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You all expect that a boring toddling old guy who didn’t campaign at all got millions more votes than The charismatic Obama?

Despite losing ground with every minority demographic?

White elitists fixed this election and it’s obvious to anyone with a brain.

Working class and minorities who were making real gains will now suffer immensely. While the oligarchs in power will laugh and enrich themselves.

Shame on you for not seeing the obvious.
 

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Cannonpointer Nov 05, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 06, 2020 9:51am

We will tell you "I don't believe it and I don't want to hear it" about your lazy entitled religion,  "pure" race that is lazy and entitled etc.

Some of us would be working around here and would be noticing some things.

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WillFranklin Nov 06, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 06, 2020 7:55pm

Kentucky voters are brain dead and their lungs a full of coal dust. They are a drain on our heathcare system.

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Older Guy Nov 05, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 03, 2020 7:54pm

If Trump gets four more years, it will not only be the end of our Democratic Republic, but a worldwide environmental disaster, as well.  The rape of the Biosphere will quicken.  Carbon will continue to be emitted into the atmosphere at ever higher rates, and pollution will continue, unchecked.

As a result of a second Trump term, more people will die than under Stalin and Hitler combined.   Global Heating and a buildup of toxic air, land and water cannot be allowed to drastically increase. 

Yesterday, Trump uttered the clearest measure of his insanity yet:---  He threatened that should he win, he would prosecute Biden and Obama as criminals, and they would end up in jail.
 

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Older Guy Nov 06, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 01, 2020 10:37am

bludog » 07 Nov 2020, 2:16 am » wrote: ↑

07 Nov 2020, 2:16 am

If Trump gets four more years, it will not only be the end of our Democratic Republic, but a worldwide environmental disaster, as well.  The rape of the Biosphere will quicken.  Carbon will continue to be emitted into the atmosphere at ever higher rates, and pollution will continue, unchecked.

As a result of a second Trump term, more people will die than under Stalin and Hitler combined.   Global Heating and a buildup of toxic air, land and water cannot be allowed to drastically increase. 

Yesterday, Trump uttered the clearest measure of his insanity yet:---  He threatened that should he win, he would prosecute Biden and Obama as criminals, and they would end up in jail.

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Older Guy Nov 06, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 01, 2020 10:37am

Horse **** from the ****** room shouldn't qualify. If they can only mouth **** it in hiding, it should stay in hiding.

Termin8tor » 07 Nov 2020, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

07 Nov 2020, 7:15 am

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And Republicans did broadly very well, not losing one single state legislature and taking complete or partial control of a couple.

And likely picking up as many as 15 House seats, assuming some aren't stolen.

But amazingly, only Trump "lost."

But it ain't over til it's over.

So, the voter fraud was rampant in the Presidential election, but squeaky clean in the congressional races, huh?

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SJConspirator Nov 07, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 07, 2020 7:49am

nefarious101 » 08 Nov 2020, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2020, 1:36 pm

it's usually going to be ok...but to believe the news media picks the President?....really?....that's naive as hell.

Well, they certainly picked this one!  Their hatred for Trump and their unified support of Biden that prevented them from doing their damn job and exposing Biden's criminal history, his lies, his racist history, the influence peddling, his obvious dementia,  and his refusal to answer questions by locking himself in his basement for most of the campaign, all contributed to what is likely a razor thin victory. You can't tell me they would have permitted a Republican nominee, be it Trump or anyone else, to get away with all that without attacking him on so many of those issues.  The question now is whether they will begin to do their job now that they've succeeded in getting rid of Trump.
 

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Cannonpointer Nov 07, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 08, 2020 11:47am

I want to say the name of the person that poisoned me and when.

Steve Rabunksy on or about July 29, 2007.

Is that okay for the record?

Is this a record? Or what is it?

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WillFranklin Nov 09, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 08, 2020 6:01pm

Orwell correctly predicted that totalitarianism would come into control of nations through manipulation of language and altering the accepted meaning of words. When men can be women by simply changing terminology, when infanticide transmutes to a constitutionally protected choice, its clear we are well on our way to living in his nightmare dystopia. Biden is not the president elect. Not one state has confirmed their results, not one elector has been appointed. He's just the guy currently projected to win by the media. Words have meanings. Biden is no more president elected than the incumbent. 

