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Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 4:35 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 4:35 am

what capabilities of the AR 15 Semi Auto make it a weapon designed for battlefield?

Just read the citation..

They make clear the distinction between 


DESIGN


and


VARIANT..


You'll learn a lot.
 

Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 4:26 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 4:26 am

Keep dodging.

Looks like another dodge.

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 7:43 am

Since it undeniably does, let's kick back for some word games

So it DOES.

Fancy that..

And what, exactly is it a list of?
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This article describes the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family of weapons produced by Colt's Manufacturing Company. Weapons patterned on the original ArmaLite AR-15 design have been produced by numerous manufacturers and have been used by nations around the world, some of which created their own variations. The tables here are split in a variety of categories, and provide an overview of different subtypes. 

That seems quite clear...

No sir, does not show up on the list of Military Models.  It shows up on the list of Colt civilian models.  Scroll down until you see it.

There are TWO separate and distinct lists.

One list is Colt military models with auto and burst. The list of weapons designed for combat.  The AR 15 semiautomatic is not on that list.  The other list is Colt civilian models.  That is where the AR 15 semi automatic appears that was designed for civilian.  You will not find a single weapon on that list that has burst or auto mode.  

Although you did not intend to you have FINALLY answered the question about what capabilities does the AR 15 semiautomatic share with the M16.  The answer is NONE.  

Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:26 am

No sir, does not show up on the list of Military Models.  It shows up on the list of Colt civilian models.  Scroll down until you see it.

There are TWO separate and distinct lists.

One list is Colt military models with auto and burst. The list of weapons designed for combat.  The AR 15 semiautomatic is not on that list.  The other list is Colt civilian models.  That is where the AR 15 semi automatic appears that was designed for civilian.  You will not find a single weapon on that list that has burst or auto mode.  

Although you did not intend to you have FINALLY answered the question about what capabilities does the AR 15 semiautomatic share with the M16.  The answer is NONE.

Dwarf,

It's listed as a variant..

Period.


End of story..


Game, Set, Match...
 

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 8:29 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:29 am

Dwarf,

It's listed as a variant..

Period.

End of story..

Game, Set, Match...

Variant
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.

Additionally, the title of the article is List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.  Two separate entities.  You then have a list of Colt M16 rifle based weapons.  That is the title of that section.  Those are your M 16 variants.  The Semi Auto AR 15 is not on that list. 

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

And you showed that both those weapons share no functions and capabilities that make the AR 15 a battlefield weapon.  Thanks playing.  You keep believing idiot politicians and MSM members.  

Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:38 am

Variant
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.

Additionally, the title of the article is List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.  Two separate entities.  You then have a list of Colt M16 rifle based weapons.  That is the title of that section.  Those are your M 16 variants.  The Semi Auto AR 15 is not on that list. 

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

And you showed that both those weapons share no functions and capabilities that make the AR 15 a battlefield weapon.  Thanks playing.  You keep believing idiot politicians and MSM members.

Dwarf,

You aren't qualified to get etymological.

Variant has a specific meaning in this context....it's a "term of art"..

And we're done here..
 

One last thing. From the article explaining how to differentiate models used by the US military or previously used:

bold model numbers are weapons used (or previously used) by the U.S. Military

You will not find a bold model number on the civilian list. Happy hunting!
@Blackvegetable  

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:43 am

Dwarf,

You aren't qualified to get etymological.

Variant has a specific meaning in this context....it's a "term of art"..

And we're done here..

Yes, you lost with your own source.  Don't EVER enter this type of discussion again.

Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:44 am

Yes, you lost with your own source.  Don't EVER enter this type of discussion again.

Explain how?

Because it shows up on the list of variants?
 

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 8:58 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 8:58 am

Explain how?

Because it shows up on the list of variants?

Variant
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.

Additionally, the title of the article is List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.  Two separate entities.  You then have a list of Colt M16 rifle based weapons.  That is the title of that section.  Those are your M 16 variants.  The Semi Auto AR 15 is not on that list. 

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

And you showed that both those weapons share no functions and capabilities that make the AR 15 a battlefield weapon.  Thanks playing.  You keep believing idiot politicians and MSM members.

Huey » 19 Oct 2020, 9:08 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 9:08 am

Variant
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.

