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Olivaw » 01 Aug 2020, 1:49 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2020, 1:49 am

Polar1ty » 01 Aug 2020, 12:59 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2020, 12:59 am

"152,000 victims"

Yes, that's typically what a pandemic does. With a few exceptions like the 2nd wave of the Sp. Flu, it wipes out the most vulnerable and those with significant health problems. It's questionable you are "retired" (presumably 60+) and have lived through at least a few pandemics to not realize this simple, basic fact.

BTW, before you scream about Trump or "But South Korea!", Korea (one of the best responses) uses HCQ.

Yes, they use that drug you and your stupid ilk despise, instead of putting people onto ventilators (and worse, PAYING HOSPITALS TO DO IT), which actually makes people more likely to die from late-stage Covid-19 as the air forces the infection deeper into the lungs.

http://m.koreabiomed.com/news/articleVi ... idxno=7428

Like I said, you offered nothing but emotional drivel and propaganda. It would make your head spin if I offered damning evidence of the miscount of total deaths, so I will spare you the headache you would receive from an overload of cognitive dissonance.

More ****!

if COVID-19 is a typical pandemic, you’ll have no trouble listing all the pandemics over the last 60 years that killed over 150,000 Americans in their first four months. We’ll wait.

Deaths are not overstated. Save that noise for the crackpot crew. 

I'm not convinced that HCQ is an effective treatment.  I am unlikely to be convinced by a member of the cult on a political forum.  Most of what you and your ilk spew is right wing disinformation. My brief encounter with you suggest that everything you spew is right wing disinformation. 

Whose SOK are you, fluffy?

Good call.

South Korea is convinced that HCQ is not a proven effective treatment. So much so they removed HCQ from their guidelines over a month ago.

The article touted from KoreaBiomed was written on 02-13-2020. Almost 6 months ago.  In the meantime, South Korea did a study with over 200 people that failed to prove HCQ is an effective treatment for Covid-19. That study was reported in the press in April of 2020 and was also  published in the  "International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents" which is behind an Elsevier paywall. A quick moment to say: **** Elsevier!

South Korea removed HCQ from it's guidelines about two months later, in June 2020.

Hang around, Polar1ty's Dad and Uncle (CannonPointer & GeorgeWashington, which is which I can't say) will be by to chide you for not bowing to their favorites huge IQ. You know Polar1ty has a huge IQ, because Polar1ty keeps talking about it like Rainman talking about Wapner. It's also the foundation of all of their inherent bigotry and racism and a damn good portion of their unearned overbearing self-esteem.

   

Enjoy.

 
 

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Olivaw Jul 31, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 01, 2020 2:37am

First, Jagadeesh has resign to spend more time with family.  

Second, many complain that website logging off. 

To resolve complain, a change were made to cookie setting, but cookie name was not change.  This cause user to require delete all cookie. 

When change cookie setting, also change cookie name or user not logging in.

Simple solution, change cookie name, and no more trouble, but Jagadeesh are fail at job once again. 

 I have resolve ticket and forum now run like greased curry tandoori on fresh naan. 
 

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DennisTheMenace Aug 03, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 03, 2020 7:27am

KFSW » 03 Aug 2020, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2020, 2:16 pm

Its crimeariver you ****** ***.  As in Crimea returning to Russia as Obama meddled in Ukraine.

It was a BITTER defeat for niggar Bammy.   His masters told him to put a NATO base in Crimea. 

Puppet Bammy was a faithful HOUSE NIGGAR....but he got his *** kicked up to his shoulders by PUTIN

                             

I would take issue with this characterization of events.

Fair enough, Putin DID *** rape the porch monkey. But you left out where he made him orally service his then-**** member, removing all the nigpoop with his tongue.

Крым-это всегда Россия.

 

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KFSW Aug 04, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 04, 2020 4:12pm

DennisTheMenace » 04 Aug 2020, 4:28 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2020, 4:28 am

Even cops know about how long a human being can live without breathing.

In any event.  Chauvin's future does not like bright.  Ex-cops don't fair well in prison.

With his notoriety, he'll probably be in solitary confinement for his own protection.

No one will be able to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds that way. 

BIG BUBBA will teach him carnal knowledge, and he will become a wide receiver!      
 

