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It seems typical that people pick and choose their ethics based on some instinct or whatever feels good to them. 

This causes ethics To become a bizarre creation which is simultaneously arbitrary and deeply important...and the majority of modern discussions on politics seems to be centered around questions.of ethics...upon which no logic can be employed because it is merely an aesthetic feeling...and so there is no negotiation. Or is their any discussion about issues that are actually.political...such as the analysis of power or indeed even the likelihood of survival.

I think I could at least establish that the highest ethical priority must be survical...and this is for purely logical reasons. 

Quite simply...it doesn't matter how 'good' you are if you don't exist. If you are a being that actually cares about having positive effects on the world...you must exist (survive) in order to accomplish this. Non existing people are no use to anyone.

Therefore if you follow some sort of eadical.pacificism where you refuse to fight even in self defense...and you are attacked by some external enemy that is not as nice as you...then they will destroy and replace you...and so your ethics managed to do nothing more than make the world a worse place.

Likewise if you are in the process of extreme dyslexic decline...where only the least capable people are reproducing and passing harmful genetics to the next generation...you must halt that and turn it around...or again you will fail to survive and just like the radical pacifists your ethics do more harm than good to the world. 

Indeed I believe that all human ethics has its source in survival and biologically evolved instincts that assist survival. The anglo race tends to adopt a very individualistic and open code of ethics...and this is because their strategy for survival involved rapid development of technology...and the traits associated with himan genius are such that the anglo people must foster such an environment in order to nurture such genius. You may not realize that survival and biology is what is really dictating what you think is right or wrong...but if you examine the cause and effect of it I believe you will see that it must be so. That is how evolution works. 

Meanwhile if you notice some ethical standard that is recently adopted and stifles or literally precludes survival...I suggest you investigate where it came from. I believe you will always see it comes from an external source...a competing tribe.

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Cannonpointer Oct 11, 2021

Go to original post on Oct 11, 2021 4:27pm

Officers:

There are those who will defend almost anything you do, on the argument that you are "only human." If you believe this - if you are committed to being "only human," then I invite you to get up, walk out, and get a different job. This is not the job for you.

You have asked for a job which puts you in AUTHORITY over ordinary humans - and by even REQUESTING such a post, you have agreed to be extraordinary. You've promised that you can maintain yourself, while on official duty, as more than ordinary, more than "only."

We are ALL "only human" - but from among us have risen men and women of great renown and accomplishment - women and men whose names are etched in the history books and spoken of with reverence. All of these were "only human;" yet each rose above and became immortal, became more than human - made a difference.

You have applied for this very special work because you want to make a difference in your community, want to rise above the pettiness which "only human" allows you to wallow in, want to aspire to the greatness and humility of service. Your mere application is a promise to be more than "only human" - to never hide behind such a weak excuse. Your application is a promise to keep your head when others lose theirs, to keep your calm when all around you are emotional, to REPRESENT THE STATE to a free people. And if this is not true of you, I invite you to withdraw your application, because this is the standard to which you will be held and by which your actions will be judged.

You are no longer only human. You are now among the less than 1% of human beings who have stepped forward proudly and promised to serve and protect - not bully - their fellows. I have only two words for those of you who are "only human:" GET OUT.

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Bumper Oct 14, 2021

Go to original post on Apr 12, 2016 1:20pm

Earlier there were 1,660,871 posts & 54,196 topics and now there are 223,460 posts & 4,870 topics.

Why? Why @Misty  ?

We'll be notifying @Chuck  as soon as we get the ClemSignal working. It looks a lot like the BatSignal except it's douche shaped ... it's also ribbed, for Chuck's pleasure ...
 

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Cannonpointer Oct 14, 2021

Go to original post on Oct 15, 2021 4:25pm

The United States is interfering with and destroying governments which do not allow usury - all of which happen to be the Islamic nations.

All of those nations we have destroyed or are in the process of destroying have one thing in common: Anti-Usury laws.

All of those we trade with and are friendly with do not.

We are being used as the enforcer of the New World Order which our own pResident declared and which all subsequent pResidents have assiduously enforced. First we went to privately issued fiat currency, then we began to force others to do so.

