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ROTFL.

"Oh NO! Trump is looking really bad at the way he totally denied, lied about and **** up the pandemic response! Quick! Shout some stupid **** trying to shift the blame to any democrat you can!"

Good luck, stooge.

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DennisTheMenace Jun 19, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 18, 2020 10:32pm

RollingRock » 13 Jun 2020, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Jun 2020, 3:01 pm

In three months time?  Do you have a link of reference?  

People's lives are more important than the economy.

If we need to, absolutely.  The trick is getting it right the FIRST time (which we did not do).  

Of course.  And I prioritize American lives first.

I have been unable to find resources on the timeline for US mortality/excess deaths. Wikipedia only shows a chart based on excess mortality from Chile, so we can use that as a proxy (as the outbreak was far deadlier in South America compared to North America).



Excess mortality spike lasted from July 1957 to January 1958 - 6 months time.

The time is actually not as relevant as you think because the total number of deaths follows a logistic, not an exponential, curve. As time progresses, the total # of deaths will sizzle out, unless a "second wave" comes (which it will, whether we lockdown or not - and if anything, I would argue the inability of the lockdown to prevent a "second wave" is actually strong evidence against the lockdown itself).

Unfortunately, as your typical American is very math-impaired, he or she probably googled "exponential function" without truly understanding the 10th grade math behind it, and then posted hysterically all over social media about how "5 billion ppl are going to be infected and 100 million dead!" with silly charts if we didn't do everything the Karens demanded.

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"People's lives are more important than the economy."

This is another point, which I predicted you would make, that has made you an unwitting supporter of Wall Street's agenda, which I hope you will re-evaluate in light of everything that's happened (given that you are clearly a Bernie Sanders supporter, I doubt you are a big fan of Wall Street).

The "economy" is not just Wall St's earning reports (which are largely fabricated anyway with non-GAAP numbers - thank the SEC for standing by and letting Wall St criminals loose), Goldman Sachs/other banks front-running Treasury bonds...it is every transaction that enables ordinary people to make a living.

When you tell people living paycheck to paycheck that they CANNOT go and earn $$$ to support themselves, you are aiding in the working class' destruction. You are also allowing Wall Street to impoverish Main Street small businesses, many of which have already gone bankrupt and will no longer serve as competition to Wall Street economic gangsters.

Now I can already see some objections you will raise, and I will address them now:

1. "We can just give the people money, like UBI/unemployment payments/etc."

True, but that's not going to last forever. Since I am not a "libertarian" or "conservative," I don't object to cash transfers (under certain circumstances when people actually need them), but I will tell you, as anyone who understands basic economics does, that this is supposed to be TEMPORARY. It cannot last forever, unless you want the price of staples to skyrocket 500%.

Sooner or later, people will go back to work when what meager savings or government transfers they have dries up...and...the virus will circulate again.

See why I'm not a fan of "lockdowns?"

2. "It's not the working class' fault that they live paycheck to paycheck. It's the system's fault."

OK, so how is shutting down the economy going to help?

It doesn't matter whether you live in a capitalist or socialist system, someone needs to do the labor, or the goods/services won't exist.

A shortage of goods/services is not going to help the working class - in fact, a shortage means only the RICH can afford to pay for those higher prices.

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 If we need to, absolutely.  The trick is getting it right the FIRST time (which we did not do).

What exactly should we have done differently?

And before you even think about it, please do not scapegoat the "lockdown protestors," as they were a very small minority.

If your plan fails because < 0.1% of the population refuses to comply, your plan was destined to fail anyway, as no plan achieves 100% compliance.

I'm also curious as to whether you think the George Floyd inspired "protests" are responsible for the resurgence in Covid cases, and whether we need to disperse THOSE protestors as they are undoubtedly facilitating the spread of the virus with a vengeance.

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Of course.  And I prioritize American lives first.

I do as well. Unfortunately, the lockdowns have destroyed many lives, so I surely hope the lockdowns will not happen again.

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Annoyed Liberall Jun 22, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 13, 2020 4:03pm
 

Hat_Creek » 23 Jun 2020, 4:11 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2020, 4:11 am

Yesterday, I read a few Sole posts I thought were pretty good.

Just give him time as he has something unique and profound to share with us.

Soles thought process isn't linear.

Thank you, But what makes my discussions unique is I describe life without if reinterpreting the past so far and the triangulating could, would, should governing human emotions from now on through trained context and believing life originated anywhere else but the moment sustaining the universe perpetually balancing between did exist, is existing, does continue or not duplicated again per lifetime, ancestral part of the food chain, planet, solar system, galaxy of solar systems.