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DennisTheMenace Aug 05, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 05, 2020 10:25am

“Efforts to reject the mainstream merely result in a new conformity.” -MIT Technology Review

https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/0 ... -the-same/

The hipster effect: those who want to make anti-conformist statements end up looking almost identical to others who wish to make similar statements. I.e. the guy in skinny jeans and a tie dye shirt with blue hair who is vegan and loves the planet although he has yet to spend one solid day in the wilderness.

Although “tight-fitting jeans can cause urinary tract infections, twisted testicles, bladder weakness and long-term health consequences,” they continue to be a trend among ‘men’ who claim to belong to the counterculture. Not a counterculture I want to be a part of.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medica ... les/247826

We have evolved through natural selection to work in groups to survive. ‘Herd mentality,’ which is mocked today by all ends of the political spectrum, is subconsciously adopted by many on a daily basis, even when one believes he is rebelling against the norm.

The rise of social media has heightened this effect. When did you last make a decision that wasn’t influenced by a government, corporation, public figure, or something someone else was doing? If you defy a government, you are likely to join a group of individuals who think similarly. If you boycott a corporation, you are likely to take similar actions to others in circumventing it. If you hate a public figure, that sentiment likely came from something another person said.

Humans have a desire to feel special and unique, to feel that they offer something to the world that others can’t or don’t. But to what extent are you willing to go to prove your point, and will it end up harming you in the long run?

Let us put to rest the tired argument that one should or should not take an action because other people are or are not doing it. In the end, you are not special, and there are likely to be similar people who are taking an action for reasons similar to yours. Instead, judge it solely on the consequences it will have for your life and the life of those you will impact.
 
 

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Annoyed Liberall Aug 05, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 05, 2020 12:50am

Huey » 06 Aug 2020, 11:17 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2020, 11:17 am

skews13 » 06 Aug 2020, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2020, 11:10 am

New York’s attorney general is seeking to dissolve the National Rifle Association after an 18-month investigation found widespread fraud and abuse.Attorney General Letitia James claims in a lawsuit filed Thursday that her investigators found financial misconducted that contributed to a loss of more than $64 million over a three-year period, reported NPR.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/new-yo ... s-pile-up/

Seeking to dissolve...

Yes, seeking to dissolve, you know, like how the previous NY State AG dissolved Trump's charitable foundation.
 

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DennisTheMenace Aug 07, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 07, 2020 1:45am

Pengwin » 06 Aug 2020, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2020, 3:47 pm

Clear as a bell, the *** are stupid (but it's the Democrats that are racist).

That needs work, work on it.

OK, let's work on it!  Let's start with the fact that blacks have been voting roughly 90% or more for Democrats for over 50 years now, and in every election campaign, Democrats have promised them if elected, they will rise them out of poverty, bring them better schools, better and cheaper housing, higher paying jobs, and safer neighborhoods to raise their families.  
So blacks believe it and vote for Democrats. Now tell me which of those promises Democrats have kept in those 50 years?

Now, along comes candidate Donald J. Trump.  He points out those same facts in his campaigns in their cities, and says to the overwhelmingly black audiences, "What have you got to lose?" by trying something different?  Then as President, he quickly pulls MILLIONS of blacks out of poverty, stops unskilled illegal aliens from taking jobs that should be going to them, gives them a huge tax cut, and successfully lowers the unemployment rate to record low numbers in just a few years, something even black Obama was unable to accomplish!

You want the rest of us to believe blacks are intelligent?  OK, let's see them prove it in this coming election by giving a majority of their votes to the ONLY PRESIDENT WHO HAS DELIVERED ON HIS PROMISES IN OVER 50 YEARS!!!

How's that for getting me to "work on it"? 
 

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NeoConvict Aug 06, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 07, 2020 6:06am

duck615 » 07 Aug 2020, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2020, 7:56 pm

Yep you being the biggest loser in life here BV

You are notably notbright and flacking for the worst POTUS ever.

I'm feeling good.
 

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Coolguy10013 Aug 07, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 07, 2020 9:01pm

duck615 » 07 Aug 2020, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2020, 7:56 pm

Yep you being the biggest loser in life here BV

You are notably notbright and flacking for the worst POTUS ever.

I'm feeling good.
 

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Coolguy10013 Aug 07, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 07, 2020 9:01pm

Cedar » 07 Aug 2020, 9:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2020, 9:20 pm

Where is your evidence that the information about Biden is false?