The war aganst Islam has been marketed through the time-tested and long-used tricks of governments throughout history: Use false flag operations to produce the "problem" to which the "reaction" is your original intention. Want war with Spain? Sink your own ship in Havana Harbor. Want into WWII? Leave ships in port which you have advance warning will be bombed by the Japanese. Want to step up operations in Vietnam? Manufacture the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

Want to wage war on Islam? Have the CIA create false flag groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS, and have the FBI create false crimes through their own agitation of young and impressionable citizens who, without being radicalized by their own government officials as pawns in a larger game, would almost certainly never have attempted the put-up offenses for which they were ensnared.

We are at war with Islam for one reason, and one reason ONLY. They won't play the Babylonian Money Magic game.

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SJConspirator Oct 16, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 20, 2016 3:43pm
 

[quote="solon" post_id=1825357 time=1634752237 user_id=2408]
GFY PUNK. Trump  got HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of  Americans KILLED with his LIES and his incompetence. While the rest of the developed world but COVID under control Trump ridiculed people for wearing masks. He bullied governors into reopening too soon and while most countries got COVID under control we had WAVE AFTER WAVE of it.[/quote]

Here we have a total **** moron on display for all to see!
You try calling Trump a murderer when HE ALONE set the record for getting a vaccine available for the country YEARS before any other vaccine was ever developed, saving MILLIONS of lives around the world!
And the reason you think you can get away with such stupid lies is because the US TESTED MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY!  And when thousands of cases are so mild that the person isn't even aware they have it, AND when doctors and hospitals are given stipends FOR EVERY REPORTED CASE, only a dope like you would not be capable of understanding the reasons why we had more cases REPORTED than any other country!

Then you think you can lie further and claim Trump helped spread the disease by having rallies, when tens of thousands of BLM and Antifa surrounded by Trump-hating Democrats like you spent MONTHS rioting in a dozen cities for months last summer, and now the idiot YOU elected is shipping HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of illegals WHO HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TESTED to dozen cities across the country!  And MANY of those illegals have communicable diseases FAR WORSE than Covid!  Tuberculosis, malaria, typhoid, polio, AND EVEN 7000 CASES OF LEPROSY have been brought here thanks to idiots that YOU elected, while your asshole Democrats BLOCKED THE BILL IN CONGRESS DEMANDING ILLEGALS BE TESTED!

So stick your lies about Trump up your fat *** and put your hatred where it belongs, RIGHT ON YOURSELF for electing this traitorous buffoon!
 
 


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Jantje_Smit » 27 Oct 2021, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑

27 Oct 2021, 9:10 am

So they're finally admitting that it was a real gun... enormous amounts of bullets... and criminal charges... that sounds promising...

A story was out yesterday they were using that gun to shoot beer cans earlier in the day.  Don't know if the armorer was involved.  

Greg Gutfeld brought up a good point the other night.  Baldwin, like most of Hollywood types, is anti NRA.  Ok, I am not a member and haven't always supported all of their positions on laws and lobbying.

What the NRA does have is some of the top Firearm Safety Instructors in the country.  If Hollywood could look beyond their hate and realize that there is some good in the NFA, particularly in the safety area, these type of thing may not happen.  Hire an expert NRA Safety Instructor as armorer and safety officer on these sets.  Swallow their pride and use them.  Guarantee this would not have happened, as well as the other alleged mishaps on that set. 

The other point is these Hollywood types hate guns.  Many are scared of them.  But here they are making movies that glorify gunfights and violence.  Profiting  from what they despise. 
 
 
 

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Annoyed Liberall Oct 26, 2021

Go to original post on Oct 27, 2021 10:08am

IkeBana » 03 Nov 2021, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2021, 9:26 am

It's not about the proclamation.  It's about how a President, of course not a **** sociopathic grifter like Trump, but an actual statesman, can simply ignore the Constitution when necessary.  But it's a warning.  With all the bleating and pissing and moaning about having "originalist" SCOTUS justices (like Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett, etc., are originalists), we have a Constitution that is liquid and fluid...never more so than during the American Civil War.  And we can't have people like Trump and Barr with the power of the office, the power to actually create an imperial presidency.