I see living as how it never exceeds reproductions being timed apart now. My instincts can follow any detail back to why and how is became what it is as eternally timed apart so far. That goes for ancestral progression to lifetime present regardless plant, animal, predator, prey, asexual, male, female means of reproduciton making something that never existed before into something never duplicated again.

Everyone agrees life works in cycles, reproductive cycles timed apart while spontaneously here per universal point of being actively displaced inorganically and ancestrally within one atmosphere per each lifetime in each species actively reproducing even becoming extinct, occupying space, inception of a new variety or species from now on, which is only while reproductions are present.

Compounding simplicity of details constructs between what erodes and what decomposes by decay, fire, ingestion. Personal experience of everything I do is never what I have done so far. I add that to everyone else exists the same way separate DNA timed apart now.

All the events possible but don't apply until reached, binary code of did or hasn't, i.e.1 or 0.

see everyone else I know spends their time defending who they rather be socially where I stand my time as eternally separated so far. I get the clarity of reading between the lines people use to substitute symbolism for how life actually works in plain sight, never naturally here in planed syllables of any tongue or alphabetized vocabulary or mathematical equating by statistical averaging past outcomes to direct future endeavors making each added reproduction obey the principals of language arts..

by doing what I have for the last 13 years using cyberspace as an arena of ideas upon free messagboards has made me the genetic fruition of Nostardamus's "One male" prediction that would end time humans use to take advantage of each other psychologically making human nature as a predator philosophical prey in reality.

see how my explaining to you where I get my ideas from implodes everything phoenix68.2.0 is using against me psychologically and socially gathering deniers around to make me feel insulated and isolated but I already know how and why I am 1 of a kind now. most people don't want to find out.

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omh Jun 23, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 23, 2020 8:05am

Polar1ty » 23 Jun 2020, 4:29 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2020, 4:29 am

And this is one of at least 15 reasons I will side with environmentalists 90% of the time.

You can be forgiven for concluding LiberTARDians and some conservatives do not understand the basic economic concept of "external costs."

...i don't believe there are many libertardians or libertarians issuing the permit$ for/supporting these particular corporation$... most all are f@cking azzhole republicrats.... reality....

...again, it seems to me, it would be MUCH more effective if you saved your breath for the republican and democrat pieces of sh!t WHO HAVE F@CKING DOMINATED GOVERNMENT YOUR WHOLE LIFE....   
 
 

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SJConspirator Jun 23, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 23, 2020 12:45pm

Famagusta » 23 Jun 2020, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2020, 11:32 am

I went whale watching, aside from riding the lava fields, and swimming in the Blue Lagoon. (Heaven on earth)

It's surreal, isn't it.  We spent two weeks just hopping from town to town and wandering around the landscape - being following around by Icelandic ponies, like huge round friendly dogs.

We were there in October, so it was nice and cold - and after a day of sightseeing in Reykjavik we would go to the public pools.   Beautiful, gleaming building, swooping Nordic architecture, interior like the nicest private healthclub you've ever been to. Outside, an Olympic sized pool, heated just enough not to freeze you, a huge jacuzzi, and four hot tubs.  The real, original hot tubs - holes in the cement with increasing heat levels. I only ever made it to tub three.  LOL.
Keep in mind that this was nighttime in October, often snowing, so COLD.  You positively SPRINT from the building to the tubs, but after you soak for a  while, you climb out, steaming like a pudding, feeling toasty and warm, and you STROLL back, with snow falling on you.
I had gotten bronchitis the day we arrived, but two days in those tubs and it was gone.   
 
 
 

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Phelix_Dacat Jun 23, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 23, 2020 2:44pm

Misty » 24 Jun 2020, 11:32 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jun 2020, 11:32 am

Yesterday I was called a whore and a tranny hooker.

You are no whore.  I know whores.  Although I prefer to use the word Lady of the Night.

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Annoyed Liberall Jun 24, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 24, 2020 11:40am

SJConspirator » 24 Jun 2020, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jun 2020, 3:33 pm

Sometimes ur kind of slippery and hard to pin down.

I'm surprised to hear that - I never duck a question, unlike the panty dancers who snipe at me from cover. Not ducking questions has been, IMO, a motif and a point of pride with me. "slippery" is probably the most insulting thing I have been called on this board, from my perspective - though I am not suggesting the slight was dishonest on your part, or intentional. Just surprising.

SJConspirator » 24 Jun 2020, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jun 2020, 3:33 pm

Do you consider overpopulation and /or pollution a problem to be reckoned with or not? I honestly cant tell from your posts here.