Where is your evidence that you aren't a really ugly transvestite named Tiffany, who sucks sailor dick down on the docks for $5 a pop?

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Misty Aug 07, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 07, 2020 10:30pm

The very same Republican Party that for weeks stayed passively perched atop their own thumbs as COVID-19 killed tens of thousands suddenly discovered their capacity for outrage when college football conferences started making the inevitable decisions to cancel their seasons. “NO! MAKE UNPAID GLADIATOR KIDS FIGHT IN THE PLAGUE PIT FOR ME!” screeched Gym Jordan and a bunch of other raging, spittle-flecked, white dudes, honestly, I can’t tell any of them apart anymore.

 And I don’t know whether to be angry at the deeply warped priorities, or flabbergasted at the apparent inability to extrapolate. Like, how did this catch you off guard? It never occurred to a single rational human that college football could be played under these circumstances. If you wanted your precious television program, you had every opportunity to join the rest of us in all that mask-wearing, social-distancing, and sheltering-in-place we were up to while y’all were busy spreading disease in the name of freedumb.  Maybe if you get your **** together and stop being ****, we can have nice things again next year. It’s up to you.

Ibid.
 

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pedals&penguins Aug 12, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 12, 2020 9:42am

Yes Virginia, there are monsters… Once upon a time we told our children there are no monsters but now to save them we must tell them that monsters do exist and that they are very real living in our most powerful places to just down the block from our once thought of safe homes. We must have the talk that monsters are very real and we must guard always our safety, our freedom and our very lives. America under this administration is not safe and it does harbor ill will toward mankind who should be ever vigilant against its attack. This present government is the epitome of all ghost stories and horror films combined and much more. Our salvation from such monsters are our devotion and belief in our democracy and in our nation’s ability to be and do the right thing. Our children must know that there are monsters but they must also know they can defeat those monsters. We must guide our youth’s future and teach them how to fight and win against the very real monsters of this world. The very real Hitler’s, Trump’s, Mussolini’s, Putin’s, Kim Jong-un’s, Xi Jinping’s and Stalin’s of the world. I am reminded of #GoodTrouble and our very own blue #TheResistance
 
 

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JeanMoulin Aug 13, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 14, 2020 5:25am

I think one possible way of "Detrumpfying" America is too pass progressive policies that help all Americans and not just the ones at the top.

Another way I would suggest is to introduce everyone regardless of political party is Independent Media. I think one of the reasons that Trump is popular among republicans is because of the sole existence of news stations like Fox News that pumps the constant Trump propaganda.

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Older Guy Aug 14, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 12, 2020 7:51pm

That .ORG thread is hilarious.

Kfools: I give up
LucyIsHammered: You go girl.
Impartialobserver: place is dying
IGrateOnMen: Huh?
Bill: Let’s talk about how you **** up
Taipan: Hiccup
Z09: I miss dontlooknow
Mack: shun
Rippy: gulp
BlueDevil: I don’t like colored folk
 
 

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Phelix_Dacat Aug 16, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 16, 2020 3:48pm

Termin8tor » 13 Aug 2020, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2020, 3:02 pm

His own words prove you're a liar, psycho.

No big surprise there.

It is a felony to purposely delay the mail

 18 U.S. Code § 1703 

a) Whoever, being a Postal Service officer or employee, unlawfully secretes, destroys, detains, delays, or opens any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail entrusted to him or which shall come into his possession, and which was intended to be conveyed by mail, or carried or delivered by any carrier or other employee of the Postal Service, or forwarded through or delivered from any post office or station thereof established by authority of the Postmaster General or the Postal Service, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both

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JeanMoulin Aug 15, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 13, 2020 2:47pm

We can mobilize. Volunteers could work as carriers to bring your sealed ballot to polling places. Polling places could have sanitizing stations set up. Chairs and water can be provided at rest areas where there are long lines. If you're not afraid to go to Walmart, you can go to a polling place to vote. I'm not asking you to do the same, but I would go to the polls even if I knew that I was going to get the virus. I'm willing to die for the America I once knew. How many died to defeat a king? How many to defeat Hitler?

