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OK. Maybe not an undercurrent but a full blow blown flash flood. 

Jesus, these chronic pot heads are **** stupid. 

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freeman Dec 03, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 03, 2021 8:38pm

 The Lancet:

High COVID-19 vaccination rates were expected to reduce transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in populations by reducing the number of possible sources for transmission and thereby to reduce the burden of COVID-19 disease. Recent data, however, indicate that the epidemiological relevance of COVID-19 vaccinated individuals is increasing. In the UK it was described that secondary attack rates among household contacts exposed to fully vaccinated index cases was similar to household contacts exposed to unvaccinated index cases (25% for vaccinated vs 23% for unvaccinated). 12 of 31 infections in fully vaccinated household contacts (39%) arose from fully vaccinated epidemiologically linked index cases. Peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type [[1]].
 In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”) is reported weekly since 21. July 2021 and was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older [[2]]. This proportion is increasing week by week and was 58.9% on 27. October 2021 (Figure 1) providing clear evidence of the increasing relevance of the fully vaccinated as a possible source of transmission. A similar situation was described for the UK. Between week 39 and 42, a total of 100.160 COVID-19 cases were reported among citizens of 60 years or older. 89.821 occurred among the fully vaccinated (89.7%), 3.395 among the unvaccinated (3.4%) [[3]]. One week before, the COVID-19 case rate per 100.000 was higher among the subgroup of the vaccinated compared to the subgroup of the unvaccinated in all age groups of 30 years or more. In Israel a nosocomial outbreak was reported involving 16 healthcare workers, 23 exposed patients and two family members. The source was a fully vaccinated COVID-19 patient. The vaccination rate was 96.2% among all exposed individuals (151 healthcare workers and 97 patients). Fourteen fully vaccinated patients became severely ill or died, the two unvaccinated patients developed mild disease [[4]]. The US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) identifies four of the top five counties with the highest percentage of fully vaccinated population (99.9–84.3%) as “high” transmission counties [[5]]. Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures.

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freeman Dec 04, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 04, 2021 10:39pm

Trump is a douchebag

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Cannonpointer Dec 04, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 05, 2021 1:13pm

Benson13 » 07 Dec 2021, 6:17 am » wrote: ↑

07 Dec 2021, 6:17 am

Republicans Are Terrified That Marjorie Taylor Greene Becoming The Face Of The Party

Kinda late...she already is

Sure. If you believe Trump is flying to Scotland to avoid prosecution or Trump Russian collusion. 

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Liberals are scum Dec 08, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 08, 2021 4:20pm

Blackvegetable » 07 Dec 2021, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Dec 2021, 3:32 pm

Masculine, Feminine and Neuter

no...to this point I've established the difference between Gender and Sex, but am not meeting any success getting you to acknowledge it.

no...just predictable tedium

Oh wow!! Seeing that no where in science will you find a "neuter" gender anywhere!!
 
Now, in terms of "sexual orientation", which is a different modality that gender, you might find 20 listings, but none of them are "gender" since sexual orientation is a CHOICE, not something found naturally of which gender is! Reality of science says that in order to procreate, you need as a requirement, 2 genders in order to produce offspring. That requires a donation of X and Y chromosomes, and only 2 genders are known by science to contribute those. "Neuter" isn't real. and never has been. It's a choice to be neutered but that does not change your gender.

Looks like "black vegetable" just rotted on the vine there moron!!
 

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Annoyed Liberall Dec 07, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 08, 2021 8:04am

I have been hearing this far too much: conservatives who consume mainstream right wing media/radio/etc keep saying that wokeness...the left...blm...etc are 'marxist'.

This is totally false. 

Marxism was actually fundamentally opposed ideologically to and sort of 'identity politics'. Marx suggested that the evil capitalists use identity to control people with divide and conquer tactics and distract people from the only issues that really matters: class warfare. 

Marx wanted people to 'emancipate' themselves from any racial/national/religious identities and unite as one common proletariat to overthrow the bourgoise. 

Communists also typically saw pet issues like homosexuality, environmentalism, etc. As bourgoise concerns that only the bourgeois have the luxury to virtue signal about. 

Marx also felt it was a complete waste of time to try to turn the sort of people who loot luxury stores into revolutionaries...their criminality still buys into bourgoise concepts of status.

Indeed Martin Luther king...which has somehow become the darling of modern conservatism...whose handler was the Communist jew Stanley levison...was giving a Communist take when he said he didn't want people judged by the color of their skin. 