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Annoyed Liberall Nov 11, 2020, Huey Nov 11, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 10, 2020 1:53pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ud-claims/

By now, it’s well-established that most of the arguments put forward by President Trump’s reelection campaign in its challenge of the results of the 2020 election are baseless and highly speculative. Even Trump allies, as The Washington Post reported late Tuesday, acknowledge the apparent futility of the effort. Others have reasoned that there’s no harm in going through the motions, with one anonymous GOP official asking, “What’s the downside for humoring him” for a little while?But as scenes in courtrooms nationwide in recent days have shown, there is indeed a downside for those tasked with pursuing these claims. Repeatedly now, they have been rebuked by judges for how thin their arguments have been.The most famous scene came in Pennsylvania, where a Trump lawyer strained to avoid acknowledging that their people were, in fact, allowed to observe the vote-counting process in Philadelphia:

At the city’s federal courthouse on Thursday evening, attorneys for Trump asked a judge to issue an emergency order to stop the count, alleging that all Republican observers had been barred.Under sharp questioning from Judge Paul S. Diamond, however, they conceded that Trump in fact had “a nonzero number of people in the room,” leaving Diamond audibly exasperated.“I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?” asked Diamond, who was appointed to the federal bench by President George W. Bush. Denying Trump’s request, Diamond struck a deal for 60 observers from each party to be allowed inside.At one point on Friday afternoon, 12 Republican observers and five Democrats were watching the count, according to a ballot counter who was working.

 After that “nonzero” answer, Diamond pressed the Trump campaign lawyer to be more explicit — and he suggestively invoked their standing with the bar: “I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: Are people representing the plaintiffs in the room?” The lawyer responded more directly: “Yes.” By the end of the hearing, Diamond invoked his right to make sure lawyers in his courtroom acted in good faith.Another Trump lawyer, Jonathan S. Goldstein, was also grilled by a Pennsylvania judge this week. Under questioning, he acknowledged that, contrary to Trump’s claims about rampant voter fraud, he wasn’t alleging fraud in the 592 ballots he sought to disqualify in Montgomery County, Pa.Again, Trump’s lawyer strained to avoid directly answering the question but was ultimately forced to acknowledge it:.

THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? That’s correct?GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the [Democratic National Committee] or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.THE COURT: Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots?GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.

 The Trump campaign also sought to temporarily stop counting some ballots in Detroit. It cited a GOP poll watcher who had said she had been told by an unidentified person that late mail ballots were being predated to before Election Day, so they would be considered valid.The judge repeatedly asserted this was hearsay, but Trump campaign lawyer Thor Hearne sought to argue that it wasn’t — despite it having been someone who said they heard about something they weren’t personally involved in. He pointed to a vague note the poll watcher produced — which said “entered receive date as 11/2/20 on 11/4/20” — as evidence:

STEPHENS: So I want to make sure I understand you. The affiant is not the person who had knowledge of this. Is that correct?HEARNE: The affiant had direct firsthand knowledge of the communication with the elections inspector and the document they provided them.STEPHENS: Okay, which is generally known as hearsay, right?HEARNE: I would not think that’s hearsay, Your Honor. That’s firsthand personal knowledge by the affiant of what she physically observed. And we included an exhibit which is a physical copy of the note that she was provided.

The two later returned to the point, after Stephens reviewed the note, and Stephens echoed Judge Diamond’s exasperation:TEPHENS: I’m still trying to understand why this isn’t hearsay.HEARNE: Well, it’s, it, I –STEPHENS: I absolutely understand what the affiant says she heard someone say to her. But the truth of the matter … that you’re going for was that there was an illegal act occurring. Because other than that I don’t know what its relevancy is.HEARNE: Right. I would say, Your Honor, in terms of the hearsay point, this is a firsthand factual statement made by Ms. Connarn, and she has made that statement based on her own firsthand physical evidence and knowledge --STEPHENS: “I heard somebody else say something.” Tell me why that’s not hearsay. Come on, now.HEARNE: Well it’s a firsthand statement of her physical –STEPHENS: It’s an out-of-court statement offered where the truth of the matter is [at-issue], right?