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Olivaw Aug 15, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 16, 2020 6:10pm

Olivaw » 16 Aug 2020, 6:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2020, 6:52 pm

Rock » 16 Aug 2020, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Aug 2020, 5:06 pm

I have a question for you.You seem like a reasonable person. Misguided but reasonable. Let's say that massive mail in voting is permitted in Nov. Not just absentee ballots which come with way more safeguards. But everyone who is registered to vote is mailed a ballot and then makes their selection and mails it back in. I don't know if you read some of my earlier posts but I am a retired letter carrier for the USPS and I can tell you unequivocally that many (not just a few) but many ballots will not be counted for reasons that I have posted earlier. 

So let's say the loser of the election, doesn't matter who, Biden or Trump, hears that possibly thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of votes never reached their destination. Either through undelivered mail, people stealing ballots, or postal workers not delivering ballots in a timely manner (believe me it happens). What happens next? Lawsuits. Courts involved. Supreme Court. It will be Florida hanging chads x 1000. 

Mark my words.

There are always errors in elections. It happens with in person voting and it will happen with mail in ballots. It seldom matter unless the margin of victory is < 0.02%.  Are you confident that safeguards cannot be implemented to maintain that normal margin of error? 

Envelopes will be preprinted and routed by machines. The process needs to be supervised by trustworthy individuals. Ballots need to be turned over to poll workers in bulk, Not treated like regular letters. 

One alternative, I suppose, is to allow people to drop their ballot in a secured slot and leave USPS out of it. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s time to build out the infrastructure.

Rock's experiences working in the USPS seem a lot different than mine.
He was a letter carrier in Kentucky and I worked in the three largest Post Offices/Mail processing facilities in Manhattan.

He probably delivered mail to individual private residences.
I worked in mail processing, in one facility that had 5,000 Postal employees.

These  mail in ballots are not likely to be delivered to elections offices by any one letter carrier. 
They will go through a bar code machine and be placed in trays in bulk.
Most likely the county elections offices will pick them up at the P.O. themselves like the big banks on Wall Street do.

When any one entity gets this much mail, it does not get delivered by a letter carrier.
The entity usually has to come to the Post Office to pick up their mail.
I worked at the call window in the PO across the street from the TwinTowers, where the big banks and brokerage houses would come and pick up their mail.


 Rock doesn't seem to have much faith in Postal Workers.
I have a lot of faith that Postal Workers are up to the job.
 
 

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Olivaw Aug 16, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 16, 2020 8:28pm

KFSW » 18 Aug 2020, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Aug 2020, 2:29 pm

lol....Shes a seasoned professional whore

yeah....she wore a Willie Brown man gravy necklace

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KFSW Aug 18, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 18, 2020 5:28pm

Olivaw » 17 Aug 2020, 6:27 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Aug 2020, 6:27 pm

I’m a fairly moderate / center-lefty so I’m comfortable with the list of speakers. Progressives may be disappointed.

Beau of the Fifth Column is a progressive. He has something to say about the “not so liberal” Democratic Convention lineup. As usual, he is thoughtful and articulate,

Thanks for the insightful video.

Because of universal Democratic agreement of the necessity of ousting Trump, Democrats are already united.  And those on the Far Left are just as determined as moderates, to replace Trump with Biden, so the their votes can be taken for granted.

That's why I think Beau is on target about the DNC strategy being to attract disaffected Trump voters.  But since Bernie Sanders will be one of the speakers tonight, I cannot fully accept the contention that the DNC has entirely abandoned the Left Wing of the Democratic Party. 

Neither am I convinced that a Biden administration will be as Conservative as Beau forecasts.  For instance, Biden has frequently expressed support for an energized, new labor union movement with the aim of increasing unionization, Nationwide.   If he comes through on that promise alone, he will have accomplished a lot.  Of course much of Biden's ability to affect real change will hinge on whether we can flip the Senate or not.
 
 
 

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Olivaw Aug 17, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 17, 2020 6:44pm

Misty » 19 Aug 2020, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Aug 2020, 12:51 pm

Brandishing a weapon is illegal in Missouri.

No, it isn't - not in defense of your own home.

I am going to say something to you, and you need to put on your I'm not retarded hat because it's heavy:

A RESIDENTIAL FRONT LAWN IS NOT A LEGITIMATE PROTEST LOCATION - AND NEITHER IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, UNLESS A PERMIT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED AND POLICE PRESENCE ASSURED ALONG THE PARADE ROUTE.

Now, you can **** and lie about what you would do and dither in the face of reality, or you can put your adult panties on.

Choose
 

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Cannonpointer Aug 18, 2020

Go to original post on Aug 19, 2020 1:06pm