Indeed modern conservatism is much closer to communism than leftist is. Especially...strange as it may sound...conservatives who celebrate capitalism as a way to lift everyone out of poverty. Because both you and communism place the focus of your values on economics and ending poverty. 

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SJConspirator Dec 12, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 13, 2021 4:32pm

Vegas » 12 Dec 2021, 6:23 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Dec 2021, 6:23 pm

Vaccinated. Isn't that special?

I'm 64, druggie, whoremonger, alcoholic, smoke everything, snort all kinds of exotics,  vaxxed, boosted, got trump  covidosiss...tested positive 12-3,  Felt kinda **** for a week, tested neg.  yesterday. Jab not a preventative, but will keep ya  alive. Tonight I will snort coke off a sweet young lady's asshole!!!

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GeorgeWashington Dec 13, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 12, 2021 9:37pm

Well you gotta look at both sides. I think the right wing is all about enriching themselves and having the lower classes pick up the bill

While I see the left as enriching themselves and having the rich pick up the bill. If you confuse the issue you get lost.

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SJConspirator Dec 14, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 15, 2021 12:27am

There's a high likelihood "Covid" is a complete fabrication. No such thing exists or is indistinguishable from a seasonal flu virus.

When progressive retards mocked Trump for calling Covid a "hoax," which Btw was a deliberate misinterpretation of the Orange Dotard's mockery of Democrats, THAT was actually the truth.

[b]It is indeed a complete hoax.[/b]

Everything derivative (debates on masks, vaccines, passports, Covid origins) is just a side show.

So even though people like [color=#0000ff]@[u][i]GeorgeWashington[/i][/u][/color] and [color=#0000ff]@[u][i]Jantje_Smit[/i][/u][/color] are right to criticize Covidiocracy, my position is simply that no such thing exists. Therefore there is no purpose to these debates other than to advance a globalist agenda.

So on one side we have delusional retards who want mandatory masks, shutdowns, vaccine passports, etc. (Delusional retard side)

On the other side we have well meaning people who reject globalist propaganda and agenda but are/were misled by thinking Covid exists. (Well meaning but wrong)

It's not difficult to manipulate statistics. We already have hard evidence that they put Covid as COD on countless death certificates. Now think harder. What's to prevent them from making up death statistics?

How do YOU know that [X] # of ppl died in 2021? Did YOU go in with a group of unbiased experts and verify the numbers?

Remember, these are the same "elites" (vermin( who tell lies about GEE DEE PEE, unemployment, inflation, and economic statistics all the time.

Oh and don't forget we're supposed to believe the flu disappeared or cases dropped by 98% in 2020.

But let's just showcase my point - why the well meaning camp is wrong.

Despite very low vaxx rates, there are hardly any Covid cases and deaths in Africa for example.

One explanation is the liberal (forgive pun) use of HCQ/Eye ver mec tun. The problem with this explanation is that HCQ/eye ver mec tun are used as treatments, not prevention. We would expect high # cases in Africa even if this were true and Covid were as contagious as (((they))) claimed. And indeed both delusional retard and well meaning but wrong camp agree Covid is highly contagious?

So where da **** did the cases in Africa go?

Another explanation is that all of this is a bunch of donkey manure and nothing (((THEY))) say is remotely close to reality.

There is no Covid, there is no scamdemic, etc. The vaxxines are poison serums (I believe their goal is long term depopulation).

So unless I see overwhelming evidence, I will assume it was a bad show put on by the globalists meant to entertain themselves (as well as ppl like myself, teehee) at the expense of rubes' livelihoods.
 
 


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[url=https://liberalforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1890787#p1890787]Go to original post on Dec 17, 2021 12:24am[/url]

WELL, another day, and another defeat for the ball less one known as Blackvegetable.

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SJConspirator Dec 17, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 17, 2021 6:30pm

of course the 'left' is just deciding to worship big pharma and the government as a way to 'own the rednecks'....which is of course the only important activity that exists in their pathetic life.

but there is also way too much trust among ordinary people and even on the right.

It is literally mRNA engineering. it is gene therapy. And clearly you are going to be forced to get boosters every 6 months.

Imagine what the government COULD do if it just wants access to all the DNA of its **** population? And WOULD the government do that sort of thing if they could get away with it? OF COURSE.

We are living in a kafka esque sort of dystopia right now.