Not sure where you grew up and were educated...if you were...but I was always taught Lincoln overstepped his authority and played "fast and loose" with the Constitution.  I say liberals dig up his remains, impeach him and make it impossible for him to ever hold elected office again.

 

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TB7 Nov 02, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 03, 2021 2:19pm

There was a time when certain activities were deemed necessary for the benefit of the state and its citizens, and those things were paid for with tax money, creating an unfortunate layer of beaurocracy, but suppressing some degree of corruption that always comes with profit motive.

For example, criminal justice and incarceration. The state governments, and federal penitentiaries were responsible for housing, punishing and rehabilitating prisoners, at the taxpayers expense. Now, the criminal justice system is privatized, with companies like Vanguard (NYSE VTI) making bank off crime, literally. With profit motive clearly driving criminal justice, the United States prison population has ballooned to the highest in The world… we now incarcerate more people than China or Russia, by far.

Providing clean water used to be a function of city government, that was turned over to Nestle who now charges you by the bottle to drink Evian (naive spelled backwards, a subtle mockery of the great unwashed masses).

phone service was once a public utility, now it is handled by private cellular companies like Verizon.

I could go on, there are many examples. The point is, government has no raison det’re anymore, no purpose, no reason to be, except for one thing… to enforce the will of the oligarchs at the barrel of a gun.

If Nestle runs out of ground water to bottle and sell you, the military will secure them new territory to drain more ground water. If Apple runs out of lithium for to make cell phones and iPads, the military will occupy Afghanistan for 20 years so they can mine more. If Monsanto needs to enforce their IP (privately owned seeds and crops) rights by taking over your farm, the military will be there to evict you off your land.

The previous functions of government are totally taken over by multinationals in the U.S., except for deploying government muscle as a tool of the corporations, and keeping track of SS, Medicare, welfare, etc. (pacify the masses with just enough money to keep them from rioting).

This trend will only continue, government is not public anymore. The multinationals ARE the government for all intents and purposes, and they write the laws and enforce them.. Corporations now effectively govern us all, in the applications of operations that used to be public, are now private, and the biggest difference is, we at least got to vote for the public asshole politicians, but nobody elected the current rulers.

They are unelected rulers who can displace thousands or millions of workers by closing down Walmart’s in one town and opening in another. The power of a Fortune 500 CEO to effect the lives of average citizens is far greater than a Senator or governor. Hail to the NEW chief.. multinational corporations

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This is so absurd and so out of touch...I actually question your sanity.

For one thing...the utter contempt that 'progressives' have for the working class has been well known since the 1920s...George Orwell wrote a book 'the road to wigan pier' about this phenomenon. And clearly communists never ended up being good for workers.

But what have you done for working people and small business owners lately?

Well.. you create massive regulations inspired by environment and diversity concerns which dramatically raise the cost of goods, housing, and are very difficult for small business owners to afford compliance with while giving them lawsuit minefield

You decriminalization shoplifting and attack law enforcement in general

You create lockdowns which make it impossible for small and medium business to survive

You talk about how there needs to be less white teachers etc

You attack the energy sector thus reducing available jobs for workers

You expand social programs for non workers.so those people live better off than even workers as if you just want to humiliate the people who want to work

You support mass immigration so that wages remain stagnant and legal citizens have to compete with thr labor force of the entire world

And you laugh and gloat every time workers lose...telling them they deserve it

Certainly workers must feel that your desire to disarm them is based on your desire to simply exterminate them and are merely afraid of violent resistance.

Workers do not merely dislike you...they are terrified of you. They know u want them dead.

You are never going to be able to gaslight workers into feeling otherwise. Don't even try. This is a dumb strategy.
 

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Neo Nov 06, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 07, 2021 3:58pm

The "GREAT" Obama AMBUSH....
That Fell FLAT ON ITS ****' FACE!!!!! 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y04g6OPLnQ

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Crazytrain Nov 07, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 08, 2021 9:23am

Isabel » 18 Sep 2021, 3:04 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Sep 2021, 3:04 pm

You're not in Hicksville any more, assholes.
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nuckin futz Nov 10, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 10, 2021 5:11pm

Crazytrain » 18 Nov 2021, 1:21 am » wrote: ↑

18 Nov 2021, 1:21 am

So it's all the black people's fault that this country doesn't do great things when republicans run the country. Ok.