Over population might be a problem - have to reach 30 billion or so people to find out. So far, every population benchmark we have hit that was supposed to be a tipping point has been breezed past with HIGHER standards of living and LONGER life spans, new technologies having obviated the predicted tipping point crises. In my experience, tomorrow tends to look like today, which looks like yesterday. So whatever the next population tipping point is - I no longer pay attention, you understand, - I pffft in the general direction of. The fossil layer is ever in the making on this mighty hopper of a planet - we are not going to deplete it as we and everything we make are nothing more than an extremely temporary part of it and are being recycled within it as we speak.

Pollution MIGHT be a problem we can agree on, unless you insist on foolishly rolling atmospheric carbon into the definition of pollution. I don't consider rabbit pellets, bird seed, plankton, atmospheric carbon, krill, potatoes or other food stuffs to be pollution. Sorry about that.

In my lifetime we beat smog, acid rain and rivers on fire - so I certainly recognize that pollution can be an issue. Each of those pollution issues were large but localized problems. L.A.'s smog - which we put to route with cafe standards and unleaded gas, yay us - never hurt Topeka. And today's pollution is mostly a problem local to China, the USA having long ago developed technologies to clean it up, developed technologies to avoid it, and developed legal standards to prevent/deal with it.

Where we have a problem that appears international in scope is the big plastic dump in the pacific - and it is being tackled as we speak:

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/02/15 ... m-alameda/

Which brings us to the real issue. This country won't be a country ten years from now. It'll be a fractured group of states and regions in survival mode, headed up by strong men. Pollution and over population will be the farthest thing from our minds. The queers and trannies will not be lobbying for toilet legislation, and he ****** won't be blaming whitey for their chronic under performance - they'll be focused, with the rest of us, on survival issues.

The USA is being treated as a disposable lighter. For example, I'm instructed that the vast underground aquifers beneath California's central valley have been deliberately - and most unnecessarily - pumped dry and caused to collapse - a deliberate and willful act of nihilist sabotage by that state's "leaders," who had a two billion dollar desalination plant off the coast of Santa Barbara sitting idle. When one sees writing such as that on the wall, one is given fair warning that "the end is near."

Want to tackle pollution? Turn it into food. EVERYTHING is edible by something. Too many zebras? Release some lions. Too many foxes? Release the hounds. Too many injuns? Kill the buffalo. It's eat or be eaten - and we need to feed pollution to something.

Want to tackle pollution like a boss? End war. And that means end the USA, as it - uniquely - relies on war and plunder for its livelihood. You aren't going to need to worry about over population or pollution for much longer - you aren't going to have time, IMO. We are going to pay the piper, right soon. The stimulus checks will stop. The imports will, too.

I could be wrong about our impending demise. I'm not wrong about pollution. Or about "over" population - a time-tested and history-rebuked canard. Where there is a will, there is a way. Getting rid of humans is the stupidest **** way that a HUMAN could ever suggest.
 
 

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SJConspirator Jun 24, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 24, 2020 7:24pm

KFSW » 24 Jun 2020, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jun 2020, 5:47 pm

Murica is baby country that became to big for its lil britches.
A very immature country.  Just look at the presidential candidates.  
These narcissistic loons are symptomatic of a sick country.
Putin ran circles around Obama and know Trump.  Biden?? LMAO.  Putin will *** rape Biden like a drunk Blasey-Ford.
The world continues to trust Russia and China more than WAR, INC *** USA.  

Get yer popcorn and watch it unfold

That is a somewhat crude and hateful assessment, but not wrong I guess.  If you are into accelerationism these are Heady times to live in.  Me, I just hunker in my bunker and think about death a lot.  I never used to contemplate my own death before 2020, now I think about it every day.  What’s going to get me?  Covid?  A violent mob?  A cop that I look at sideways on a bad day?  The giant tidal wave of homelessness that is surely about to flood the streets as all the eviction protection runs out?

I was born in 1974, and I heard tell about scary times in the US from the 1960s, with the Cuban missile crisis and the regular racial rioting and civil unrest in US cities.  I heard it was downright terrifying at times.  I never could relate, because I led a charmed life, the son of a business owner in Michigan, with a fair to middling middle class upbringing.  I never had a day of existential fear for the fate of this whole country.  Never has it felt like a social experiment that could go sideways like Nazi Germany or a Bolshevik revolution.  Until this year, that is.
 

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Annoyed Liberall Jun 25, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 24, 2020 11:09pm

Phelix_Dacat » 27 Jun 2020, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2020, 11:06 am

I put it in bold and made it huge so you can't miss it this time.