The government spies on absolutely everything you do...collects all data on absolutely everyone...and uses AI to analyze that data.

corporations can literally patent a strand of DNA...which of course started out being used for GMO technology.

BUt what if human beings are about to be the new **** GMO? why not?

and we are allowing all of this access because we are afraid of a bad flu? that kills less than 1% of the people it infects?

I really am baffled at the modern man. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

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Cannonpointer Dec 17, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 18, 2021 10:12am

Neo » 20 Dec 2021, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2021, 1:25 pm

Constantly asking for sources, usually amounting to just other opinions written by non experts in the media, is **** pointless. State and defend your opinions, link wars bore me and those insisting on them can shampoo my crotch.

The problem in this **** is not that we debate opinions.  Everything is opinions on every political/current events forum.  It's pretty difficult to find something political to post that isn't an opinion...unless it's something like, "Hey! Gerald Ford fell down again!"

But you oversimplfy, particularly in a **** like this when so many of the "opinions" posted, and I would suggest at least half, are as vapid as the "you suck *** dick" opinion, or the "you're a **** retard" opinion.  Want to have a better forum?  Get rid of trolls who post nothing but braindead invectives, or violate typical decently moderated forum guidelines such as, no callout threads, no editing another member's quote, and no **** trolling (which is not spamming).

But there's nothing wrong with arguing opinions using other opinions, particularly opinions from legitimate sources and perhaps recognized experts in their fields.  I have no problem with somebody saying, "OK where TF did you get this steaming pile of horse ****?"

Using the opinions of others to build one's opinions is what mankind does, along with poisoning itself out of existence.
 
 

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SJConspirator Dec 19, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 20, 2021 2:08pm

SJConspirator » 21 Dec 2021, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Dec 2021, 1:27 pm

How is inflation caused by Biden?

well they say.. Its the over spending. And the fed printing money.. and the spike in oil prices.. cutting off the pipeline. oil is in everything.. The stimulus packages may have got the ball rolling?
 Too much money chasing to little goods.. I'm not so  I sure believe that.
I have a different theory.. I think inflation is caused by greed... if everyone didn't raise there prices.. maybe things would stabilize.
now deflation and inflation are quite similar.. I would like an explanation too..
Too much money in the system makes the dollar lose value.. so it takes more dollars to buy the same amount of goods? so a 20 dollar bill has the buying power of a ten?
 
 

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Annoyed Liberall Dec 20, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 21, 2021 1:36pm

FOS » 21 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Dec 2021, 5:50 pm

In my experience on the internet.. it is quite obvious that although I can construct very compelling arguments and have a deeply predictive and explanatory view of politics...the left is unable to even hear my arguments.

The people who are able sometimes to admit that I made a point happen to be conservatives and libertarians and sometimes anarchists.

There is an obvious psychological difference between the two. People who consider themselves leftists have somehow been so deeply brainwashed that they have lost all sentience. They just want to be good servants to their masters and could not care less about truth or consequences.

I certainly cannot disagree. But my own experience with the right, PRE TRUMP, is that their behavior was extremely similar. 

These days, it is less pronounced on the right - and it is bloody ubiquitous on the left. But snapshots are snapshots - and the moving picture we live in is a two party production. Back when the repukes became slavish goons for corporate power (for example, huey defended citizens united, as well as torture - neo defended torture - almost every conjob on the board defended torture, and ALL the mother **** defended globalism and so-called free trade), the democrats were still the party of labor. They fought AGAINST globalism. The democrat old guard was stridently nationalist and protectionist, beyond anything Trump manifested.

It was only after republicans turned our nation over to the globalists that democrats threw dignity to the winds and started sucking global corporate dick. 

And not fer nuthin? I can find you an *** load of leftists who oppose aipac and israeli influence. You find me ANY repuke, and I can swab that ***'s mouth for jew semen every time, never fails. 

The repukes are cheek by jowl with the demonrats on covid - if they were not, the game would not be afoot. They are presenting TOKEN resistance, while the demonrats' agenda continues to gain steam. 
 
 

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SJConspirator Dec 20, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 21, 2021 6:00pm

The truth will set you free.. but first it will piss you off

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FOS Dec 21, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 22, 2021 12:39am

Days start getting longer now, Northern Hemispherians.

Let's have a little better attitude about life for a while.
Embrace the give and take, the live and let live spirit.

In about a week, we can start to try (yet again) to be the person our dog thinks we are...