Exactly. The rubes don't seem to mind it much when the Republican party whores itself out to farmers whose livelihoods tanked thanks to Trump's trade wars, or when it whores itself out to corporate America and billionaires by making it possible for them to pay zero in taxes, or by passing off a big GIVEAWAY to the filthy rich as some middle-class tax cut (NOT). Nor do they mind when the GOP whores itself out to the NRA, "proud" boys, neo-Nazis, supremacists, and similar vermin. Not to mention the fact that 11 OF THE LAST TEN RECESSIONS OCCURRED UNDER A REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION. 

But Black people get a few crumbs? Heaven forbid!!
 
 

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Crazytrain Nov 17, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 18, 2021 1:32am

Vegas » wrote:

22 Jan 1970, 6:16 am

Huey » 19 Nov 2021, 9:12 am » wrote: ↑

19 Nov 2021, 9:12 am

I don't enter his PG threads to debate him.  Even when sticking to facts he will ban or PG your post.  The only comments I have made is when he will post something to a poster he already banned.  Pretty stupid because unless the poster logs out they can't see it.

Not worth the trouble.  Dude's an idiot.  When he sees this he will most likely troll me from thread to thread.

You're just a **** coward.  Everyone knows it.  You **** cone on here and lie every day and get pissy when I make you look foolish over it.

Run away stewardess.   Lol
 

 

Sorry Little BV you have NEVER made me pissy or look foolish.  About the only thing you are good for is laughing at on a boring day.

LMAO!  Carry on!

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SJConspirator Nov 18, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 19, 2021 9:27am

Africa is full of failed states so any data about it would need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Here are things that can alter rates of transmission: 1) genes. Are Africans asymptomatic less often? 2) vaccination rates..again are they asymptomatic less often? 3) percent of population in rural versus urban environment 4) amount of travel 5) reliability of diagnoses and records 6) how much contact occurs between people for cultural reasons 7) availability of medicine 8) death rates for conditions other than covid (if u die of malaria you can't also die of covid) 9) weather (flu more dangerous in colder climes)

Probably other things I did not take note of.

I can imagine all of these things being a factor more or less. I wouldn't focus on merely one cause

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SJConspirator Nov 22, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 22, 2021 8:06pm

 
 

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Zaro Nov 27, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 27, 2021 1:54pm

Trump falsehoods over the past four years, from his bull about the stock market and hooey about global warming to disinformation about the legitimacy of the election and bunkum about the coronavirus pandemic. It was exhausting. And numbing.The public’s apathy and despair towards Trump’s lies, researchers point out, were by design: The attacks mirrored a Russian propaganda technique known as the “firehose of falsehood,” which is exactly what it sounds like—relentless, rapid, bogus information. As Mother Jones‘ Mark Follman wrote in October, “Trump is using the autocrat’s playbook. Vladimir Putin’s, to be specific.”Now the Washington Post‘s Fact Checker team has finished its final catalog of the extent of the former president’s efforts to mislead and misinform us. According to its tally, Trump made more than 30,000 “false or misleading” claims during his presidency. Half of those lies were told during his last year in office, according to the Post‘s database:

 

Here’s a chart of the exponential growth of Trump’s cumulative “untruths”:Washington Post
 
 
 

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Crazytrain Nov 28, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 25, 2021 2:18pm

Omicron420 » 29 Nov 2021, 11:50 am » wrote: ↑

29 Nov 2021, 11:50 am

Yes.  In my opinion Obama cucked them hard.  That was his primary job.  As follows:

--Turn the left into another War Party
--Extinguish all anti-war sentiment in the left
--Extinguish all anti establishment thought in the left

It was Obama that made war cool for them.  He made the DC Estab cool for them.

Before Obama I respected the anti war movement. Found them perhaps naive but genuine. When they packed their **** up after Obama was elected, not to return when he expanded on Bush's wars, they lost me. When they came out in force after anti war candidate Trump won they revealed themselves to be partisan hacks with shallow convictions.
 