Why do you liberals have to see something wrong in everything. You sweat life too much. idiot.

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promoderate Jun 27, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 27, 2020 12:11pm

OlderGuy » 27 Jun 2020, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jun 2020, 8:16 pm

Hi All, 

I used to post as The Old Barn but when I was informed of Liberalforum.net I couldn't log in because I forgot my password and no longer have the email I used to use - that was a while ago - like 9 years...
Anyway, on the spot, "Older Guy", was the only screen name I could think of.

Glad to see you here OldBarn.    If you want, you can resume posting in LO her at .net, just as if nothing ever happened at .org.  Maybe I can get your screen name changed back to TheOldBarn, if you'd like me to try?

What has happened at example.com?q=? It's crazy, it reminds me of what happened just prior to Obama getting elected in 2008. Do you remember when Clear Channel bought all the Liberal Shows on radio and overnight turned them into Right-Wing Conservative talk shows? I live in the SF area in California, and it was wacko.

Well yeah.  It's kinda like that ...  What happened at .org.     The new owner turned the place into heaven for bigots, trolls and flamers.  And, as you know, did away with LO there.

Thank you for giving me heads up on this location Bludog!

I'm glad you got my email over there.  Up until now, I wasn't sure.  It was the last thing I was able to do before being banned.

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Older Guy Jun 26, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 27, 2020 6:39pm
 

The Economist Intelligence Unit’s where-to-be-born index (previously called the quality-of-life index, abbreviated QLI) attempts to measure which country will provide the best opportunities for a healthy, safe and prosperous life in the years ahead. It is based on a method that links the results of subjective life-satisfaction surveys to the objective determinants of quality of life across countries along with a forward-looking element.

In 1988, the United States Ranked #1 and Switzerland came in #13
By 2013, Switzerland Ranked #1 and the United States had fallen to #16




2013 Map:
The most favorable areas are in dark green, next are medium green and third are light green.  After them come yellow, orange, red and maroon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to- ... 3_rankings

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promoderate Jun 28, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 28, 2020 4:17pm

annLee » 28 Jun 2020, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jun 2020, 11:04 am

AMERICA WILL SOON REALIZE THAT FOR TRUMP THE ORANGE HEAD LUNATIC: All Roads Lead to PUTIN

What is so wrong with Putin? He's restored the orthodox church. He's not invading other countries. He's keeping Russian children from being indoctrinated in gender confusion and homosexuality. He's not falling for the global warming wealth redistribution scheme. With your ilk calling Trump a Nazi I am starting to doubt the validity of your claims about Putin. 
 

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Annoyed Liberall Jun 29, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 28, 2020 11:27am

bludog » 29 Jun 2020, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

29 Jun 2020, 10:25 am

Ha ha ha ha ha.  You'll be puking forever, trying to get in LO.

He can stay here. we like badboys.  

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promoderate Jun 29, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 29, 2020 12:47pm

Zeets2 » 28 Jun 2020, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jun 2020, 9:09 am

That's because WE HAVE the most just system possible in any economic system, and it's very simple.  You get paid what you're worth to the person in need of a service.  How is it that socialists like you believe that forcing an employer to pay an arbitrary amount to all those performing a similar service is more equitable?  That's the method used by every socialist/communist/Marxist throughout history, and it's been proven to fail every time it's tried because it destroys the individual incentive to improve.  But it remains a popular theory that's continually promoted by the lazy, the inept, and the uneducated because they're destined to be either poor or in the lower middle class for their entire lives.

Our system uses prison labor slavery, with prisoners who were railRoared for crimes they didn’t commit.  We are basically where the Soviet Union was  in the 1950s when it comes to criminal justice.  Dissidents and nonviolent drug offenders are primped to private business by the private prison for profit industry.  Because of all this we incarcerate a much larger percentage of our own citizens that ANY OTHER NATION ON EARTH.

thats the most just system possible to you?
 

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Annoyed Liberall Jun 30, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 28, 2020 9:15am

Demonrat Mayor Durkan got more than a Summer of Love. 
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan really liked BLM when they marched through downtown Seattle, wrecking havoc and burning police cars. She absolutely loved them when they took over a six square block area of her city, calling it a block party and that they would engage in a summer of love. But, when they showed up at her house, she decided that she doesn’t like them nearly so much. Durkan said they scared her family and put her kids in danger. The protesters led by communist city council member,  Kshama Sawant marched to her home after she announced that she would no longer support CHOP after a spate of shootings occurred there. But, I don’t understand why she thought it was fine when it was the “common” people whose families were put in peril but suddenly remembered her indignation when it was her family.