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Sure, some folks have squatted in our brains and deserve flailing of skin with brands of fire.
Maybe an electronic lost-context post has enraged us for no truly identifiable reason.
So you found out a now-former friend voted for (in your opinion) the worst human on Earth.

I hope the Mystery of the Magic Mask will be solved or forgotten soon.
Maybe the Roswell Rods of the Vaccine will be triggered and finally the cyborgs will march.

Let's try to keep the youngins from being denied their childhood at least.
Adults can manage the scares and chaos better than we have.
Be a good example in front of the kids. Some of them are parents themselves...  
 
 

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Huey Dec 21, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 22, 2021 9:27am

has the OP taken a dose of Ivertectmin?

Has he taken a booster shoot...just like Trump?

I think not. The OP is a is all talk and no walk.
 

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Jimjc Dec 24, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 24, 2021 5:05am

The problem that you are encountering, libdave, is that you are bringing level one arguments to a level 2, level 3 board.

Yes, we are replete with lowbrows, always. And yes, we tire of holding our end and engage in a bit of trolling.

But many of us on this board have worked through the level one **** you are bringing. I mean, you sling adam smith like he's the new kid with the shiny idea. A bit of infill has been experienced since his day. We've gone from theory to practice.

And it is the actual practice of capitalism that affects our lives - not the theory.

You still have not explained why the nanny state needs to be involved in the economy at the level of regulating the trading boards which you APPARENTLY require in order for you and some buddies to go into bidness together...

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SJConspirator Dec 29, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 29, 2021 8:04pm

[quote="Crazytrain" post_id=1897870 time=1640403939 user_id=2718]
No dear I work in a hospital. I've seen ivermectin treated souls going on a vent.[/quote]

Of course hospitals make more money when they put folks on a vent, so nobody in here should be surprised.
But if ivermectin is all they took they were at a distinct disadvantage. Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine work best in multi-drug/nutraceutical protocols. To cure my cold the same day I took 1-1/2 doses of ivermectin (based on my weight 24mg), 500mg of quercetin, 50mg zinc via 220 zinc sulfate cap and 5,000 units of vitamin D3.
If you want to stay stupid that's up to you. It looks like Omicron promises to soon rescue us all from ignoramuses and liars through herd immunity, perhaps while even reducing further fear porn issued by morons that haven't bothered to learn a thing in nearly 2 years.

You work in what 3rd world countries used to be called the "house of death", a label that has been earned these days by U.S. hospitals and our Big Pharma Illness Industry through COVID malpractice and related genocide. As further confirmed by our comparative COVID death rate.
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1046.0]Compare COVID death rate in the non-ivermectin U.S. with ivermectin-rich Nations[/url][/b]

For those that don't want to remain in abject ignorance and wind up being the victim of the corrupt compromised, conflict of interest and greed-driven system crazytrain works for, here's what real doctors have been doing since the spring of 2020 to keep people out of their murderous hands by curing them on an outpatient basis before they need hospitalization:
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=390.0]NIH deadly recommendations compared to those of COVID-competent professionals[/url][/b]
99+% effective even among elderly and high-risk patients
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1007.0]Dr. Zelenko recommendations of 3-23-2020 - 500 patients 0 deaths 0 hospitalized[/url][/b]
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=359.0]1,900 COVID+ elderly and high-risk individuals 0 deaths 1 hospitalization[/url][/b]
By summer of 2020
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=461.0]Ivermectin treatment is a ‘real killer of coronavirus’ - a "wonder drug"[/url][/b]
more recently
[b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=1068.0]Secret formula eradicates COVID in India state of 230 million people[/url][/b]

 Now everybody ask crazytrain what he recommends people take at home to cure their COVID, so they can avoid hospitalization. It will quickly be revealed that he is nothing more than just another one of Big Pharma's bitches. Oh that's right, we already know:  [b][url=https://www.covid-19forum.org/index.php?topic=41.0]Fauci's "go home and isolate" treatment for COVID - a death sentence for some[/url][/b]
 
Hospital murder:
[url]https://rumble.com/embed/vona2k/?pub=4[/url]


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DeezerShoove » 29 Dec 2021, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Dec 2021, 8:02 pm

You just want to be drunk with power. Maybe he's so morally incorruptible you insulted him.
Elliot Ness would have done the same...

So begging for money is incorruptible. i

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Jinn Martini Dec 29, 2021

Go to original post on Dec 29, 2021 8:05pm