Additionally, the title of the article is List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.  Two separate entities.  You then have a list of Colt M16 rifle based weapons.  That is the title of that section.  Those are your M 16 variants.  The Semi Auto AR 15 is not on that list. 

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

And you showed that both those weapons share no functions and capabilities that make the AR 15 a battlefield weapon.  Thanks playing.  You keep believing idiot politicians and MSM members.

Additionally, the title of the article is List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants.  Two separate entities.  You then have a list of Colt M16 rifle based weapons.  That is the title of that section.  Those are your M 16 variants.  The Semi Auto AR 15 is not on that list. 

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  


 the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family


Do you see the word "family"?

That is the SINGULAR form, Verbal...


​​​​​​​Word Gaming Imbecile...



 

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 9:14 am

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

 the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family

Do you see the word "family"?

That is the SINGULAR form, Verbal...

Word Gaming Imbecile...

Temper, temper.  You need to get away from word gaming an get to function, design, and capabilities.  

1.  Please explain what capabilities and parts that the AR 15 semi auto and the M 16 share.

2.  You have also dodged the part where I pointed out NOT ONE AR 15 semi auto variant was used by the US Military.  Your own source shows that.

3.  You have also dodged the part where on the M 16 list of variants there is not one semi auto only on that list.

4.  You have also dodged the part that on the AR 15 semi auto list there is not one weapon capable of auto or burst mode.  

YOU stop with the word gaming and get to what each weapons does.  There is not a single "mode", function, or capability of the AR 15 that makes it a combat weapon.  If I am wrong please point out specifically  a "mode", function, or capability of the AR 15 that makes it a combat weapon. 

Blackvegetable » 19 Oct 2020, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

19 Oct 2020, 9:14 am

Next you have another subsection of the article with the title Colt civilian models.  Those are the AR 15 variants.  No M 16 on that list.  If one was the variant of the other and had the same capabilities and function there would be no need for two lists.  You lost.  They would all be listed together.  

 the many variations of the Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle family

Do you see the word "family"?

That is the SINGULAR form, Verbal...

​​​​​​​Word Gaming Imbecile...

So basically the m16 and the ar15 often attend the same weddings.

Blackvegetable » 16 Oct 2020, 8:06 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2020, 8:06 am

Stop lying...

When The Handmaid Hammer, Kyle Rittenhouse looked to scratch his itch, do you think he bought on the basis of its "functionality" or his fetish?

Kyle Rittenhouse's weapon was not designed for the battlefield.  ANd it appears here you are wanting it banned because of how it looks.  

GOD the STUPIDITY of htis ignorant talking point. Guns will kill about 30,000 people in the US this year. They are responsible for mass killings where TEN and more people are killed every coupld of years hitting 50 sometimes when KNIVES do that we can talk about kinfe control till then it is such an IGNORANT and CHILDISH argument that anyone making it SHOULD be embarrassed for their stupidity

Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 7:57 am » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2020, 7:57 am

According to the UCR, 1,476 victims were murdered with “knives or cutting instruments,” whereas 364 people were killed with rifles, including the vague category of “assault rifles.”

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-8.xls

Knife crime rife in the UK.

Sometimes machetes.

Huey » 14 Oct 2020, 7:57 am » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2020, 7:57 am

According to the UCR, 1,476 victims were murdered with “knives or cutting instruments,” whereas 364 people were killed with rifles, including the vague category of “assault rifles.”

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-8.xls

We need gravity control too. That ****'s everywhere.

The ABJECT STUPIDITY of TreasonMonkeys is just astonishing to see. The CHiLDISH STUPIDITY of what they think is clever is jsst an embarrassment to our entiere species

Famagusta » 22 Apr 2021, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2021, 2:36 pm

Knife crime rife in the UK.

Sometimes machetes.

I have heard that.

Huey » 22 Apr 2021, 2:30 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2021, 2:30 pm

Kyle Rittenhouse's weapon was not designed for the battlefield.  ANd it appears here you are wanting it banned because of how it looks.

Dwarf,

We have established that the Colt AR 15 style is a semiauto variant of the M16..

You can stop this now.


We also know dammned well what I say about the reason it sells is true...this has NOTHING to do with fear of its look.


Nod.