Looks like we need knife control

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By Huey
14 Oct 2020 7:57 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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15 Oct 2020 2:06 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 2:04 pm » wrote: No, it isn't...

I guess you can apologize for asserting "victory".

So you don't support a ban of these weapons.  Who knew.  I will chalk you up as one who will defend the right of responsible citizens to own semi automatic sports rifles that look military but do not function the same.  

Thanks!
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15 Oct 2020 2:07 pm
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 2:06 pm » wrote: So you don't support a ban of these weapons.  Who knew.  I will chalk you up as one who will defend the right of responsible citizens to own semi automatic sports rifles that look military but do not function the same.  

Thanks!
So you don't support a ban of these weapons
I certainly do, ****...
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15 Oct 2020 2:11 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 2:07 pm » wrote: I certainly do, ****...
Ok, my point stands.

Back to functionality.  Show that they function the same as weapon specifically designed for battle field use.  Show me where the selector position for auto or burst is first off.  Then where the lower is the same, the sear, etc.  And the cyclic rate of fire.

But, you should be happy to learn that today's weapons designed for battlefield, in the context of the discussion,  ARE banned from sale to the public.  Anything manufactured AFTER 86 is banned.

So not sure what you want banned.  
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 2:11 pm » wrote: Ok, my point stands.

Back to functionality.  Show that they function the same as weapon specifically designed for battle field use.  Show me where the selector position for auto or burst is first off.  Then where the lower is the same, the sear, etc.  And the cyclic rate of fire.

But, you should be happy to learn that today's weapons designed for battlefield, in the context of the discussion,  ARE banned from sale to the public.  Anything manufactured AFTER 86 is banned.

So not sure what you want banned.
Ok, my point stands.
Which point is that,

That I favor their banning

Or

That I do so because they are scary looking

?


You understand these two propositions are different, right?
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15 Oct 2020 2:20 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 2:14 pm » wrote: Which point is that,

That I favor their banning

Or

That I do so because they are scary looking

?

You understand these two propositions are different, right?

I can only assume since you want a weapon that is designed specifically for civilian banned is because it looks scary.  You refuse to post any reason based on function they should be banned.  The weapons you buy in the store are not designed for military use.  Those are already banned.  So present an argument. 

And support it.
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 9:31 am » wrote: Ask around and see if anyone gives a **** what you think, Vag....

I do.
Please seat yourself.

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I like the very things you hate.
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15 Oct 2020 3:03 pm
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Blackvegetable » 14 Oct 2020, 9:31 am » wrote: Ask around and see if anyone gives a **** what you think, Vag....
I do.  And when YOU actually discuss a topic I care what you think.  But it is rare you actually do without putting on the Askhole act.
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 2:20 pm » wrote: I can only assume since you want a weapon that is designed specifically for civilian banned is because it looks scary.  You refuse to post any reason based on function they should be banned.  The weapons you buy in the store are not designed for military use.  Those are already banned.  So present an argument. 

And support it.
I can only assume since you want a weapon that is designed specifically for civilian banned is because it looks scary.
For what - do your citations CONSISTENTLY state - were these weapons designed and developed?
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15 Oct 2020 3:38 pm
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 3:03 pm » wrote: I do.  And when YOU actually discuss a topic I care what you think.  But it is rare you actually do without putting on the Askhole act.
The OP compares the total number of deaths resulting from knifeplay with those resulting from Rambocosplay...

What is the per instance number for each modality?
 
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15 Oct 2020 3:41 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 3:28 pm » wrote: For what - do your citations CONSISTENTLY state - were these weapons designed and developed?
What year weapons?

Nope, my sources do not consistently state that.  What they state is the semi auto sport rifles is specifically designed, manufactured and sold to civilians.  

Again, we return to the functionality question you are so afraid to address.  The weapons you fear are already banned OR if manufactured before 1986 SEVERELY restricted.
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 3:38 pm » wrote: The OP compares the total number of deaths resulting from knifeplay with those resulting from Rambocosplay...

What is the per instance number for each modality?
I am sure if you wish to make a point as you run from your obvious defeat you can post it. I am not here to chase the internet for you points.

