Looks like we need knife control

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By Huey
14 Oct 2020 7:57 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 12:55 pm » wrote: Todays weapons that you purchase in gun store or online don't have to be redesigned.  They purpose built SPECIFICALLY for civilians.  Just as the COLT sporter was in 64

No...I remember someone telling me that the AR-15 Sporting Item was "heavily redesigned"...a wee, little fella he was....


wait...

hold on....


IT WAS YOU!
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 3:42 pm » wrote: because assault weapons is a subset of rifle label

IT could also fall under "unspecified" if no record was made of whatever delivered the fatal shot...
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:47 pm » wrote: No...I remember someone telling me that the AR-15 Sporting Item was "heavily redesigned"...a wee, little fella he was....

wait...

hold on....

IT WAS YOU!
That is not all that was said.  But, your own source said you are wrong.  

carry on
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Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 3:49 pm » wrote: That is not all that was said.  But, your own source said you are wrong.  

carry on

uhhhh...no....
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:49 pm » wrote: IT could also fall under "unspecified" if no record was made of whatever delivered the fatal shot...

do you have some reason to presume that 'unspevified' heavily skews towards assault weapons? Cause actually it would seem the opposite. If someone is killed by a .223 its pretty distinctive
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 3:51 pm » wrote: do you have some reason to presume that 'unspevified' heavily skews towards assault weapons? Cause actually it would seem the opposite. If someone is killed by a .223 its pretty distinctive

Why is that of any relevance?

But since you're feeling chatty....let's make the issue the number of people killed per "episode"...


How is that Sporting Implement vs. Melonballer "argument" looking now?
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:54 pm » wrote: Why is that of any relevance?

But since you're feeling chatty....let's make the issue the number of people killed per "episode"...

How is that Sporting Implement vs. Melonballer "argument" looking now?

why is it so complicated for you to just learn that very few people are killed by an ar15?
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 3:56 pm » wrote: why is it so complicated for you to just learn that very few people are killed by an ar15?
We will find out....

In each instance an AR 15 style weapon is used in a shooting how few people are killed, on average?
 
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:54 pm » wrote: Why is that of any relevance?

But since you're feeling chatty....let's make the issue the number of people killed per "episode"...

How is that Sporting Implement vs. Melonballer "argument" looking now?

like seriously...this is how you guys are arguing. Its all whatabboutism. Some fact doesnt support your world view so you just want to talk about something else.
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Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 12:52 pm » wrote:
Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 12:49 pm » wrote: You know, 37X, I can't help noticing your habit of shameful projection.

https://www.80percentarms.com/blog/ar15 ... ifference/
So what’s exactly the difference between the M16 or AR15? There’s a lot of misinformation out there, or just information that has been repeated so often that it’s taken as fact. The easiest way to look at it is this: Every M16 is an AR15, but not all AR15s are an M16.Many people will tell you that an AR15 is semi-auto only, and the M16 is full-auto. While this may help for differentiating between the two for civilian purposes, this isn’t at all true. The original AR15 (before it picked up a military name) was fully-automatic, as well as plenty since then. And what most people don’t realize, is that the military has also tested semi-automatic M16s as well, which later earned designations as the famed Mk12 Mod 0.

Thanks.  

 
 
Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:51 pm » wrote:
Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 3:49 pm » wrote: That is not all that was said.  But, your own source said you are wrong.  

carry on

uhhhh...no....

 
I suggest you read the entire post.
Carry on.  The Sporter was not a battlefield weapon nor are the variants sold today.  Hell, when pressed, you refuse to discuss function.  The reason is you don't know about function and you know if you do you will really get curbstomped.

Tell you what.  If you can tell me what function of a semi auto sports weapon makes it the same as the military weapon you have made your point.  You must show me the atuo selector position on both, or the burst selector position on today's weapons.  You must show me that they both have the same lower receiver, same bolt assembly, barrel, thoat, and gas operation.

You do that and you win.  If not, just stop  
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 3:57 pm » wrote: like seriously...this is how you guys are arguing. Its all whatabboutism. Some fact doesnt support your world view so you just want to talk about something else.

How is that talking about something else?

It was assault rifles vs. edged objects...
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:59 pm » wrote: How is that talking about something else?

It was assault rifles vs. edged objects...

not assault rifles. that is a mroe specific and clearly defined category. Very few people own an assault rifle
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 3:51 pm » wrote: do you have some reason to presume that 'unspevified' heavily skews towards assault weapons?
LOLOL. Just look at you dance away from your *******, busted propaganda lie!!
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:59 pm » wrote: How is that talking about something else?

It was assault rifles vs. edged objects...

lets start over. all of this seems to be going way over your head. You know all those 'scary' looking rifles that liberals want to ban? and they call them 'assault weapons'? they actually are very rarely used in crime and there are very few homocides per year. The comparison with knives was just for perspective on how very rare 'scary rifle' homicides are. You seem to be hung up on hueys choice for that comparison but i dont know why. He couldve compared scary rifle homocide to lightning strikes i guess.
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Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 3:58 pm » wrote:
I suggest you read the entire post.
Carry on.  The Sporter was not a battlefield weapon nor are the variants sold today.  Hell, when pressed, you refuse to discuss function.  The reason is you don't know about function and you know if you do you will really get curbstomped.

Tell you what.  If you can tell me what function of a semi auto sports weapon makes it the same as the military weapon you have made your point.  You must show me the atuo selector position on both, or the burst selector position on today's weapons.  You must show me that they both have the same lower receiver, same bolt assembly, barrel, thoat, and gas operation.

You do that and you win.  If not, just stop
The most noticeable difference is that the civilian AR15 lower receiver does not have the third trigger pin hole for the auto sear above the safety selector. The trigger pocket is also typically milled to different dimensions to prevent the acceptance of an auto-sear as well. However, this is not a rule. Many companies still sell their lowers with M16 trigger pocket dimensions, they are just missing the proverbial "third-hole".Drilling that third hole is what legally changes your AR-15 from a semi-automatic rifle, into an illegal machine gun.


ibid.
Hell, when pressed, you refuse to discuss function.
I decline to discuss reframe...
Tell you what.  If you can tell me
Stop "telling" me things, coward...
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 3:59 pm » wrote: How is that talking about something else?

It was assault rifles vs. edged objects...
No, semi automatic sports rifles vs knives and cutting objects.
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FOS » 14 Oct 2020, 4:02 pm » wrote: lets start over. all of this seems to be going way over your head. You know all those 'scary' looking rifles that liberals want to ban? and they call them 'assault weapons'? they actually are very rarely used in crime and there are very few homocides per year. The comparison with knives was just for perspective on how very rare 'scary rifle' homicides are. You seem to be hung up on hueys choice for that comparison but i dont know why. He couldve compared scary rifle homocide to lightning strikes i guess.
lets start over. all of this seems to be going way over your head. 
Hey, Whitefeather...

Answer the **** question...
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Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 4:05 pm » wrote: No, semi automatic sports rifles vs knives and cutting objects.

If you want to be that LITERAL....


**** idiot...
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 4:07 pm » wrote: If you want to be that LITERAL....

**** idiot...
Well, that was the whole basis for his deceitful propaganda.
Misrepresent and lie about "statistics".
His lie was supposed to be SO CLEVER - and now we've gone and RUINED it!  Waaah!


 
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 4:05 pm » wrote: Hey, Whitefeather...

Answer the **** question...

what question?
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