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Omicron420 Nov 28, 2021

Go to original post on Nov 29, 2021 10:54am

The modern leftist is truly a broken individual...both psychologically and spiritually. 

And I believe I have identified a key method that the elite have used to corrupt the soul of people...it involves identity. 

Identity is tied to our sense of purpose. In order to have any meaning to your life you absolutely must feel connected to something with both a legacy and a destiny...something that existed before you were born and will carry on after your death. 

Without this...you might as well live like a complete narcissist as if the umiverse will end end you die. And that would be a miserable existence because if the universe ceases to exist in a few decades then absolutely nothing you do matters. This is the fatal nihilism of modernity...and explains why so many people in the so called 'first world' seem absolutely miserable compared to the third world. 

The most immediate and most core aspect of identity is imo the family. Your parents are your legacy and if you have children they are your destiny. This is why it is so rare
to find a father or mother who struggles with nihilism..families also tend to look out for eachother...unless they have been made deeply dysfunctional by modernity...so I see them as the origin of human altruism, socialism, and indeed the state. A proper monarchy is based around family.

Also worth noting is that your family cannot change. You were born with your family and it will still be your family when you die. This is another very critical aspect of identity tity...ifnit is based on something immutable then it is solid. You know what you are today and what you will be if you live another 100 years. 

Being adopted is imo one of the most difficult things to come to terms with psychologically. 

 

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SJConspirator Dec 01, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 01, 2021 4:19pm

"The Number Needed to Treat (NNT) in order to prevent a single case, hospitalization, ICU admission, or death, is a standard way to measure the effectiveness of any drug."

"Let’s examine [url=http://www.fda.gov/media/153409/download]Pfizer’s EUA application[/url] and the FDA’s [url=http://www.fda.gov/media/153447/download]risk-benefit analysis[/url]. [b]By Pfizer’s own admission, there were zero hospitalization, ICU admissions, or deaths, in the treatment or control group[/b] in their study of 2,300 children ages 5 to 11.

So the Number Needed to Vaccinate in order to prevent a single hospitalization, ICU admission, or death, according to Pfizer’s own data, is infinity. ∞."

"[b]Here’s the benefits model:[/b]

[b]"[/b]..... [b]the Pfizer clinical trial showed NO reduction in hospitalizations or death in this age group. So injecting all [url=https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/101-child-population-by-age-group#detailed/1/any/false/574,1729,37,871,870,573,869,36,868,867/62,63,64,6,4693/419,420]28,384,878 children[/url] ages 5 to 11 with two doses of Pfizer[/b] (which is what the Biden administration wants to do) [b]would save, at most, 45 lives[/b] (0.8 effectiveness x 57 fatalities that otherwise would have occurred during that time period = 45)."

[b]Here’s the risk model:[/b]

    [b]During that time, there are [url=https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality]128 reports[/url] of fatal side effects following coronavirus mRNA injections in people [url=https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-updates%2Fcases-in-us.html#vaccination-demographic]12 to 24[/url].[/b] (That’s through October 22, 2021. There is a reporting lag though so the actual number of reports that have been filed is surely higher).

    Kirsch, Rose, and Crawford (2021) [url=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1stq2nHFjAcMHhxJhWiXa33wl6x0Ga1qdIxodZnFixRw/edit#]estimate[/url] that VAERS undercounts fatal reactions by a factor of 41 which would put the total fatal side effects in this age-range at [b]5,248[/b]."

    With potentially deadly side effects including myo- and pericarditis [url=https://openvaers.com/covid-data/mortality]disproportionately impacting youth[/url] it is reasonable to think that over time the rate of fatal side effects from mRNA shots in children ages 5 to 11 might be similar to those in ages 12 to 24.

[b]So, to put it simply, the Biden administration plan would kill 5,248 children via Pfizer mRNA shots in order to save 45 children from dying of coronavirus.  [/b]

[b]For every one child saved by the shot, another 117 would be killed by the shot."[/b]

These snippets could not even begin to reveal the article's contents:
[url]https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/what-is-the-number-needed-to-vaccinate[/url]
 


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miketx Dec 02, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 03, 2021 1:17pm