[quote="Kobia2" post_id=2511327 time=1709591841 user_id=883]
[b]No, you weren't on topic, and as many times as you'd like to insist you were, it just ain't so...[/b]
[b]Again, the topic is why the Arabs aren't helping, taking in the Palestinians...[/b][/quote]
[b]Handled - don't want to help Israel ethnically cleanse the land. [/b]
[quote="Kobia2" post_id=2511327 time=1709591841 user_id=883][b]If you like, go start a new Thread about it...[/b][/quote]
[b]No need. You made it a topic. I answered. Get past it. [/b]
[quote="Kobia2" post_id=2511327 time=1709591841 user_id=883][b]You're claiming conditions on the ground have changed since how so, and in reference to what exactly?[/b][/quote]
[b]The losers rarely fight the same after a trouncing or two. They update strategies, tactics, and weaponry. America was hegemon when Israel beat them. It no longer is. It's a multi-polar world. Ask Bashar. He knows. [/b]
[quote="Kobia2" post_id=2511327 time=1709591841 user_id=883]
[b][b] Ok, that I'll own regarding the Genocide ---- it's just probably because the other 99% ... It can't be both.... So again, the numbers do support any assertion of either a Genocide, or Ethnic Cleansing to depopulate Gaza of Arabs.. [/b][/b][/quote]
[b]I do not answer for anyone's posts but mine. It is not arguable that Israel has ethnically cleansed most of that land, squeezing the Palis into tighter spaces every year, with settlers moving the borders continuously. They are throwing law abiding, full-citizen ethnic Palis out of their homes in east jerusalem. This isn't opinion. That Israel is ethnic cleansing is considered fact by the U.N. Every human rights group on the planet concurs. It's just not a debate. The fact that you think it is one shows how deeply in the tank you are on this issue.
I probably have more [i]genuine[/i] sympathy for Israel than you do, because I have the personal integrity to acknowledge what they're up to. ANY man looking at a people being boxed in and relocated, generation after generation; their spaces getting smaller and smaller and being taken away in chunks by army-backed settlers; and then denying that ethnic cleansing is taking place - that man is either a cult brained idiot or he simply does not understand the meaning of the phrase ethnic cleansing. IT MEANS MOVING AN ETHNIC GROUP OFF OF THE LAND THEY POSSESS SO THAT ANOTHER ETHNIC GROUP CAN TAKE THAT LAND. That is precisely what Israel is doing, in broad daylight. And no one except koolaid drinking neocons doesn't acknowledge it.
WE did that. Here. And we used settlers, in violation of our own laws and treaties, and then the army backed up the settlers. We drove off and murdered off the injuns so that OUR progeny and not theirs could inhabit this land. We put them on tiny reservations the size of Gaza and West Bank and pretended they were "self-governing," I do not tisk, I do not wag a finger. I respect the men who did that. And I respect what the israelis are doing. They just picked the wrong **** century, and it's biting them in the ***.
You think I'm a big pali symp. I consider them ill-bred, inbred, badly bred ****. I sure as **** don't want to live next door to them. I have ten times the respect for jews that I have for palis. You just don't get it. The Israelis are going to have to stop impeding a palestinian state, if it harelips the governor, son. And yes, that is what the rest of the world (except you in-the-tank neocons) knows they are doing. They are in the wrong place at the wrong time to pull off ethnic cleansing. They've been at it for far too long. They now have ONE (1) friend in the world - and that friend is led by a man in a diaper and is consumed with an internal struggle over bathrooms. They have as much chance of prospering long-term from our friendship as the south vietnamese did.
I strongly suspect that your position is not political at all, but religious. [/b]
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