In a later written decision, Stephens slammed the argument as “inadmissible hearsay within hearsay.” And after the campaign appealed, Stephens rebuked it Monday for not including required documentation.“I regret to inform you that your submission is defective,” Stephens said.Another of the Trump team’s claims crumbled rather quickly in Georgia.In Chatham County, as in Michigan, the Trump campaign cited supposed evidence that 53 late ballots may have been predated so they could be counted.

Except two witnesses they called acknowledged under oath that they didn’t know whether the ballots were received after the deadline. And two others for the local board of elections testified that they were, in fact, received on time. Judge James Bass dismissed the case in a one-sentence, eight-word ruling, saying, “I’m denying the request and dismissing the petition” and abruptly adjourned the hearing. He then elaborated in a written opinion, saying that “the Court finds that there is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on election day, thereby making those ballots invalid. Additionally, there is no evidence that the Chatham County Board of Elections or the Chatham County Board of Registrars has failed to comply with the law.”The common thread running through all of these is that Trump’s lawyers are regularly offering a significantly more watered-down version of Trump’s claims about rampant voter fraud — because they, unlike Trump, have to substantiate their claims. And as these exchanges show, it’s a rather thankless task that can quickly land them on a judge’s bad side.

 
 

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Phelix_Dacat Nov 11, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 11, 2020 4:33pm

I can not say everything that the Republicans are doing but it is frightening. I have talked to magistrates, social workers, and have filed two restraining orders.

NC-07 is the hardest to flip with the meanest Democrat doing it who knows the rules and follows them. Not even a traffic ticket, 876 FICO.

It's the **** you David Rouzer actually wants up his ***.

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WillFranklin Nov 13, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 13, 2020 11:26pm

Termin8tor » 12 Nov 2020, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2020, 1:52 pm

Misty » 12 Nov 2020, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2020, 1:46 pm

Wait, what happened to, "Since when does the media get to call races?"
Why is it only okay when they call a state for Trump and not okay when they call a state for Biden?

You're equating calling a state won by 2:1 with calling an entire country stolen from Trump?
Psychopath.

All over this forum Trump followers are whining about how the media doesn't get to call races.
But that only seems to apply to states that Trump lost.
It's just fine if they call it for states that Trump carried.
If you people didn't have double standards, you'd have no standards at all.
 
 
Can't wait for you to comment in this thread.

https://www.liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51943

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DennisTheMenace Nov 14, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 13, 2020 6:26am

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things.

Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... rs/576418/

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I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America..hereby declare a national emergency to deal with this threat.
 

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Huey Nov 14, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 14, 2020 11:26am

Misty, I do hope you move the above post from willfranklin.

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WillFranklin Nov 15, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 15, 2020 10:14am

solon » 15 Nov 2020, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2020, 4:04 pm

It is time to make CLEAR in America that you do not have an intrinsic RIGHT to be a PLAGUE RAT to be a pulbic health hazard. It is time to go through the courts to make it without any further dispute the RIGHT of a community to protect itself as piut in the phrase most often attributed to Abrahan Lincoln the constittuion is not a suicide pact. We need a nationwide mask mandate with HUGE fines of a thousand or more dollars and after two fines JAILTIME fro ot wearing a damn MASK

Stop being so SELFISH start caring about your brother citizens and WEAR A DARN MASK

If masks work why are numbers spiking?
 

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Huey Nov 15, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 15, 2020 5:05pm

Buffalo » 16 Nov 2020, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑

16 Nov 2020, 7:09 am

News about a coup somewhere in the world
11/16/2020, 6:52 am

Somewhere in the world, probably in some third world banana republic, a coup d'état is going on to topple a government. Luckily for us, such a thing could never happen here. It all happened according to historical precedents: The forces trying to usurp power used their total control over the media apparatus and broadcasting systems. They filled the airwaves with constant anti-government propaganda. In doing so they were able to distort the perception of reality and steer the opinion of the citizens during the coup. This did not happen overnight; these institutions were infiltrated over the course of many years (even decades).