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Cannonpointer Jun 30, 2020

Go to original post on Jun 30, 2020 5:41pm

I have always been one to blaze a pioneers brave new trail, and since nobody else seems willing to do it, and since it rubbed me the wrong way a little, I will address the OP.
 

What fun, what entertainment. And rare: One seldom sees the collapse of a landmark society in a rush of wondrous idiocy. 

Would I could sell tickets. Don’t look at it as a loss, but as a show, an unwanted but grand amusement.

First, why is the rapid decline of the U.S. such a source of glee for this guy?  He is more giddy than a kid on Christmas morning.  Did the images of U.S. cities ablaze give this guy a chubby?

The coup de grace in our ripening decadence is the current uprising purportedly, though implausibly, over racism. But never mind. The causes don’t matter. The deal is done.

Still, it is interesting to recognize that the protesters are, perhaps deliberately, confusing the incapacity of blacks with systemic racism. In truth, America has made the greatest effort ever essayed by one race to uplift another.

The causes don't matter?  Then why does this guy spend the next hundred plus words describing the causes...

Reflect: In 1954 an entirely white Supreme Court unanimously ended segregation.

Later it found the use of IQ tests by employers illegal because blacks scored poorly, then found “affirmative action,” racial discrimination against whites, legal (hardly oppression of blacks, this).

An overwhelmingly white Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, the Voting Rights Act the next year. A white President sent troops to Little Rock to enforce desegregation. There has been an enormous flow of charity to blacks: Section Eight Housing, AFDC, Head Start, hiring quotas, set-asides, sharply lowered standards in police and fire departments. We now have free breakfasts for black children, then free lunches, in addition to outright welfare. In aggregate they resemble a distributed guaranteed basic income. Which is interesting. These measures sprang from the best of intentions.

For someone who is obviously a decent writer, this cat seems seriously uninformed on American history.  After reading his entire article twice here, I see no indication that he has the foggiest awareness that racial based inescapable slavery was a thing in the U.S. for 2 centuries.  This was a type of slavery
never before seen in the long global history of slavery , for in other times and geographical regions, slavery, indentured servitude, serfdom etc was always a thing that could be escaped generationally, i.e. the current slave, though maybe not able to buy his own freedom, could at least buy his children's by fulfilling his obligation.

Most I think should continue. I for one do not want to evict blacks from public housing or have their children go hungry. Yet none of these programs has had its desired effect. The crucial academic gap has not closed, crime remains horribly high, illegitimacy verges on universal. This is a great shame.

Blacks are decent enough people, likable if they don’t hate you, and phenomenally talented. But it hasn’t worked.Nothing has worked. There is no indication that anything will.

Blacks were phenomenally successful in this country.  They managed to open their own businesses despite all the odds against them, including being lynched at rates 4 to 5 times higher than non blacks in the 1910s and 1920s, and bought up huge sections of Tulsa Oklahoma similar to the way Walt Disney bought huge chunks of land in Florida.

That specter of black success was so appalling, so intimidating to whites, they literally dropped bombs on U.S. cities from military bombers to destroy black Wall Street..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

This is a piece of U.S. history they didn't talk about in  schools.  There was a blanket of silence on this subject for decades, despite it being very relevant and unique
to American history, what other time did we create a Dresden like firestorm in U.S. cities with U.S. military bomb raids?

The great black cities are in something approaching custodial care.

You cannot solve a problem without knowing what it is. This we dare not know. Democracies, however approximate, cannot deal with chronically underperforming minorities.They cannot even try. Anything that might help is politically impossible, and anything politically possible won’t help.

So, after the riots:

Social division will worsen after the riots. Racial hostility from blacks will not decrease because their conditions will not change. The rioters are getting their way now, and rule, but at the price of sowing hatred. At best we will have many decades of ugly rancor. At worst, we are winding the spring for another outburst.

Multiculturalism has not worked, quite apart from race, and will not. White Americans are not one people. The poor communications and bad roads that once allowed them to live almost separately no longer exist. In its writ-large form, trying to force West Virginia to accept the culture of Massachusetts will produce only anger.The likelihood of amity between races is proportional to their agreement on values important to them. For example, the Chinese share (what once were) the white values of study, work, courtesy, and obedience to the law. That they eat with chopsticks and celebrate New Year on the wrong day doesn’t matter.

I will agree with this guy on multiculturalism being ****, homogenous societies are more harmonious, productive and happy.

