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » Today, 3:19 pm » wrote: That's all I see in your quest.

What makes a liberal? is a vague, childish question.
All it deserves is a "Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus" type answer.
The rather empty title of "senior moderator" apparently endows you with the final word in such matters?   Carry on then.  We await your wisdom with baited breath.  I've read better from Daffy Duck.
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Varnaj42 » Today, 7:14 pm » wrote: The rather empty title of "senior moderator" apparently endows you with the final word in such matters?   Carry on then.  We await your wisdom with baited breath.  I've read better from Daffy Duck.

 
Huh? What the hell's that got to do with anything?
You asked. I replied. You called my reply worthless.
What did you expect? A thank you?  :wave:  

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Look up and understand the vocabulary you use.
First, it's "bated breath".
Second, do you even know what that means?

Friggin' thinskins... sheesh...
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » 16 Sep 2024, 8:27 pm » wrote: Huh? What the hell's that got to do with anything?
You asked. I replied. You called my reply worthless.
What did you expect? A thank you?  Image  

btw
Look up and understand the vocabulary you use.
First, it's "bated breath".
Second, do you even know what that means?

Friggin' thinskins... sheesh...
In his case, trust me, it's baited breath. 
 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

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Varnaj42 » 14 Sep 2024, 12:57 am » wrote: It is my opinion that the meaning of the word has changed.   I was, for many decades, liberal.  I was a JFK democrat.  I was also a proud and patriotic American citizen.   Now those two seem to be sundered.   To be a liberal now clealy means one agrees with globalism or even with, so called, Marxist ideals.   No Liberal in my formative years (during the sixties) would even consider such a thing.

So what is a liberal now?   Anyone know?
The people who call themselves liberals now believe they know better how to raise other people's children than the parents do. They believe firmly in sexualizing other people's children, endowing them with sexual agency, and interfering with the custody of children whose parents object to them being gaslighted and granted sexual agency. 

They cheer for wars and proxy wars and other aggressions by the state. They support the establishment. They endorse censorship. They believe that democracy is feeble and must be rescued, that truth cannot stand if lies are allowed, and the state should be the arbiter of one's personal reality. 

They are precisely the opposite of a 1960s liberal - in each and every measure. 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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