Meanwhile, on the streets, the junta's thugs assaulted citizens who did not comply with the new order. People were beaten, their property burnt. Lists were compiled of enemies of the new oligarchy. Deprived of information because of the media takeover, citizens found it hard to organize a resistance.

In an attempt to legitimize their takeover, the junta heads had organized a sham election. With the help of shady voting software and some blatant malpractice the new authorities gave their power grab a veneer of decency. Nobody really believed the results, but attempts to contest the legality of the polling methods were blocked by threatening lawyers who took the case to court. Citizens who spoke up were intimidated by agents of the new regime who had infiltrated the security forces.

The whole thing was years in the making. Decades ago, the new regime's agents infiltrated all institutions of higher learning, the civil service administrations and even the army. The entire power structure of the nation was compromised. Top military personnel even showed support for the new order in the months leading up to the "elections". Big business concerns gradually started sponsoring the usurpers over the years, sensing that doing so might protect them from direct assaults by the new regime and hoping that government support could help stifle their competition through decrees and protectionism.

We can only pray for the citizens of this unhappy nation. Thank God things like this are impossible here.

I am reminded of trump's piece of **** move at a recent SOTU address - his only move that night which Nancy Pelosi enthusiastically applauded, as it suited her black soul.

It was the moment when Trump bald-face lied to the nation that Maduro was a usurper in Venezuela, and coup plotter Juan Guaidó was the legitimate president.

Now that I think about it, **** trump in his fat, coup plotting ***. America deserves a coup and so does piece of **** donnie hump - for plotting the same thing against the venezuelan people, and ofr stealing their national treasure as a means to bring it about.
 
 

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GeorgeWashington Nov 16, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 16, 2020 8:23pm

The most dangerous and evil political parties are the Right-wing, gun hoarding, psychotic Nazi and Republican Parties.
Just as in Germany, here in the U.S. our current Nazis are destroying this country from inside, and using Russia to help them.
Braindead Republicans aren't even wondering why our worst enemy is using them instead of trying to influence intelligent liberals.
Again and again, we've heard about Democratic voters and the huge number of college-educated voters who voted for Biden.   There are also plenty of intelligent liberals who didn't graduate from college, but are smart enough to see the Trump Insanity for what it is, and are decent people who recognize Satan's Trump and Republican evil when they see it.   We know they by their deeds, their hatred, their threats, their vengeance, their horrible abuses against those who are horrified victims, including little Central American babies in jail cells.   We know evil, and it's Republican.   Trump was truly evil, but he would've been nothing without all the evil men who supported and manipulated him, knowing that he's so mentally retarded that he can't function without them telling him what to do and say.   Every time Trump allegedly wrote something halfway intelligent, liberals knew it was never written by him.   He works on an animal level and that's his way of dealing with life. 
We need to remember that Trump was always working for his 'base'.   So, every lie he told was to deceive them, knowing that liberals are way too intelligent to believe his garbage.   Trump insulted his base every single day, and those pathetic morons said, 'more, more, we love it when you lie to us, take us to fantasyland...'   Trump's idiots are too stupid to know that the entire intelligent world is laughing at them.

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Coolguy10013 Nov 18, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 17, 2020 10:28pm

DeezerShoove » 20 Nov 2020, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

20 Nov 2020, 8:16 am

Just deputies?  Let us know when the Sheriff himself gets there.

Social workers show up at Grandma's house and neglected children's places too.

Stop abusing the people closest to you.

Apparently you don't know why deputies were at my property today.

I am a US House candidate that just survived an assassination attempt on Judges Road near Wilmington, NC.

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WillFranklin Nov 19, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 20, 2020 2:09pm

Part of the Art that so called rich billionaires utilize to Corrupt the people like Trump uses so well.

First, I learned this in school, the mosaic tobacco virus. It took a real scientist to figure out long ago that there was a disease nobody knew that infected the tobacco plant.
He spent his days pulverizing tobacco leaves and pushing them through mesh filters, again and again, until finally, like a microbiologist he figured it was something smaller, but still a piece of RNA,
a viral particle. Took a long time.