However, again for example, a culture that believes in female genital mutilation and utter subjection of women cannot live amicably with a culture that abhors these things. Black ghetto culture and white are immiscible in so many fundamental values that they will not live well together.Some cultures can assimilate, for example East Asian and American white, Latino and American white. But, in addition to sharply different cultures, too many blacks live in sprawling, racially isolated urban centers with almost no contact with the outside world other than television.

Censorship will intensify, not just of communications and office chitchat but of books. Tom Sawyer will be pulled from bookshelves or—Amazon being the continental shelf—or bowderlized to remove the *** Jim and Injun Joe The *** of the Narcissus may survive because none of the blacks and few of the whites will ever have heard of Conrad. At least for the foreseeable future, firings for anything imaginably redolent of racism–saying “All lives matter,” for example–will be snatched at in a mixture of passive aggression and schadenfreude to result in firings. This is unlikely to have a happy ending.

Black ghetto culture... There have been times I have pulled up in a gas station to pump gas, and a black dude pulls into the same gas station playing his **** *** music, and I can't even hear music, I just hear the THUMP and HUMMMM of the bass.  just a thundering baritone hum that sounds stupid and menacing at the same time.  
BUT, tonight is July first, and my WHITE neighbors are being loud, obnoxious, lighting off fireworks at almost 10PM when I am trying to wind down and relax, and I am peeved at them.  So *** don't have a monopoly on being ignorant and obnoxious and annoying me.

Schooling: Watching great universities become sandboxes for unpleasantly righteous dimwitted brats galls, or does if one lets it. I don’t.

Most of the protesters seem recently to have erupted from the drains of an educational system that has been in sharp decline for decades They, including the intelligent among them, appear historically not just ignorant but carefully misinformed, culturally pathetic, and intellectually laughable. (For example, a protestress interviewed by a British reporter as to what she thought of Churchill said she couldn’t really say because she hadn’t met him.

How many in BLM can spell “Confederacy”? A statue of Ulysses Grant was pulled down in the belief that he was a Confederate general. May God preserve us.)

The, uh, redaction of culture will not stop with books. Classical music is too white, the sciences too white, mathematics a tool of oppression (meaning that blacks cannot understand it) and so on. We have created a nation of pampered and imbecile peasants.

This reminds me of a episode of The Boondocks where the director of programming for BET is hell bent on destroying black people with **** TV shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZchP89w2pJo

There is no doubt that black pop culture is mostly stupid, shallow, vapid, not only ignorant, but seems to be PROUD of its ignorance, and glorifies and perpetuates lifestyles of petty criminals.  But who has historically owned and controlled the radio stations, magazines and TV stations, who are the gateway guardians of what songs or shows gets air play, what artists gets a record deal, etc?  Mostly Jews and other whites.  So if black culture is warped and ****, its not purely the fault of the blacks.

Schooling will continue its plummet.

Science departments probably will not be abolished. However, because they are too white, schools will recruit hopelessly unqualified black students and professors, standards will fall yet more, and mathematics will be played down even in astrophysics (this is being done).

Extirpating racism will replace scholarship, already degraded by the retirement or death of those professors who knew what education meant. This will inevitably result in lowered American technological competitiveness and prosperity. There is no hope of preventing this.

The replacement of learned professors by aging detritus from the Sixties antagonistic to scholarship is not surprising. America has had strong anti-intellectual undercurrent since its inception. The degradation will not be noticed by the young as they have never lived in a world different from their own, with Harry Potter and Toni Morrison thought to be literature. A liberal education was once the mark of the cultivated, being deep in languages, literature, philosophy, the sciences, history, mathematics,. Universities once had, at least among the better students, a love of open minded curiosity, thought, and debate. No more. Future historians will notice the shift, but those within it will not. We are left with a nation of morons who will not know they are morons.This too cannot be prevented. Jejune herdthink is now warmly espoused throughout the academy with children in grade school being primed for it.The most—I dare not say “entertaining” for fear of lynching, but, well, perhaps “interesting” reforms will be those of the police, whether abolition, defunding to shift money to youth outreach and rehab (which don’t work) or replacement of police by warm and caring adults, will result in increased crime.

The universities have become hotbeds of pretentious PC speech, phony outrage over microaggressions, virtue signalling and towers of babel when it comes to acknowledging a shared reality regarding the simple binary condition of human sexuality and gender.  I can't disagree with him on that, but when he says we inevitably must be a nation of morons, I point to Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris and other modern intellectuals who are sensible, even genius at times, popular and have huge followings.  As for increased crime, that is caused by making natural human behavior criminal, as it was during prohibition and still is with the modern war on drugs.  Decriminalize perfectly natural and harmless human instincts and crime will sharply drop.