Now, about functionality?  Ready to discuss it?
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15 Oct 2020 3:45 pm
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 3:42 pm » wrote: I am sure if you wish to make a point as you run from your obvious defeat you can post it. I am not here to chase the internet for you points.

Now, about functionality?  Ready to discuss it?
At no point does the OP touch on functionality...

It does touch on deaths resulting from the two terminal events.

Please try to contain yourself to the OP.
 
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 3:41 pm » wrote: What year weapons?

Nope, my sources do not consistently state that.  What they state is the semi auto sport rifles is specifically designed, manufactured and sold to civilians.  

Again, we return to the functionality question you are so afraid to address.  The weapons you fear are already banned OR if manufactured before 1986 SEVERELY restricted.
Show me "specifically designed for"...
Again, we return to the functionality question you are so afraid to address. 
Why do we return here?

Why am I obliged to address it?

I don't see it mentioned in the OP..
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15 Oct 2020 3:48 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 3:45 pm » wrote: At no point does the OP touch on functionality...

It does touch on deaths resulting from the two terminal events.

Please try to contain yourself to the OP.
Oh no.  It is too late for you to run from the multiple pages of thread creep that you participated.

Remember, to quote you, this is MY THREAD.  You went down that road, lost, and now running from it.  I nailed you about this a while back.

I am more than happy to discuss your new found interest in the OP when you bring facts, citations and make a point.
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15 Oct 2020 3:50 pm
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 3:47 pm » wrote: Show me "specifically designed for"...

Why do we return here?

Why am I obliged to address it?

I don't see it mentioned in the OP..

I have shown you specifically designed for in the past.  Not doing it again.  Even the COlt sporter was.

With that said your argument is these weapons were specifically designed for the battlefield.  Well, if they did, you should be able to show me the functions I mentioned on a store bought semi auto sports rifle.  If you can't, they were not designed for the battlefield.
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Huey » 15 Oct 2020, 3:50 pm » wrote: I have shown you specifically designed for in the past.  Not doing it again.  Even the COlt sporter was.

With that said your argument is these weapons were specifically designed for the battlefield.  Well, if they did, you should be able to show me the functions I mentioned on a store bought semi auto sports rifle.  If you can't, they were not designed for the battlefield.
Wow....more assertions..
With that said your argument is these weapons were specifically designed for the battlefield.  Well, if they did, you should be able to show me the functions I mentioned on a store bought semi auto sports rifle.  If you can't, they were not designed for the battlefield.
No....that is completely wrong..

What I have to show you is credible citations supporting my argument...

But your idiocy doesn't just break down there...
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 7:13 pm » wrote: Wow....more assertions..

No....that is completely wrong..

What I have to show you is credible citations supporting my argument...

But your idiocy doesn't just break down there...
Look I assume you want the ar15 banned. But I kinda assume that the only reason you want that is because political pundits have told you that you should want it. I doubt they explained why and I doubt you can't articulate why.

What specifically about the ar15 makes you think it should be banned?

Are you okay with police using the ar15? Military? Who should it be restricted to, then? Why?
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15 Oct 2020 8:10 pm
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FOS » 15 Oct 2020, 7:34 pm » wrote: Look I assume you want the ar15 banned. But I kinda assume that the only reason you want that is because political pundits have told you that you should want it. I doubt they explained why and I doubt you can't articulate why.

What specifically about the ar15 makes you think it should be banned?

Are you okay with police using the ar15? Military? Who should it be restricted to, then? Why?
Is there anything in it for me?
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Blackvegetable » 15 Oct 2020, 8:10 pm » wrote: Is there anything in it for me?
Well since my assumptions were correct, no. You are just parroting opinions you were told to have by other people. Your attempt to answer my questions would only prove it. You should probably follow mark twain advice.
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FOS » 15 Oct 2020, 8:12 pm » wrote: Well since my assumptions were correct, no. You are just parroting opinions you were told to have by other people. Your attempt to answer my questions would only prove it. You should probably follow mark twain advice.
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