Ever wonder about CRISPR, clustered regularly interspaced short palindrophic repeats, how the knowledge of it came about? It came from microbiologist who studied bacteria that were infected with viruses. They noted that somehow bacteria have their own independent way of immunity in which to deal with viruses. And they were employed by cheese and yogurt manufacturers.
But Why, that was the question a Scientist one woman from the University of Berkeley asked. The enzymes that bacteria manufacture, that fight off a new viral particle was the only clue. 

Everyone knows proteins made by cells are bizarre and how could you unfold them, it's a crazy game. How could bacteria, single cell life with a thin cell wall do that? And its **** amazing to say the least.

And then, there's mRNA, the new vaccines to fight the SARS CoV-2 - did you know that mRNA is the new forefront to fight against a lot of disease, including cancer, and even malaria?

This all comes from raw scientific research from places like the NIH, where we as tax payers spend billions each and every year?

And off the hook, Billionaires who don't know **** profit. People like Trump, who filed bankruptcy, what 6 times, some guy who fights and loses in court thousands of times and now somehow thinks he can take a huge dump on our democracy, and he gets away with it... oh Come on Ted Cruz, you are an asshole, who doesn't know that?

Trump recently said, Pfizer planned to announce its successful vaccine after the election because he was just about to reduce the high cost of medicine. Or maybe, just maybe could it be Mr. asshole Trump, you're just saying that after you lost the election. I mean you could have done it a year or two ago. You could have done it before the pandemic when the greatest economy ever that you created was going strong. But oh no, you had to wait. 

You're a dick. And we all know that it did take a Russian Microbiologist to figure that much out firsthand about the Tobacco Mosaic Virus. 
And this was before Tolstoy wrote his famous book, "War and Peace",  almost like he was saying,
Donald Trump, you stupid **** Moron!!!

 
 

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bludog Nov 21, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 22, 2020 4:22am

Yeah that's right, **** you! Just because you support Trump doesn't mean you have to believe every word he says. He **** up the Covid response. Our beloved governor just had a press conference to give us an update on my beloved state of Nevada. 14 out of 16 of our counties have been flagged. Since the last 15 days we have had record breaking new cases with deaths. So why do I say **** you Trump supporters? Because Trump had 3 rallies here all through October. A couple weeks later, boom. Our Covid cases spike. Not just spike, but record breaking spike. Seriously man. Stop this ****! 

But but but...you can't prove that it was due to the rallies Vegas...yeah, ok. I am sure that its all one big **** coincidence. It fits perfectly with the incubation period, no other unusual events were simultaneously occurring, but yeah, I am sure it's just a coincidence.

But...But...But...there is no evidence that wearing masks and social distancing works...even though it helps in other countries. Look...twat spunks. This really isn't rocket science. It's not. There are plenty of well respected scientists who advocate for these precautions. I prefer to listen to a scientist over a politician about what is safe and what isn't. 

But...but...but...you are just virtue signaling Vegas. You ****! Our hospital beds are at capacity primarily due to covid. That means if some poor bastard gets in a car accident, and his/her arm is dangling off, I guess they are ****. No beds. Yeah, me wanting to have open hospital beds for other trauma cases is virtue signaling. Blow me! And blow me good!

But...but...but...it's just the sniffles. Only the elderly and those with underlying conditions are at risk. God Dammit. WTF is wrong with your brain? Even that being the case, how about if you look out for the elderly or your fellow Americans who are sick already, and try to protect them? What the **** did they ever do to you that would justify spreading the virus to them?

But...But...But...yeah, **** your but...but..but..Listen to the science. Not Trump!

Overall, I was pleased with Trump's performance the first three years, with the exception of the tariff war, but he screwed the pooch here. He **** up. The covid deaths have far surpassed the flu. It's not a joke. It's not political. Get your heads out of your asses. 


May your next **** come out square.

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Coolguy10013 Nov 22, 2020

Go to original post on Nov 22, 2020 8:29pm