We need not concern ourselves with whether and to what extent the police have been culpable in which cases. The changes will come anyway.An intriguing question is what the nonviolent, non-racist, warm and fuzzy pseudopolice will do when they encounter violent criminals. Counsel them on social justice? I would love to watch.Our system of governments has proved itself weak, feckless, and unable to govern. The chaotic response to the coronavirus is a prime example, there being no national policy and the states being told to do as they see fit. The other major example was the inability or unwillingness to prevent looting and arson.The widespread destruction was unopposed, protected by the media, and celebrated by the many corporations that have fallen over themselves to truckle to the unwashed and to give them money. If our rampaging anthropoids can loot once, there is no reason to think they cannot do it again.

Many cities are routinely out of control, with seven hundred homicides in Chicago and three hundred in Baltimore every year. Increasingly criminals are released without bail and small crimes, such as evading subway fares, are ignored when committed by minorities.

The hordes of derelicts grow, the New York subways become a homeless shelter. These are not problems seen in civilized countries. Which America no longer is, to the astonishment and amusement of the world.Perhaps this was to be expected. The American practice of choosing its leaders every two, four, or six years by popularity contest worked, after a fashion anyway, in a sprawling continental country in which government had very little local influence. In a world far more complex, with little ability to plan when those in charge change with paralyzing rapidity, and everything intensely regulated by people unfamiliar with problems, results are poor.

We need not concern ourselves whether police are murdering thugs and gangsters?  I disagree strongly, it should be a major point of concern.  Otherwise, its hard to argue with most of this.  Its basically chicken Little screaming the sky is falling, but ****, it seems like it is falling sometimes.

America’s competition with large countries having intelligently authoritarian and stable governance will prove a losing proposition proposition. The inevitable decline in standard of living, already well underwater, will promote unrest. Here we go again.We have done what Marx couldn’t: Achieved communism, a true dictatorship of the proletariat, of a rabble jacquerie of much noise and no wit, the rule of the unfit. It is a rule only of the culture. The moneyed would not grant it power over anything else. Yet rule it is. We shall hear much of the authenticity of the illiterate, the purity of ghetto urges, the wisdom of the people, the need to lay low the pretensions of the mansion.

Yet the catastrophe has its consolations. It is amusing for those amused by the end of empires. The Soviet Union spoke of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but lived under the dictatorship of a gray aristocracy. America speaks of the rule of the people, a horrible idea, and seems to be getting there.Think of it as the Cultural Revolution by suburban hobbyists. There are the same raging untermenschen, the same desire to destroy anything they do not know, or cannot understand, or be bothered to learn.As a philosophic emollient one may reflect that all empires and civilizations must end, and ours is.

America will remain as a place, a military bastion, a large if declining economic force. It will never again be, even by the low standards of humanity in such things, a relatively free and vigorous society. The world will not again credit its charades of moral leadership. The rot, the tens of thousands of derelict people living on the sidewalks, the looting and fire setting, the censorship, are now visible to the entire earth. Oh well. It was a good thing while it lasted.

Okay, I felt a twinge of respect for this guys wordsmithing when I read "a rabble jacquerie of much noise and no wit, the rule of the unfit"

American exceptionalism has always been a farce, that's nothing new to me.  But the whole "shining city on a hill", yeh that's over and done.  

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Annoyed Liberall Jul 02, 2020

Go to original post on Jul 01, 2020 9:52pm

SJConspirator » 02 Jul 2020, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2020, 7:33 pm

Imagine I’m a big shot at Boeing and my company just completed a new stealth model fighter jet that I want to sell to the government.  Only problem is, my jet is not quite the awesome weapon of war I wanted it to be... it barely gets off the runway, and tends to explode randomly in midair.  IOW, typical fare for the MIC.

Of course I want the taxpayers to spend $billions on my useless junk, but there is this damn stubborn president who won’t start a war with Iran, won’t escalate any existing wars, and I can’t get my contacts at the Pentagon to sign the shady contract that will allow me to drain the slush fund of never ending war, drain that money that should be hoarded by me and never used on education or infrastructure or anything that benefits a nation like the USA.

what to dooo... I got it!  Let’s get some friends of mine in the Intelligence Community to meet with a US reporter and start a rumor that Russia is paying for US scalps in Afghanistan!  That will get the populace riled up, calling for retaliation, putting pressure on Trump to ramp up war expenditures, increase my chances of selling my defective stealth fighter, and inch us all closer to nuclear Armageddon!  Am I a fricken genius or what...

Believe me to tell you one thing my friend. We were finished with all killing of American USA soldiers. We had finally accepted them, and their foreign ways of killing our people. We had gotten used to them and learned to live with them and die from them. The fight was out of us.

Then Mr. Putin offered to buy us lunch if we killed Americans. And I don't mean some stupid chick pea and lentil soup or some cheaply perfumed loofa. I mean kebab - lamb, goat, chicken, you name it. And foreign dishes, too, like the pierogi, with it;s incredibly subtle and delicate complete lack of any flavor.

Well, I can tell you that the hills are again ringing with joyful cries of li li li.

The holy war is on again
We will kill you and your spawn, my friend
May the Jihad live and never end
Holy war is on again! EVERYBODY!

I am willing to give this expert testimony to the congress of your country. My CIA handler will vouch for my credibility. I have never given intel they did not want to receive (known as "bad" intel) - fact in my favor.

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SJConspirator Jul 02, 2020

Go to original post on Jul 02, 2020 8:12pm

Crazytrain » 30 Jun 2020, 9:15 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Jun 2020, 9:15 pm

Ive been thinking about this for some time.

Not at all. Up until the 60's, the republican party was the party of northern liberals.  Racist southerners were the democrats.

Then Nixon tried to get southern votes by pandering to racism. The racist southerners flocked to the repub party, and the liberals left in disgust.

The point is that, no matter the party name, the party of southern conservatives is ALWAYS the party of ugly racists and violent traitors.

 

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DennisTheMenace Jul 03, 2020

Go to original post on Jul 01, 2020 2:11pm

Misty » 03 Jul 2020, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2020, 6:08 pm

Amazing that you could tell from that video that the woman and her 15 year old daughter were 'hopped up' on raw estrogen, and you know all about how they live.

I understand sexism and racism when I see it Sparky.
 
BTW, since you seem to think you know so much, I am NOT a mutt.
I'm a pure breed.

How is it you can metaphor the crap out of things but anyone opposing your hypotheticals better use physical absolutes as a rebuttal.

OK your rules and I will follow from an instinctive point of view, not a socially trained messenger of pretending societal evolution is larger than life itself.

sexism is gender bias between which is superior to the other and that is just psychological class warfare since reproducitons show theya re equally significant to sustaining the numbers of the populaiton existing so far in 18 categorical positions of the population occupying space now. This list transcends all definitions defining who's who in antidiscrimination laws and work place regulations.

1. 8 great grandparents descendents from 16 great great grandparents, 8 male and 8 female
2. 4 grandparents descendents of the previous 8 great grandparents 4 male and 4 female
3. 2 parents descendents from the 4 grandparents 2 male and 2 female
4. each of the last of the generations listed in first 3 and all newly added great great grandchildren of the 16 great great grandparents compounding with males and females that never became parents. The whole population of every species is only equal to the active living reproductions so far as eternally timed apart now.

See active evolution self contained to universal point of inorganic displacement perpetually balancing without intellectual design, just contracting results becoming never duplicated combinaitons of the molecular family of periodice elements in gaseous, liquid, mineral configurations above the atomic level of combined matter sustaining forms shaped so far. Again how finite material can become infinite combinations never duplicated as before again.

Natural kinetic eternity sustaining the universal moment time is stationary and what gets formed never stays the same since added from now on. Doesn't anyone grasp the depths to adapt or become extinct?

Misty, figure out the 18 relative positions to the whole homo sapien populaiton regardless gender, race, creed, color, national origin, etc.

See male and female covers each lifetime transcending from fertilized cell, zygote, embreyo, fetus, out of the womb infant, toddler, adolescent, teen, adult, 1 of 2 parents or not, 1 of 4 grandparents or not, 1 of 8 great grandparents or not

Ancestral universal constant event horizons only developing while currently timed apart occupying space from now on same as arrived so far.

Kinetic motion as specifically as reproductions worked since inception of homo sapien DNA in this atmosphere naturally sustained so far. Intellect just controls the behavior socially cradle to grave.

Eternally timed apart in plain sight, yet every society ever created historically defies now as eternity.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE HONESTLY ANCESTRALLY. 101 REPRODUCTIVE CYCLES IN CALENDAR YEAR 2020 and everyone takes pride in saying nobody knows why life never stays the same since added to the population from now on where an eternal point of separation lasts in plain sight of lifetimes limited to timed apart now.

When ancestries agree to never discuss actual existing completely, just factually speculating what else could make living larger than adapting to the moment relative to numbers occupying space now, this is what humanity left in plain sight. Completely corrupted people going extinct serving dishonest laws.

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nefarious101 Jul 03, 2020

Go to original post on Jul 03, 2020 7:20pm